I've been trying to post stuff lately, to some success, however it seems that some of my stuff is deleted for "not meeting the quality standards". Funny to think that these:

https://e621.net/post/show/568144

https://e621.net/post/show/565752

Are good enough for e621, but these:

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15153489/ (quality standard)

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15156483/ (irrelevant to the site)

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15172765/ (quality standard)

I'm sorry, but I must be missing something here. Anyone can fill me in on this?

Is there a real quality standard or is it just based on the Admin's mood?

It depends on who is doing the approvals and their quality standards.

It definitely depends on who gets to it first (notice that TheHuskyK9 approved the pony one and NotMeNotYou did the rest). There is something like internal guidelines from what I've heard, but it depends on so many factors that it is hard to say what.

These aren't official guidelines or anything, but these are some of the things I've personally noticed about deleted images:

• Compression artifacts, low resolution
• Art that looks like MS Paint.
• 3D art is variable. Second Life is practically non-existent.
• Quality can go down if it's at least humorous.
• Quality can go down if it's animated.
• Quality can go down if it's an extremely weird, bizarre, or specific fetish.
• Quality tends to be a bit higher with non-explicit but risqué images. Probably because there are so many of them and they clutter up the search for what is essentially fap material.
• "How much of this is coming in at once" - this was a huge issue when ponies started showing up because there was so much of it being submitted that quality standards had to go up slightly to compensate.
• Character generators and obvious tracing (tracing is actually considered art theft by the way).
• Your fursona/ponysona/OC/Mary Sue/etc.

I'm not sure why irrelevant to site was marked on that one though (maybe they check the wrong box?). The best thing you can do is send a polite message to the mod that deleted the images (in this case NotMeNotYou) and see what they say about it.

I don't have any particular thread to link to as it's been discussed many times before, but here are a couple previous discussions that you might be interested in: forum #85198 (specifically this post) forum #145158 (3D art), forum #88701 (general "level of quality" discussion)

Depends on who gets to the post first. Honestly I probably would have approved all of them except the pony ones. But only because they lacked the effort of the others.

Also the irrelevant one was most like a mistake by the mod who deleted it.

Isn't it a bit unfair that if the stuff gets deleted or not depends on the admin having a stick up their ass or their panties in a bunch?

SirKinkalot said:
https://e621.net/post/show/568144

Clean lines, proper anatomy.

SirKinkalot said:
https://e621.net/post/show/565752

The shading was the only redeeming feature, if you wouldn't have done that as well as here it would have been deleted as well.
(also stop using low quality backgrounds)

SirKinkalot said:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15153489/ (quality standard)

Bad background, wonky anatomy, too dark, shading doesn't make sense (the light seems to come from 3 different directions, at random)

SirKinkalot said:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15156483/ (irrelevant to the site)

Misclicked the reason, should have been quality.
Anatomy, the face is just no.

SirKinkalot said:
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15172765/ (quality standard)

Copy/paste of the first with different colors.

SirKinkalot said:
Isn't it a bit unfair that if the stuff gets deleted or not depends on the admin having a stick up their ass or their panties in a bunch?

Your stunning argumentation has completely changed my view on your art.

NotMeNotYou said:

Your stunning argumentation has completely changed my view on your art.

Somehow I doubt you had a positive look on it in the first place. But yeah, don't sweat it. I'm not posting my stuff here anymore.

Well this certainly went south.

Just_Another_Dragon said:
Well this certainly went south.

It always does. User complains about their posts being deleted, we tell them how we do things around here, user either tries to threaten to stop posting here or stops anyway. The outcome is the same as always

TheHuskyK9 said:
It always does. User complains about their posts being deleted, we tell them how we do things around here, user either tries to threaten to stop posting here or stops anyway. The outcome is the same as always

The ones that complain about their posts being deleted are also generally rude and/or insulting toward the staff.

To be honest, he does have a point that the amount of subjectivity that's allowed for can come off as a bit unfair to those having experienced a negative outcome. I think that's reasonable. Not that I'd know of any real alternatives, since you can only judge drawings 'by the book' so much, and no doubt it's too much work for only one person to do (which would be the best for consistency's sake).

