The bulk update request #2707 is active.

create implication internal_anal (4509) -> internal (74324)
create implication internal_vaginal (11591) -> internal (74324)
create implication internal_oral (2670) -> internal (74324)
create implication internal_cloacal (39) -> internal (74324)
create implication internal_sheath (59) -> internal (74324)
create implication internal_slit (581) -> internal (74324)
create implication internal_urethral (70) -> internal (74324)
create implication internal_arthropod_abdomen (0) -> internal (74324)
create implication internal_ovipositor (0) -> internal (74324)

Reason: There has been an effort to specify different types of internal shots lately, and I figured a bulk update would be the best place to implement them better as a whole. The Internal_* types of tags are used to specify different types of Internal views, like oral and vaginal. There's a few others that are not populated currently, but I looked at the different types of penetration tags and I figured that at least a few of them are specific and descriptive enough to be populated by posts that already exist.

Other implications have been suggested in topic #32883 , topic #31882 , and topic #24853 . All are still pending approval, so this bulk update seeks to apply them all at once, in addition to other related tags.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2707 (forum #338610) has been approved by @slyroon.

Not sold on the wording for ovippsitor, sheath, slit and abdomen, as internal_{orifice adjective} makes it somewhat clear what the tag means, but internal_{noun} seems to imply something else (such as some vore plant with an ovipositor inside of it to impregnate preys or something of the sort).

A few of these also don't currently have posts under them.

EDIT: Compare internal_penis, which is sometimes, used for slits nevermond that, I could have sworn...

I was also considering having sex_inside (multiple prey fucking whilst being vored, which has the downside of making it seem like it could also mean "sex indoors") to possibly something like internal_sex, which would be made an extra obvious when you consider that this scenario almost always requires some form of internal view to be tagged.

If tag names like internal_anal are to be "officialized" by way of implication, internal_sex might end up clashing with these, because internal_anal could be understood to refer to internal_sex + anal.

With that said, and combined with my previous post, I'm really starting to thjnk that the naming pattern is weird and might need rearranging (and possibly aliases).

May I suggest anus_internal, ovipositor_internal, penis/urethra_internal and the like instead? It makes the tags themselves appear clearer in my opinion and opens up additional internal tags for things besides penetration. The main downside would be that, since the varying part is at the beginning, they wouldn't show up grouped together in the tag list.

fifteen said:

EDIT: Compare internal_penis, which is sometimes, used for slits nevermond that, I could have sworn...

I did recently suggest using internal_penis for slits, as it would also include cloacas, as opposed to something like slit_penis which necessarily excludes cloacas and therefore necessitates a separate tag like cloacal_penis for what is essentially the same thing, differentiated only by the orifice it emerges from. Or, it may be useful to keep both of those tags and have them both imply internal_penis (or some analogous concept) as it may be useful to have a way to differentiate between them while also being able to search for them simultaneously.

Of the four posts currently tagged internal_penis, one of them (post #3031768) is used how I suggested (that is, a penis emerging from a genital slit), while the other three are all actually internal_urethral + penis. So if we don’t use it for my suggestion, it should probably either be aliased to internal_urethral, or possibly kept as a tag that implies internal_urethral if it seems necessary to differentiate between the inside of a penile urethra and the inside of a vaginal urethra.

fifteen said:
I was also considering having sex_inside (multiple prey fucking whilst being vored, which has the downside of making it seem like it could also mean "sex indoors") to possibly something like internal_sex, which would be made an extra obvious when you consider that this scenario almost always requires some form of internal view to be tagged.

If tag names like internal_anal are to be "officialized" by way of implication, internal_sex might end up clashing with these, because internal_anal could be understood to refer to internal_sex + anal.

With that said, and combined with my previous post, I'm really starting to thjnk that the naming pattern is weird and might need rearranging (and possibly aliases).

May I suggest anus_internal, ovipositor_internal, penis/urethra_internal and the like instead? It makes the tags themselves appear clearer in my opinion and opens up additional internal tags for things besides penetration. The main downside would be that, since the varying part is at the beginning, they wouldn't show up grouped together in the tag list.

I agree with the naming getting reversed to [Orifice]_internal, so that things like internal_slit make more sense. I'd have to add an alias to the rest of them to cover it but that would certainly work better. I could also add stomach_internal with that, for vore pics. Would it make sense to make it anus_internal or should we keep it as anal_internal

scaliespe said:
I did recently suggest using internal_penis for slits, as it would also include cloacas, as opposed to something like slit_penis which necessarily excludes cloacas and therefore necessitates a separate tag like cloacal_penis for what is essentially the same thing, differentiated only by the orifice it emerges from. Or, it may be useful to keep both of those tags and have them both imply internal_penis (or some analogous concept) as it may be useful to have a way to differentiate between them while also being able to search for them simultaneously.

