Topic: Tag Alias: communist -> communism

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

But a communist is a person that practices communism. This might be better as an implication.

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JoeX said:
But a communist is a person that practices communism. This might be better as an implication.

Yes, but I think on an image board like e621 it will not make any difference,
i'm either +1 for alias or implication.

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I'm not sure where I stand on this one, tovarisch.

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Yyunko said:
Yes, but I think on an image board like e621 it will not make any difference,
i'm either +1 for alias or implication.

There are several communist propaganda images here with people in them. I think it's safe to separate communist from communism.

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JoeX said:
There are several communist propaganda images here with people in them. I think it's safe to separate communist from communism.

The point is that you can't tag someone as communist without also having evidence of communism.

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Tokaido said:
The point is that you can't tag someone as communist without also having evidence of communism.

Which is exactly why this should be an implication.

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(to nobody in particular)

It's worth noting that the word "communist" is common as an adjective as well. That is you can tag something as being communist without it containing an actual communist. The common usage overlaps with how communism would be tagged. Not that I think that this will cause huge issues with mistagging, just that I doubt many will end up knowing untuitively that there is even a distinction.

Put another way, is anybody in the future going to think to search communism -communist? When they do search it, will the two tags be clean enough to provide relevant results?

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I'm inclined towards the alias since I think very few users will bother to differentiate between the two very much. Although I can waffle between implication and alias if necessary. :p

parasprite said:
... and marxism (if the latter is even a thing).

Marxism is a particular variety of communism, specifically its founding philosophy. It later developed into Leninism in the Soviet Union and Maoism in China, so it should imply, if not alias to, communism. And yes, the Leninists hated the Maoists and vice versa, while socialists couldn't stand either of them.

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Clawstripe said:
I'm inclined towards the alias since I think very few users will bother to differentiate between the two very much. Although I can waffle between implication and alias if necessary. :p

Marxism is a particular variety of communism, specifically its founding philosophy. It later developed into Leninism in the Soviet Union and Maoism in China, so it should imply, if not alias to, communism. And yes, the Leninists hated the Maoists and vice versa, while socialists couldn't stand either of them.

I was actually just pondering a political_ideology sort of tag (but, you know...with a better name). Essentially a political blanket tag for stuff that's srs bsns.

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parasprite said:
I was actually just pondering a political_ideology sort of tag (but, you know...with a better name). Essentially a political blanket tag for stuff that's srs bsns.

Ah, okay. Sorry.

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JoeX said:
Which is exactly why this should be an implication.

In an image, it is impossible to have evidence of them just being a communist, since that is more background lore. Better to alias, in my opinion.

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Looking at both of these, the images are mostly being tagged because they contain 1, communist imagery, 2, imagery of known communist countries or historical figures, 3, references to communistic philosophy. So the tag is more for the concept of communism and not a character's political identity. Probably because trying to tag their political identity runs into the same problems as trying to tag their religious or gender identity: it's not really TWYS, most of the time we can't know either way, so we just don't tag it.

So based on that, the only valid use for the communism tag is for the imagery and concepts, not individual character identities. So the alias makes sense. And if a character was shown displaying pride at being a communist, then it would still contain communism as a concept.

So for all of these reasons, the alias is approved.

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