I agree with Jogofthat, the site's standards can seem a bit intimidating and harsh at first, but you probably shouldn't start posting stuff until you come to understand what is and isn't acceptable here.

Yeah, the approval system is pretty subjective and not always consistent, but isn't art subjective and inconsistent as well? Them's the breaks.

Halite said:
The ones that complain about their posts being deleted are also generally rude and/or insulting toward the staff.

Admittedly, I've had some posts deleted and complained about it, but I did it through personal PMs and think I was at least somewhat polite about it.

Different admins have different preferences for what should and what shouldn't be on the site, but typically if any of them remove the image, it's because it's on the line. It's not a thin line, guys, it's a rather large one, and some admins say "If it's on the line, it's good," while others say "if it's even touching the line, no go." Take criticism as though it's intended kindly, even if it doesn't look like it was.

These threads are popping up with increasing regularity. Perhaps it's time to revisit how low quality and irrelevant post deletions are handled. For instance:

1. Admins can list specific major issues with deleted posts in their deletion reasons, if that's not too much of a burden.

2. The Upload page or How To Upload Guide should be updated with detailed acceptable content guidelines. I see the How To Upload Guide does link to a secondary uploading guide that outlines some relevance and quality checks. However, the descriptions in the second page seem incomplete, and frankly the second page in its current state is rather redundant of the How To Upload Guide. Regardless, the content and quality check information is too buried or obscure for seemingly too many uploaders and should be brought forward, updated, and highlighted.

3. When a post is deleted, the user who submitted the post should be informed. I get the feeling this already happens, perhaps the user receives an automated notification stating the deletion reason verbatim, which they should--I wouldn't know. Failing personalized PMs (not gonna happen) and #1, such notifications should at least link to the updated, detailed guidelines mentioned in #2. That's probably a super-easy change if admins are already selecting standardized deletion reasons via forms.

4. Lastly, all deleted posts' pages should have some noticeable message briefly explaining that the post was deleted by an admin for "one of the following reasons: [list of reasons]" and then link to "a detailed explanation" of those reasons as provided by #2. Personally, I would limit the brief list of reasons to just the exact headings used in the linked page, for organization and a clear message, so something like "relevance, quality, duplicate/inferior, and Do Not Post artist" (anything else?).

That covers before uploading (#2), during deletion (#1), after deletion (#3), and retroactively addresses past deletions (#4).

SirKinkalot said:

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15153489/ (quality standard)

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15156483/ (irrelevant to the site)

https://www.furaffinity.net/view/15172765/ (quality standard)

Whoa, and I thought my stuff was mediocre.

And you really needed to kick a thread that's been dead for a month, just to be a douche to someone?

Necromancy is illegal if I remember correctly.

Dominion said:
Necromancy is illegal if I remember correctly.

But it seems like there are necromancers everywhere, even powerful ones that can revive 3 year old threads.

post #241639

parasprite said:
post #241639

On the subject of lazy art that gets in still . . .

CamKitty said:
On the subject of lazy art that gets in still . . .

That was posted 2 years ago.

post #56983

Implying we have standards.

SirAntagonist said:
post #56983

Implying we have standards.

Implying we have implications.

...oh, wait.

SirAntagonist said:
post #56983

Implying we have standards.

Implying the standards five years ago are somehow the same standards we use now...

furrypickle said:
Implying the standards five years ago are somehow the same standards we use now...

post #513276

Yes.

the quality art standard is "don't let memeboy post any art" as far as I care

SirAntagonist said:
post #513276

Yes.

It's art, it's decent quality, and it's not human-only. And even then, we still don't approve those very often because not very relevant, just a little bit. We have standards, they're just not matched to your personal standards. That is why we have zero_pictured and not_furry as tags, so that no matter which content you object to, you can still blacklist it from showing up in your own results on the site.

SirAntagonist said:
post #513276

Yes.

