Ok I've go done for Plagiarism, and I really sorry for doing that!! But, PLEASE! I still want to upload!! What can I upload? These short of things? - http://i.imgur.com/3A6Vw5X.png - I know I didn't make the pic's or joke of the pic's but can I upload these short of things?

You can upload other people's work, just credit it to them, not yourself.

Furrin_Gok said:
You can upload other people's work, just credit it to them, not yourself.

You should, in fact, ask the artist if it's ok before posting.

Bj007pro said:
Ok I've go done for Plagiarism, and I really sorry for doing that!! But, PLEASE! I still want to upload!! What can I upload? These short of things? - http://i.imgur.com/3A6Vw5X.png - I know I didn't make the pic's or joke of the pic's but can I upload these short of things?

No, meme garbage like that will also get deleted.

the stuff you post here doesnt have to be your own. you can post other people's work as long as you ask their permission first and you credit them properly.

You are free to upload artwork by other people but you should ask the artist/s for permission first before uploading their stuff here. Credit them properly by adding their artist tag and provide sources that link back to their artwork/gallery.

Oh and you can't post anything at all due to your upload limit being stuck at 0. Speak to a admin and ask if you can have it increased.

If you want to avoid getting bad records then credit artists and don't post anything which is on avoid posting list, or has very bad quality.

To be honest, asking artist for permission is not really necessary, especially if you post art of someone who has art on the site already and it's not commission/gift/etc to someone else. In worst case you'll get posts deleted and your upload limit will decrease accordingly but I don't remember anyone getting warning for that.

Is it really that bad to not ask for permission first ? I actually never did because even that, 99% of what I upload is from Pixiv so communication is not the easiest.

Plus, why would I even ask for permission anyway, the content that I upload is pictures that are publicly available, and, at least personally, when people draw something and make them publicly available, it is to be shown to everyone so I really have no clue why it would bother them for their pictures being shared elsewhere, and I always did source and tried my best to tag the artists.

I do always have a quick look to the DNP list just in case, but that's about it

Neitsuke said:
Is it really that bad to not ask for permission first ? I actually never did because even that, 99% of what I upload is from Pixiv so communication is not the easiest.

Plus, why would I even ask for permission anyway, the content that I upload is pictures that are publicly available, and, at least personally, when people draw something and make them publicly available, it is to be shown to everyone so I really have no clue why it would bother them for their pictures being shared elsewhere, and I always did source and tried my best to tag the artists.

I do always have a quick look to the DNP list just in case, but that's about it

The DNP rules state that if the artist doesn't already have posted art that you should ask before posting.
Part of what makes this a good site is the efforts taken to work with artists, instead of against them.
We like to keep our content creators happy.

Neitsuke said:
Is it really that bad to not ask for permission first ? I actually never did because even that, 99% of what I upload is from Pixiv so communication is not the easiest.

Plus, why would I even ask for permission anyway, the content that I upload is pictures that are publicly available, and, at least personally, when people draw something and make them publicly available, it is to be shown to everyone so I really have no clue why it would bother them for their pictures being shared elsewhere, and I always did source and tried my best to tag the artists.

I do always have a quick look to the DNP list just in case, but that's about it

I'm annoyingly conscientious and I've never once asked for permission to repost things.

lemongrab said:
Oh and you can't post anything at all due to your upload limit being stuck at 0. Speak to a admin and ask if you can have it increased.

Actually, his upload limit is 8. Less than most people's, but he can still upload.

Halite said:
The DNP rules state that if the artist doesn't already have posted art that you should ask before posting.

If that's the case then all unknown_artist posts should be deleted. All 24274 of them. This is a dead rule.

Furrin_Gok said:
Actually, his upload limit is 8. Less than most people's, but he can still upload.

Oops! You're right. I was looking at the wrong bit.

Granberia said:
If that's the case then all unknown_artist posts should be deleted. All 24274 of them. This is a dead rule.

It's more like a moral rule. If you don't ask, you risk it being taken down by the artist or character owner, which isn't good for your upload limit. If you do, all power to you

Granberia said:
If that's the case then all unknown_artist posts should be deleted. All 24274 of them.

It's been said in other threads that those are okay to post, especially if they're older works.

Though uploading unidentified art seems far riskier than uploading without permission: it might turn out to be dnp, and doing that repeatedly is an easy way of getting banned. Whereas multiple takedowns only have negligible effect on the upload limit.

Granberia said:
If that's the case then all unknown_artist posts should be deleted. All 24274 of them. This is a dead rule.

It's not a rule, it's a law, Wheaton's Law.

