Okay, I am an artist who is uploading to this website and I flagged a post because I posted it too early and it got deleted. When the appropriate day to upload came (today as I am writing this), it won't let me upload as it is a duplicate of the deleted image before https://e621.net/posts/3242497 I want to upload that image now but it won't let me. Is there a way to undo a deletion?

Cody Mathews

codymathews said:
Okay, I am an artist who is uploading to this website and I flagged a post because I posted it too early and it got deleted. When the appropriate day to upload came (today as I am writing this), it won't let me upload as it is a duplicate of the deleted image before https://e621.net/posts/3242497 I want to upload that image now but it won't let me. Is there a way to undo a deletion?

Cody Mathews

There is a reason why you are not allowed to reupload deleted content. This is to prevent people from abusing the system and re-uploading an artwork that had already been deleted.

If you would like to reverse the deletion, contact the moderator responsible for the deletion of your post (i.e., @Mairo) and ask them politely to restore it.

You have to DM a member of staff and ask for the post to be undeleted. The user who deleted it is usually a good place to start, which in this case is Mairo.

thegreatwolfgang said:
There is a reason why you are not allowed to reupload deleted content. This is to prevent people from abusing the system and re-uploading an artwork that had already been deleted.

If you would like to reverse the deletion, contact the moderator responsible for the deletion of your post (i.e., @Mairo) and ask them politely to restore it.

Considering the actual deletion reason is "Paysite/commercial content", there won't be any issues when the art is uploaded again once it is released to public. Only make sure it isn't exactly the same file (with the same MD5 checksum).

ebea57 said:
Considering the actual deletion reason is "Paysite/commercial content", there won't be any issues when the art is uploaded again once it is released to public. Only make sure it isn't exactly the same file (with the same MD5 checksum).

Never re-upload previously deleted content, even if it was paysite and is now free. If it's now public, you can contact the moderator that deleted it (or the head admin, NotMeNotYou) and provide a link to the now-public image, or verify you are the artist and are okay with the image being here, and they can undelete it.

The only reason to upload the image again is if it's actually a different version (smaller res, watermark added/removed, etc). But even then, a moderator can replace the image in the original post with the updated public one, which may be the preferred method.

ebea57 said:
Considering the actual deletion reason is "Paysite/commercial content", there won't be any issues when the art is uploaded again once it is released to public. Only make sure it isn't exactly the same file (with the same MD5 checksum).

No, manipulating/altering the MD5 to circumvent deletion is not allowed. You will still need to refer to the original post and have it restored.
It was marked as "Paysite/commercial content" because all the original public sources were deleted, except for the one from Patreon.

watsit said:
Never re-upload previously deleted content, even if it was paysite and is now free. If it's now public, you can contact the moderator that deleted it (or the head admin, NotMeNotYou) and provide a link to the now-public image, or verify you are the artist and are okay with the image being here, and they can undelete it.

The only reason to upload the image again is if it's actually a different version (smaller res, watermark added/removed, etc). But even then, a moderator can replace the image in the original post with the updated public one, which may be the preferred method.

thegreatwolfgang said:
No, manipulating/altering the MD5 to circumvent deletion is not allowed. You will still need to refer to the original post and have it restored.
It was marked as "Paysite/commercial content" because all the original public sources were deleted, except for the one from Patreon.

I hate to break it to you but reuploading previously deleted paysite content happens all the time and e6 moderators doesn't mind this. It's just in most cases, MD5 is different from the previously deleted post, so the problem like the OP has is rare.

With your logic, the artist can't post here their own, just released art, because a year earlier someone stolen and already uploaded this art which was then deleted? And now the artist must contact the moderator and ask to undelete the unauthorized post? Not to mention no one even notice their art that was posted a year ago. Seems like a great deal. This will definitely encourage artists to post their work here.

Another example. Artist who is conditionally DNP and has exclusive permission to post. Some other user breaks this rule and posts their artwork anyway. The post is then deleted. Some time later the artist want to post this art here. What they need to do? The previously deleted post can't be restored because it was uploaded by someone else and doing this would break the rule.