You still on about that? Move on

But I like this GLORIOUS image.
To be honest it is a quality photograph.
post #355724

NoctemWerewolf said:
But I like this GLORIOUS image.
To be honest it is a quality photograph.
post #355724

Just imagine it's cum and there's a Fox with hyper balls on the other end of that shaft :P

memeboy said:
the quality art standard is "don't let memeboy post any art" as far as I care

I don't buy for a second that you actually expected this or this to be approved.

TheHuskyK9 said:
You still on about that? Move on

If you'd rather me use a different picture, there's more.

post #392828

post #579621

post #413834

post #347189

furrypickle said:
We have standards, they're just not matched to your personal standards.

That's because every mod has their own standards, and it's 100% random if a picture gets approved if it's not explicitly furry.

If I wanted to see pictures of flowers and mountains, I'd go to Deviantart.

SirAntagonist said:
(...)

Second one is a part of a comic that is relevant to the site.

I don't mind that sometimes strange things pass through moderation - it happens, and I don't think that alternatives (like - removing all not furry art) are better. I just hope that after recent announcement by EDF no admin would argue that this is not a furry site in the comments.

Granberia said:
no admin would argue that this is not a furry site in the comments.

According to what I was told, this isn't a furry site. It's an art site.

SirAntagonist said:
If you'd rather me use a different picture, there's more.

post #392828

post #579621

post #413834

post #347189

That's because every mod has their own standards, and it's 100% random if a picture gets approved if it's not explicitly furry.

If I wanted to see pictures of flowers and mountains, I'd go to Deviantart.

I will make this painfully easy for you to understand. Overall, THIS IS AN ART SITE. It is not strictly furry but we do prefer furry art.

• If the quality is decent enough, it will get approved. (Excluding purely human posts)
• If it's a bit below decent quality but has some humor in it, it will most likely get approved.
• If it's at least decent quality scenery art, it will most likely get approved.

Type of posts that will not get approved:

• Strictly human posts that contain nothing furry nor any humor.
• Troll posts
• Horrible edits
• Real porn that is not altered in any way (photomorphs are fine)
• Shitty art that looks like a kindergartner drew it

Only time if these get approved (excluding real porn) is when an admin wants the uploader to get bombarded by other members in the comments. Ex. a troll post.

TheHuskyK9 said:
I will make this painfully easy for you to understand. Overall, THIS IS AN ART SITE. It is not strictly furry but we do prefer furry art.

• If the quality is decent enough, it will get approved. (Excluding purely human posts)
• If it's a bit below decent quality but has some humor in it, it will most likely get approved.
• If it's at least decent quality scenery art, it will most likely get approved.

Type of posts that will not get approved:

• Strictly human posts that contain nothing furry nor any humor.
• Troll posts
• Horrible edits
• Real porn that is not altered in any way (photomorphs are fine)
• Shitty art that looks like a kindergartner drew it

Only time if these get approved (excluding real porn) is when an admin wants the uploader to get bombarded by other members in the comments. Ex. a troll post.

See previous comment.

SirAntagonist said:
See previous comment.

Read my comment again until you memorized it

TheHuskyK9 said:
I will make this painfully easy for you to understand. Overall, THIS IS AN ART SITE. It is not strictly furry but we do prefer furry art.

(...)

• If it's a bit below decent quality but has some humor in it, it will most likely get approved.
• If it's at least decent quality scenery art, it will most likely get approved.

.

Are those official guidelines or something you've just come up with?

Because EDF in forum #146158 said

Anything that is not furry, feral, or anthro as a focus of the post will likely be deleted off the site as irrelevant.

In this thread, users and admins passive aggressively not hearing each others points lol.

Meh

TheHuskyK9 said:
Read my comment again until you memorized it

Read EDF's comment until you memorized it.

Granberia said:
Are those official guidelines or something you've just come up with?

Because EDF in forum #146158 said

And I agree with him. That's what I meant when I said:

Type of posts that will not get approved:

• Strictly human posts that contain nothing furry nor any humor.

SirAntagonist said:
Read EDF's comment until you memorized it.