I really, really just don't see myself asking everyone all the time whenever I feel like uploading something. I'm not a massive uploader, but even that it would get annoying quickly, and I'm sure that would be both ways. I really don't see the point of asking for that when the picture itself is available for public, unless the picture description brutally states "DO NOT REUPLOAD ANYWHERE" then I absolutely see no moral issue about it.

I actually despise people uploading paid doujins because well, it is paid artwork, and usually the price for the full set of the comic is very low, and it is just plain disrespectful overall

Neitsuke said:
I really, really just don't see myself asking everyone all the time whenever I feel like uploading something. I'm not a massive uploader, but even that it would get annoying quickly, and I'm sure that would be both ways. I really don't see the point of asking for that when the picture itself is available for public, unless the picture description brutally states "DO NOT REUPLOAD ANYWHERE" then I absolutely see no moral issue about it.

I actually despise people uploading paid doujins because well, it is paid artwork, and usually the price for the full set of the comic is very low, and it is just plain disrespectful overall

Who said anything about "all the time"? If you know the artist doesn't mind uploading their art somewhere else, then you can upload without asking.

I upload from a lot of different artists, so every time I find a new artist that draws something great and want to share, I will have to ask, then wait until I get an answer. What if I don't get any replies ? Should I ask again, or just leave the artist alone ?

It just sounds "tedious" for pictures that are readily publicly available already, and just sounds unnecessary to me

You should ask because it's the polite thing to do.

TheHuskyK9 said:
It's more like a moral rule.

Does this mean that if I go to a confession to church of Gadget Hackwrench I would be forgiven that I don't ask people whether I can upload pics?

Neitsuke said:
I upload from a lot of different artists, so every time I find a new artist that draws something great and want to share, I will have to ask, then wait until I get an answer.

I see it this way - on pixiv most artists have "Share" button for embedding pic on other sites. That must mean that they want to share. There are some strange symbols around it but I don't understand any of them so they are probably unimportant. So I upload picture. I love helping - I'm so moral.

Under the current rules, absolutely anything.

SirAntagonist said:
Under the current rules, absolutely anything.]

That's great - I'm going to upload some Jackson Pollock. Since it really exceeds quality standards, this time I'm going to ask for permission. With ouija board.

SirAntagonist said:
Under the current rules, absolutely anything.

Absolutely anything—as long as an mod/admin approves it.

Increases your chances a lot: Furry, good art, high resolution, extremely bizarre or unique.
Increases your chances: Something that's really really cute.
Decreases your chances: Not furry, most of the stuff on inkbunny, your OC, unedited photos, trollish art, MS Paint, non-furry hentai, Equestria Girls humans with a pussy edited on.
Decreases your chances by a lot: DNP, repost, Second Life screenshots, lower res than is available.

Granberia said:
That's great - I'm going to upload some Jackson Pollock. Since it really exceeds quality standards, this time I'm going to ask for permission. With ouija board.

Granberia said:
Does this mean that if I go to a confession to church of Gadget Hackwrench I would be forgiven that I don't ask people whether I can upload pics?

That is completely irrelevant to the topic and not funny at all

Neitsuke said:
I upload from a lot of different artists, so every time I find a new artist that draws something great and want to share, I will have to ask, then wait until I get an answer. What if I don't get any replies ? Should I ask again, or just leave the artist alone ?

It just sounds "tedious" for pictures that are readily publicly available already, and just sounds unnecessary to me

If you don't want to, then you don't have to. It's ideal to ask first so your post won't get deleted

So does this me I can or not post Imags and put unknown_artis?

Bj007pro said:
So does this me I can or not post Imags and put unknown_artis?

As far as I know there's nothing wrong with adding unknown_artist right away. I wouldn't suggest doing it if you actually know the artist...because that would just be silly.

If you have no idea, do a reverse image search on google images to see if you can find it.

It's worth mentioning that every post has links on the side for source-checking. I use the first 3 the most. Note that it tends to be really hard to find images that came from inkbunny or furaffinity since google doesn't index a lot of it.

Bj007pro said:
So does this me I can or not post Imags and put unknown_artis?

What Parasprite said is true and some good tips. Though if you accidentally upload something that turns out to be DNP and you flag your own image, then you can avoid getting a record for the DNP because you did try to correct it. Uploading without knowing the artist does have that risk of turning out to be DNP though. So, it's always better to tag the artist wherever you can, even if it takes a little bit of extra effort.

Bj007pro said:
So does this me I can or not post Imags and put unknown_artis?

If you put unknown_artist on an image with an easily readable signature I will record you.

NotMeNotYou said:
If you put unknown_artist on an image with an easily readable signature I will record you.