As you can see, enforcing the rule on "uploading previously deleted content" not always make sense, especially when the initial post broke the site rule that is not applicable to current circumstances.

ebea57 said:
I hate to break it to you but reuploading previously deleted paysite content happens all the time and e6 moderators doesn't mind this. It's just in most cases, MD5 is different from the previously deleted post, so the problem like the OP has is rare.

Uploading guidelines say:

Bad things to upload:

...

• Previously deleted content.

No "unless ...", no "except if ...", no qualifications of any kind. Previously deleted content is a bad thing to upload. If you feel that it's better to upload a new post for some reason, you're best off asking an admin and getting permission that way. But without permission from mods/admins, do not re-upload previously deleted content.

Just because "it happens all the time" doesn't make it good or okay to do anyway. That's the same argument people make when complaining about the creepy comments rule.

ebea57 said:
With your logic, the artist can't post here their own, just released art, because a year earlier someone stolen and already uploaded this art which was then deleted? And now the artist must contact the moderator and ask to undelete the unauthorized post? Not to mention no one even notice their art that was posted a year ago. Seems like a great deal. This will definitely encourage artists to post their work here.

It's best not to make a blanket exception like that. Don't forget, anyone can come here and claim to be anyone they want. If an artist doesn't have their artist tag associated with their e6 account, we can't even be sure it's actually them and not someone else trying to pirate it again. While I agree that having an old post from months or a year ago restored that's unlikely to be seen wouldn't be good, it's still best to ask an admin first instead of just posting it again.

ebea57 said:
With your logic, the artist can't post here their own, just released art, because a year earlier someone stolen and already uploaded this art which was then deleted? And now the artist must contact the moderator and ask to undelete the unauthorized post?

I hate to break it to you but that is in fact exactly how it works.

ebea57 said:
With your logic, the artist can't post here their own, just released art, because a year earlier someone stolen and already uploaded this art which was then deleted? And now the artist must contact the moderator and ask to undelete the unauthorized post? Not to mention no one even notice their art that was posted a year ago. Seems like a great deal. This will definitely encourage artists to post their work here.

Actually yes, leaked commercial content will remain deleted up until the point it gets released by the artist publicly, provided that it is the exact same image that gets released.
As a matter of fact, we discourage the idea of taking down a post so that the exact same post may be reposted again by the artist/commissioner/copyright holder themselves.

The artist should ask for the original post to be undeleted, even if it was posted by someone else without their permission.
All credits will still go to the artist regardless, since we no longer display the uploader's name on posts anymore.

Another example. Artist who is conditionally DNP and has exclusive permission to post. Some other user breaks this rule and posts their artwork anyway. The post is then deleted. Some time later the artist want to post this art here. What they need to do? The previously deleted post can't be restored because it was uploaded by someone else and doing this would break the rule.

As you can see, enforcing the rule on "uploading previously deleted content" not always make sense, especially when the initial post broke the site rule that is not applicable to current circumstances.

I have not seen this specific scenario happen on the site before, but I believe the artist themselves (and them alone) will still need to ask for the admins to restore the posts.
This will, in a sense, mean that they have made an exception to their own CNP rule and allow for this one post to be "posted by someone else".
Of course, the uploader in question would have been slapped for posting DNP content, so there won't be an incentive to break the rules again in the future.

wat8548 said:
I hate to break it to you but that is in fact exactly how it works.

If the content that was uploaded year ago as paid material is now being released freely and it's identical file, we still restore the previous post, new uploads get deleted as inferior and/or previously deleted. Somewhat situation dependant, sometimes websites alter the MD5 by defaul so even if content is 1:1 identical it can be posted, but especially if first party directly is posting this is rarely the case.

This is one reason why I'm relatively huge fan of artists who clearly mark their patron only content and freely released versions with relevant watermarks like that, because it not only makes it clear to regular viewer if they are viewing pirated content and also it does alter MD5 hash so leakers don't get any satisfaction of having content on their account they stole.