Topic: [REJECTED] The Ultimate Polymer BUR | rubber, latex, etc.

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #3561 has been rejected.

create alias latex (51507) -> polymer (0)
create alias rubber (11) -> polymer (0)
create alias neoprene (49) -> polymer (0)
create alias latex_clothing (22363) -> polymer_clothing (0)
create alias latex_armwear (3150) -> polymer_armwear (0)
create alias latex_bodysuit (685) -> polymer_bodysuit (0)
create alias latex_bottomwear (397) -> polymer_bottomwear (0)
create alias latex_footwear (1295) -> polymer_footwear (0)
create alias latex_harness (33) -> polymer_harness (0)
create alias latex_legwear (8326) -> polymer_legwear (0)
create alias latex_topwear (923) -> polymer_topwear (0)
create alias latex_underwear (692) -> polymer_underwear (0)
create alias rubber_clothing (10640) -> polymer_clothing (0)
create alias rubber_armwear (1) -> polymer_armwear (0)
create alias rubber_bodysuit (14) -> polymer_bodysuit (0)
create alias rubber_bottomwear (0) -> polymer_bottomwear (0)
create alias rubber_footwear (2) -> polymer_footwear (0)
create alias rubber_harness (0) -> polymer_harness (0)
create alias rubber_legwear (0) -> polymer_legwear (0)
create alias rubber_topwear (3) -> polymer_topwear (0)
create alias rubber_underwear (1) -> polymer_underwear (0)
create implication polymer_clothing (0) -> polymer (0)
create implication polymer_clothing (0) -> clothing (1915282)
create implication liquid_latex (1575) -> polymer (0)
create implication latex_gloves (6176) -> polymer (0)

Reason: Quick introduction:
I am the OP behind topic #31106 (latex ≠ rubber) which ultimately led to the latex tag being unaliased from rubber (thank you RainbowDash 😉). Since then, hundreds of posts have been tagged with latex and/or rubber.

After months of debating on what to do next with the tags, I noticed a lot of discussion with regards to the different ‘rubbers’ that exist (such as latex, vinyl, PVC, neoprene, nitrile, etc.) as well as the distinction between utilitarian wear and fetish wear (in particular rubber/latex gloves).

Therefore, I’ve decided to start this new topic (or rather a BUR) as a follow-up.

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The main idea is to (hopefully) create a polymer tag and alias all rubber-like materials to this new tag. Here’s why:

Using specific rubber-like material tags would overly complicate things with the TWYS principle (tag what you see). Here are some examples for clarification:

post #2671135 post #2855622 post #2968227 post #3150933 post #2669738 post #3109577 post #2941681 post #3689720 post #2958417

All of these posts are tagged with either rubber, latex, neoprene, or vinyl. Most of them even use a combination of these tags. It would be very hard to tell which post features what material without context. Other than different art styles, they all appear to be indistinguishable from one another; they are virtually similar if not identical.

A mention was already made to implicate all these specific ‘rubbers’ to a rubber-like_material tag. However, an alias would be better in order to conform with the TWYS principle. As a matter of fact, all these materials that have been mentioned (rubber, latex, vinyl/pvc, neoprene, etc.) are made of polymers and/or are polymer-based.

Aliasing all of them to polymer could solve this huge debate on ‘rubber or latex’ and ‘rubber-like materials’ (hopefully for good).

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With regards to latex_gloves, maybe it can remain as its own tag to prevent any confusion, but we’ll see what everyone else thinks.

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Note: this BUR is incomplete. There are many more tags that require an alias or implication, but I’m unable to do more than 25 entries, unfortunately.

If you have any suggestions, ideas, or concerns regarding this BUR, please leave comments and we can all examine things further.

EDIT: The bulk update request #3561 (forum #349968) has been rejected by @Zenith-Pendragon.

Updated by auto moderator

Just a quick question:
What does e621 mean with ‘blocking transitive relationships’?
I’ve done a few BURs in the past, but it’s the first time I’m seeing this.

Watsit

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zenith-pendragon said:
Just a quick question:
What does e621 mean with ‘blocking transitive relationships’?
I’ve done a few BURs in the past, but it’s the first time I’m seeing this.

Basically one of the tags has aliases or implications on it already (or has a pending non-BUR request for one) that would prevent the alias or implication in question from working. For example, rubber clothing implicates clothing and rubber, is implicated by rubber_suit, and has rubber_clothes aliased to it, so it can't then be aliased to polymer_clothing with a BUR. The existing aliases and implications need to be removed before a BUR can alias it (and those aliases/implications should be remade on the new tag).

Latex, meanwhile, has a couple pending implication requests, in topic #20827 and topic #35306, preventing the BUR from aliasing it. They would need to be rejected first.

watsit said:
Basically one of the tags has aliases or implications on it already (or has a pending non-BUR request for one) that would prevent the alias or implication in question from working. For example, rubber clothing implicates clothing and rubber, is implicated by rubber_suit, and has rubber_clothes aliased to it, so it can't then be aliased to polymer_clothing with a BUR. The existing aliases and implications need to be removed before a BUR can alias it (and those aliases/implications should be remade on the new tag).

Latex, meanwhile, has a couple pending implication requests, in topic #20827 and topic #35306, preventing the BUR from aliasing it. They would need to be rejected first.

Good to know. Thanks for the input 👍

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