Can't you just say "no" then, "not to do it"?

Bj007pro said:
Can't you just say "no" then, "not to do it"?

I think you may have misunderstood. It goes something like this:

1. Artist draws their own name on the picture.
2. The name is easy to read.
3. You tag it with unknown_artist.
4. Bad things will happen.

Or

1. Artist draws their own name on the picture.
2. The name is messy, squiggly, and as much as you try you just can't figure out what it says.
3. You tag it with unknown_artist.
4. Nothing will happen.

In the second case we actually have unknown_artist_signature, by the way.

NotMeNotYou said:
If you put unknown_artist on an image with an easily readable signature I will record you.

*I will rek u mate

NotMeNotYou said:
If you put unknown_artist on an image with an easily readable signature I will record you.

post #155101

• unknown_artist
• Easily readable signature

lel

So ONLY post pics with artist with there names on the pics, and if easy to read, then put the artist in the tags, but if not able to read it, put it as unknown_artist or unknown_artist_signature ?

Off-topic: Why is it that one space is not enough, you have to put two after Question Marks and Commas etc just so it will put 1 space after them?

Bj007pro said:
So ONLY post pics with artist with there names on the pics, and if easy to read, then put the artist in the tags, but if not able to read it, put it as unknown_artist or unknown_artist_signature ?

No.

Post furry art you find.
If it has no signature (and if you don't know the artist) put in unknown_artist.
If the image has a signature that you can read put in what the signature says.
If the image has a signature but you can't read it put in unknown_artist_signature as well as unknown_artist.

Bj007pro said:

Off-topic: Why is it that one space is not enough, you have to put two after Question Marks and Commas etc just so it will put 1 space after them?

It's the mysterious space bug. It actually corrects itself after you refresh the page regardless of how many spaces you add. It automatically combines multiple spaces into a single space for readability. If you hit respond on my post you'll notice I actually put a ridiculous amount of spaces throughout my comment.

NotMeNotYou said:
No.

Post furry art you find.
If it has no signature (and if you don't know the artist) put in unknown_artist.
If the image has a signature that you can read put in what the signature says.
If the image has a signature but you can't read it put in unknown_artist_signature as well as unknown_artist.

Ok, I think I got it now!!! NotMeNotYou can you confirm this?

parasprite said:
It's the mysterious space bug. It actually corrects itself after you refresh the page regardless of how many spaces you add. It automatically combines multiple spaces into a single space for readability. If you hit respond on my post you'll notice I actually put a ridiculous amount of spaces throughout my comment.

LOL!!! :P

Bj007pro said:
Can't you just say "no" then, "not to do it"?

He kinda just did.

NotMeNotYou said:
No.

Post furry art you find.
If it has no signature (and if you don't know the artist) put in unknown_artist.
If the image has a signature that you can read put in what the signature says.
If the image has a signature but you can't read it put in unknown_artist_signature as well as unknown_artist.

Ok... I posted one with the tag unknown_artist and it got deleted straight away?!?!?! WTF?!!?

Bj007pro said:
Ok... I posted one with the tag unknown_artist and it got deleted straight away?!?!?! WTF?!!?

The reason is on the post:

"Inferior version/duplicate of post #32428"

parasprite said:
The reason is on the post:

"Inferior version/duplicate of post #32428"

Oh, right.... well I mean I uploaded another pic and it said it was already uploaded.... So why didn't it tell me that to the other pic???

Also my uploading number is going down, can I ONLY upload 8 per-day?

Bj007pro said:
Oh, right.... well I mean I uploaded another pic and it said it was already uploaded.... So why didn't it tell me that to the other pic???

Also my uploading number is going down, can I ONLY upload 8 per-day?

Basically every post gets checked by admin/mod before it is approved. You can put 8 uploads into that queue before you hit the limit. If it all gets approved in an hour, you can post 8 more. If they all get approved at noon tommorow, then you can post more then.

To the first question. If the picture is an exact copy (same dimensions, same data) it will get rejected, but it doesn't check very well for ones that are compressed differently or have different sizes. It's a pretty rudimentary dupe check from what I understand.

Protip: Do a google reverse image search for something you want to upload, then in the search box add " site:e621.net " (without quotes). This will give you an extra way to check if it's already been posted here. Note that if it's very new (as in minutes or hours after it's been posted) it may not show up on google.

parasprite said:
Protip: Do a google reverse image search for something you want to upload, then in the search box add " site:e621.net " (without quotes). This will give you an extra way to check if it's already been posted here. Note that if it's very new (as in minutes or hours after it's been posted) it may not show up on google.

