Topic: [REJECTED] hand_on_own_(anatomy) to holding_(anatomy) tags (pt 1)

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #2570 has been rejected.

remove alias hand_on_own_ass (0) -> hand_on_own_butt (3058)
create alias hand_on_own_ankle (107) -> holding_ankle (294)
create alias hand_on_own_arm (369) -> holding_arm (2390)
create alias hand_on_own_back (9) -> holding_back (112)
create alias hand_on_own_balls (226) -> holding_balls (2331)
create alias hand_on_own_bell (0) -> holding_belly (4043)
create alias hand_on_own_belly (2413) -> holding_belly (4043)
create alias hand_on_own_body (3) -> holding_torso (48)
create alias hand_on_own_bulge (7) -> holding_bulge (556)
create alias hand_on_own_beak (3) -> holding_beak (0)
create alias hand_on_own_calf (205) -> holding_calf (203)
create alias hand_on_own_cheek (149) -> holding_cheek (99)
create alias hand_on_own_chest (325) -> holding_chest (194)
create alias hand_on_own_chin (77) -> holding_chin (468)
create alias hand_on_own_crotch (88) -> holding_crotch (665)
create alias hand_on_own_ear (34) -> holding_ear (193)
create alias hand_on_own_ears (3) -> holding_ears (0)
create alias hand_on_own_elbow (61) -> holding_elbow (73)
create alias hand_on_own_face (546) -> holding_face (873)
create alias hand_on_own_forearm (53) -> holding_forearm (54)
create alias hand_on_own_forearms (0) -> holding_forearms (3)
create alias hand_on_own_forehead (14) -> holding_forehead (4)
create alias hand_on_own_genitalia (20) -> holding_genitalia (0)
create alias hand_on_own_head (339) -> holding_head (3618)
create alias hand_on_own_hip (3265) -> holding_hip (67)

Reason: The "hand_on_own_" tags have been awkward and it's taken me a while to wrap my head around them and how to go about fixing them, but I think they largely are equivalent and wordier than the holding tags, or similar enough that we shouldn't really need them to be separate tags. Holding tags are essentially grabbing tags, but with oneself rather than another. There were a number of exceptions here that I think I've handled decently, like hand_on_own_mouth or hand_on_own_body which I think they would be worded differently as you don't typically "hold" a mouth so much as cover it. I considered the same for ears, but you can hold ears. There's a lot of anatomy that hasn't had "hand_on_own_" tags added yet, but I think the aliases should be put in place as these tags seem to crop up fairly often and it's tricky for people to word these sorts of tags consisently in the first place. I might have missed a number of things, but this is what I've come up with so far.

The unalias hand_on_own_ass bit is so that both can then be aliased to holding_butt

I don't know how to handle pussy tags. Maybe hand_on_own_pussy is the best way to tag it.

Update: I just figured out how to do multiple BUR in the same thread, but not before I created a second thread. Part 2 is here: https://e621.net/forum_topics/33952
Part 3 is below in the replies.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2570 (forum #336299) has been rejected by @Rainbow_Dash.

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I think this should be the other way around, perhaps. The holding_* tags can be easily confused for *_grab, since the tag name doesn't indicate who is holding the thing. hand_on_own_* makes it clearer that it means its the person themself holding/putting their hand on the thing. It also mirrors tags like cum_on_own_*.

The bulk update request #2572 has been rejected.

create alias hand_on_own_feet (1) -> holding_feet (602)
create alias hand_on_own_hand (47) -> hands_together (3308)
create alias hand_on_own_antennae (0) -> holding_antennae (4)
create alias hand_on_own_antlers (0) -> holding_antlers (4)
create alias hand_on_own_fin (0) -> holding_fin (0)
create alias hand_on_own_foreskin (0) -> holding_foreskin (13)
create alias hand_on_own_frill (0) -> holding_frill (0)
create alias hand_on_own_glans (2) -> holding_glans (1)
create alias hand_on_own_horn (0) -> holding_horn (294)
create alias hand_on_own_mouth (40) -> covering_mouth (3186)
create alias hand_on_own_nose (0) -> holding_nose (114)
create alias hand_on_own_tendril (0) -> holding_tendril (0)
create alias hand_on_own_tentacle (1) -> holding_tentacle (116)
create implication holding_foreskin (13) -> holding_penis (22051)
create implication holding_glans (1) -> holding_penis (22051)
create implication holding_penis (22051) -> holding_genitalia (0)
create implication holding_balls (2331) -> holding_genitalia (0)

Reason: Additional BUR for the thread - Bringing the hand_on_own tags and holding_ tags together as they are largely synonymous

EDIT: The bulk update request #2572 (forum #336303) has been rejected by @Rainbow_Dash.

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watsit said:
I think this should be the other way around, perhaps. The holding_* tags can be easily confused for *_grab, since the tag name doesn't indicate who is holding the thing. hand_on_own_* makes it clearer that it means its the person themself holding/putting their hand on the thing. It also mirrors tags like cum_on_own_*.

I think this actually could make sense. I was thinking hand_on_own_ is too bulky, but holding_ is largely ambiguous so I think people gravitate to making hand_on_own_ tags instead. One way or another, I think there should be one set of tags to describe this in images rather than the two we have.

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