Of the four posts currently tagged internal_penis, one of them (post #3031768) is used how I suggested (that is, a penis emerging from a genital slit), while the other three are all actually internal_urethral + penis. So if we don’t use it for my suggestion, it should probably either be aliased to internal_urethral, or possibly kept as a tag that implies internal_urethral if it seems necessary to differentiate between the inside of a penile urethra and the inside of a vaginal urethra.

is likely going to be an alias debate somewhere else; it is not something I would want to address in this bulk update, nor do I want to address it until we know what we're aliasing it all to.

volteer133 said:
I agree with the naming getting reversed to [Orifice]_internal, so that things like internal_slit make more sense. I'd have to add an alias to the rest of them to cover it but that would certainly work better. I could also add stomach_internal with that, for vore pics. Would it make sense to make it anus_internal or should we keep it as anal_internal

Depending if we want to follow the nomenclature of the sex act, or the organ that is penetrated (Anal or anus, vaginal or pussy) the updated BUR would be something like:

create implication  anus_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_anal  -> anus_internal 
create implication  pussy_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_vaginal  -> pussy_internal 
create implication oral_internal -> internal 
create implication  cloaca_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_clocacal  -> cloaca_internal 
create implication  urethra_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_urethral  -> urethra_internal 
create implication ovipositor_internal -> internal 
create implication arthropod_abdomen_internal -> internal 
create implication slit_internal -> internal 
create implication sheath_internal -> internal 
create implication stomach_internal -> internal 
create implication nose_internal -> internal 
create implication ear_internal -> internal

OR it would look like

create implication  anal_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_anal  -> anal_internal 
create implication  vaginal_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_vaginal  -> vaginal_internal 
create implication oral_internal -> internal 
create implication  cloacal_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_cloacal  -> cloacal_internal 
create implication  urethral_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_urethral  -> urethral_internal 
create implication ovipositor_internal -> internal 
create implication arthropod_abdomen_internal -> internal 
create implication slit_internal -> internal 
create implication sheath_internal -> internal  
create implication stomach_internal -> internal 
create implication nose_internal -> internal 
create implication ear_internal -> internal

We would manually move internal_sheath and internal_slit tags after adoption, leaving the tags available for alternate use, and manually move the 500 or so internal_oral images in case we want to have it as a companion tag to internal_sex

volteer133 said:
Depending if we want to follow the nomenclature of the sex act, or the organ that is penetrated (Anal or anus, vaginal or pussy) the updated BUR would be something like:

create implication  anus_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_anal  -> anus_internal 
create implication  pussy_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_vaginal  -> pussy_internal 
create implication oral_internal -> internal 
create implication  cloaca_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_clocacal  -> cloaca_internal 
create implication  urethra_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_urethral  -> urethra_internal 
create implication ovipositor_internal -> internal 
create implication arthropod_abdomen_internal -> internal 
create implication slit_internal -> internal 
create implication sheath_internal -> internal 
create implication stomach_internal -> internal 
create implication nose_internal -> internal 
create implication ear_internal -> internal

OR it would look like

create implication  anal_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_anal  -> anal_internal 
create implication  vaginal_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_vaginal  -> vaginal_internal 
create implication oral_internal -> internal 
create implication  cloacal_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_cloacal  -> cloacal_internal 
create implication  urethral_internal  -> internal 
create alias  internal_urethral  -> urethral_internal 
create implication ovipositor_internal -> internal 
create implication arthropod_abdomen_internal -> internal 
create implication slit_internal -> internal 
create implication sheath_internal -> internal  
create implication stomach_internal -> internal 
create implication nose_internal -> internal 
create implication ear_internal -> internal

We would manually move internal_sheath and internal_slit tags after adoption, leaving the tags available for alternate use, and manually move the 500 or so internal_oral images in case we want to have it as a companion tag to internal_sex

Not all organs have an associated adjective, and some would make for really clumsy ones anyway (I still wince when I come across pussy_urethra_vore, but no other name made sense), so I'd vote for the first set.

I don't see internal_sex being much more than a niche tag for some time (it only has 50-something posts at the moment and I can't imagine there being more than 200 on the site at the moment), so I won't be looking to reserve the related "sex act tags" for now. Whether or not to alias the internal_adjectiveal tags to adjective_internal for discoverability, possibly temporarily, is up to you.

EDIT: Depending on how you intend the tags to fit together, you might actually want to have them focus on "cavities" (mouth, throat, rectum, vagina, uterus) rather than "orifices" (oral, anal, pussy), which can give you some more specificity and possibly uniformity in some parts.

The bulk update request #2707 (forum #338610) has been approved by @slyroon.

Oh, did that BUR not get flipped before approval? @volteer133, do you still think we should switch it to NOUN_internal instead of internal_ADJECTIVEal?