Either that, or use http://iqdb.harry.lu, which is a reverse image search for e621.

EsalRider said:
Either that, or use http://iqdb.harry.lu, which is a reverse image search for e621.

I always wondered why that link would only give me e621 results. Now I know.

parasprite said:
I always wondered why that link would only give me e621 results. Now I know.

(:P) PROTIP:

EsalRider said:
Either that, or use http://iqdb.harry.lu, which is a reverse image search for e621.

Bj007pro said:
(:P) PROTIP:

Either that, or use http://iqdb.harry.lu, which is a reverse image search for e621.

Bj007pro said:
(:P) PROTIP:

Yes... I noticed your flagged Narse image. A standard reverse image search, I think, has trouble finding things from every site.

I got this shit in my PM!!! Help Please? Tell me why I got it??? - I didn't post/upload any Max Dragon (I SWEAR!!!)

http://i.imgur.com/8dOrO1T.png

Bj007pro said:
I got this shit in my PM!!! Help Please? Tell me why I got it??? - I didn't post/upload any Max Dragon (I SWEAR!!!)

http://i.imgur.com/8dOrO1T.png[/quote]

Max-dragon is the artist's name, which is on the do not post (DNP) list. This means that artwork from this artist can't be uploaded here, and if they are, they will be deleted as soon as possible. Unless artist is in the conditional DNP, which deletion will depend on certain criteria

Bj007pro said:
I got this shit in my PM!!! Help Please? Tell me why I got it??? - I didn't post/upload any Max Dragon (I SWEAR!!!)

http://i.imgur.com/8dOrO1T.png

Look in your deleted posts

May i ask, if a recent upload on a site where anyone can see the image where, you know who is the artist but its a commission for someone else, is that a bad thing to upload?

Just_Another_Dragon said:
May i ask, if a recent upload on a site where anyone can see the image where, you know who is the artist but its a commission for someone else, is that a bad thing to upload?

Commisions are usually postable but it depends on the artist/commissioner and their own personal agreement (some commisioners really don't like people posting what they've purchased). If you aren't sure, just ask the artist if it is okay to post it here.

I still subscribe by the idea that if you upload an image on a public website without a price tag attached to it, it's fair game. Trying to regulate where an image you created can and cannot appear on the internet is like trying to regulate air. This may as well be a rule of the internet: If you post something somewhere once, you've essentially posted it everywhere 1000 times.

FatherOfGray said:
I still subscribe by the idea that if you upload an image on a public website without a price tag attached to it, it's fair game. Trying to regulate where an image you created can and cannot appear on the internet is like trying to regulate air. This may as well be a rule of the internet: If you post something somewhere once, you've essentially posted it everywhere 1000 times.

While that may be true, on e6 the artist's wishes come first (you know...except the whole tagging thing). If they don't want it posted anywhere but their personal FA account they retain the right to say it shouldn't be posted here. Whether or not it gets posted everywhere else is actually irrelevant.

Just want to point out that posting on FA, or some other sites, is a little less "public" then posting on e621. As far as I know pics on FA cannot be searched by google graphics search. I know at least one artist who made a takedown because of that.

Granberia said:
Just want to point out that posting on FA, or some other sites, is a little less "public" then posting on e621. As far as I know pics on FA cannot be searched by google graphics search. I know at least one artist who made a takedown because of that.

Correct. It's usually a pain in the ass to find sources on there or on inkbunny (even when you actually happen to know the artist...). Nothing like wading through 350 similar-looking sketches to realize that the artist just deleted it >.>

parasprite said:
Correct. It's usually a pain in the ass to find sources on there or on inkbunny (even when you actually happen to know the artist...). Nothing like wading through 350 similar-looking sketches to realize that the artist just deleted it >.>

You know that eSix Extend provides inkbunny reverse image search, right?

Granberia said:
You know that eSix Extend provides inkbunny reverse image search, right?

Not on my iPad :(

Granberia said:
Just want to point out that posting on FA, or some other sites, is a little less "public" then posting on e621. As far as I know pics on FA cannot be searched by google graphics search. I know at least one artist who made a takedown because of that.

We can also hide images from google. We only do so by artist's request. That feature has been implemented on here for a while now

TheHuskyK9 said:
We can also hide images from google. We only do so by artist's request. That feature has been implemented on here for a while now

hidegoogle:true

22 posts

lol

TheHuskyK9 said:
We can also hide images from google. We only do so by artist's request. That feature has been implemented on here for a while now

You guys might want to advertise it better. I think that mentioning it on "submit takedown" page wouldn't hurt.

parasprite said:
lol

Also these pics are still searchable using google. It must be implemented recently or is not working.

parasprite said:
lol

Yep. It's one of those features that's rarely used but it's always there :I

Granberia said:
You guys might want to advertise it better. I think that mentioning it on "submit takedown" page wouldn't hurt.

Also these pics are still searchable using google. It must be implemented recently or is not working.

I only found that out once I became an admin. Heck, it was probably there since the site was made and haven't been touched since

TheHuskyK9 said:
I only found that out once I became an admin. Heck, it was probably there since the site was made and haven't been touched since

Oh, ok. So, if I understand correctly, that probably means that they are still searchable because artist asked for them to be hidden after they were already uploaded. If that's the case then yeah - it's not going to be used very often.

Granberia said:
Oh, ok. So, if I understand correctly, that probably means that they are still searchable because artist asked for them to be hidden after they were already uploaded. If that's the case then yeah - it's not going to be used very often.

It can also be before it's uploaded. There's some artists that upload their own content on here too. You can still hide it after it's uploaded, but we probably need to update it a bit in order for it to work properly

First time I've ever heard of that feature, too. I know that some artists have pulled their art from here precisely because they don't want it to show up on Google.

It doesn't seem to actually be working (those hidegoogle:true posts currently show on Google), but if it were.... then yeah, would be worthwhile to mention the feature on the takedown page.

TheHuskyK9 said:
It can also be before it's uploaded. There's some artists that upload their own content on here too. You can still hide it after it's uploaded, but we probably need to update it a bit in order for it to work properly

Yes I guessed that it could be applied before but, even as this thread show, very few people who uploads content here are actually artist who made it - so if it's just working before it's uploaded then it's going to be used rarely.

Granberia said:
Yes I guessed that it could be applied before but, even as this thread show, very few people who uploads content here are actually artist who made it - so if it's just working before it's uploaded then it's going to be used rarely.

But also if they request a takedown because of it showing on Goog, we can just hide the images in question from Goog, fulfilling their wishes and don't even have to takedown anything. My question is, do you want us to keep it or remove it? I mean, we have the opportunity to update a useful feature that can keep posts on the site.

TheHuskyK9 said:
But also if they request a takedown because of it showing on Goog, we can just hide the images in question from Goog, fulfilling their wishes and don't even have to takedown anything. My question is, do you want us to keep it or remove it? I mean, we have the opportunity to update a useful feature that can keep posts on the site.

I'm okay with respecting artist wishes. If artist don't want to be searched by google then it's his or her choice. Besides it's better then to force artist to make a takedown instead.

However, apparently you can't hide them yet. Images tagged with hidegoogle:true are still searchable. I'm not an expert about how google works but isn't removing something from google, when you are not a big bad corp, rather complicated issue?

Granberia said:
I'm okay with respecting artist wishes. If artist don't want to be searched by google then it's his or her choice. Besides it's better then to force artist to make a takedown instead.

However, apparently you can't hide them yet. Images tagged with hidegoogle:true are still searchable. I'm not an expert about how google works but isn't removing something from google, when you are not a big bad corp, rather complicated issue?

I'm not sure about those, but we can hide future posts if we fix and update it. Goog is basically like a storage unit. It can store almost everything on the internet. You cannot remove stuff from Goog but you can hide it from view. So the post is technically still there, but hidden.

Granberia said:
I'm okay with respecting artist wishes. If artist don't want to be searched by google then it's his or her choice. Besides it's better then to force artist to make a takedown instead.

However, apparently you can't hide them yet. Images tagged with hidegoogle:true are still searchable. I'm not an expert about how google works but isn't removing something from google, when you are not a big bad corp, rather complicated issue?

It's actually really easy to hide things from google. You just add it to the robots.txt file and google won't index it.

However, the file itself here is poorly implemented and I'm not even sure that it worked in the past: https://e621.net/robots.txt It may be other places, but I havn't been able to find any other robot.txt's laying around.

Hey husky since you here commenting, can you show me he pic on another website please? - The one that was reported for take down, or I need to avoid uploading? THANKS!!!

So I know what I need to do now, and how to avoid, and I really like to thank you guys, including husky, for letting me still upload after all of the plagiarism I did. I thought I would of gotten band for do it, but I know wonder why I didn't. Is this site/Admin very friendly? Or very forgiven? Or they use/have the 3 changes system? I don't mind known....
Any thanks a lot I love you guys (for above), thanks a lot!!!!

~Bj007pro~

I think there are no problems when people make mistakes and then learn from them, the problem is when people make mistakes and keep on committing the same mistakes.