Read my previous comment until you stop trying to start something you can't finish

TheHuskyK9 said:
Read my previous comment until you stop trying to start something you can't finish

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Anything that is not furry, feral, or anthro as a focus of the post will likely be deleted off the site as irrelevant.

NotMeNotYou said:
Personally I've always said that our focus is furry and furry related stuff, this just makes a fully official ruling because the real rules never said anything about that, which led to confusion for a lot of users.

Don't blame me just because your guidelines for what's acceptable contradict other's guidelines.

SirAntagonist said:
Don't blame me just because your guidelines for what's acceptable contradict other's guidelines.

Actually they go along with the current guidelines in place. Just different wording

TheHuskyK9 said:
Actually they go along with the current guidelines in place. Just different wording

You said:
THIS IS AN ART SITE. It is not strictly furry but we do prefer furry art.

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Anything that is not furry, feral, or anthro as a focus of the post will likely be deleted off the site as irrelevant.

k

SirAntagonist said:
k

EDFDarkAngel1 said:
Anything that is not furry, feral, or anthro as a focus of the post will likely be deleted off the site as irrelevant.

TheHuskyK9 said:
Type of posts that will not get approved:

• Strictly human posts that contain nothing furry nor any humor.

TheHuskyK9 said:

How the fuck does that part mean "e621 is an art site"?

SirAntagonist said:
How the fuck does that part mean "e621 is an art site"?

Because guess what e621 has.....art! Shocking isn't it?

im laughing

TheHuskyK9 said:
Because guess what e621 has.....art! Shocking isn't it?

Then why was the picture of the Mona Lisa I uploaded deleted?

SirAntagonist said:
Then why was the picture of the Mona Lisa I uploaded deleted?

Because it doesn't meet quality standards. It has no cocks.

SirAntagonist said:
Then why was the picture of the Mona Lisa I uploaded deleted?

Because it was human-only. We don't approve human-only art anymore unless it's absolutely incredibly super fantasticaly amazing. And even then, probably not. So even if it's the mona lisa, it's still human-only and irrelevant for that one simple fact.

SirAntagonist said:
Then why was the picture of the Mona Lisa I uploaded deleted?

Because it was a strictly human post that contain nothing furry nor any humor.

furrypickle said:
unless it's absolutely incredibly super fantasticaly amazing

It was the goddamn Mona Lisa.

furrypickle said:
Because it was human-only. We don't approve human-only art anymore unless it's absolutely incredibly super fantasticaly amazing. And even then, probably not.

The problem is that Husky claims that this is not true.
Unless absolutely incredibly super fantasticaly amazing = humor or decent quality scenery art

furrypickle said:
Because it was human-only. We don't approve human-only art anymore unless it's absolutely incredibly super fantasticaly amazing. And even then, probably not. So even if it's the mona lisa, it's still human-only and irrelevant for that one simple fact.

Also, thanks for the record.

I guess questioning the site's insanely contradictory standards for what's OK to upload is against the rules.

*locking thread at EDFDarkAngel1's request*

SirAntagonist said:
According to what I was told, this isn't a furry site. It's an art site.

(Just wanted to say that yes, we are definitely a furry site)

Good evening, everyone

First off, we are a furry imageboard that caters to decent quality furry-centric art.

It's true, we do have posts that are not defined as above. Largely, these posts were in the past. We have a policy that, no matter how much or little we change our standards, we do not let that affect previous posts.

Secondly, I apologize about the conduct of my staff. I will take care of the internally, but this merely serves to say we are all humans and, more importantly, the administrative team are volunteers. People have good days and bad days... not that this is any excuse, but it may help those who don't know Husky to understand that this is abnormal behavior.

I have unlocked this thread because people are free to continue constructive commentary. I asked Administrator furrypickle to lock it because it was an active issue and I wasn't in a position to take action directly.

I am sorry for those who were offended or upset by the actions of my staff. If you would like to discuss the matter further, please dmail me, or contact me at [email protected].

Thank you for your time.

PS - SirAntagonist, I send you a message.

SirAntagonist said:
Then why was the picture of the Mona Lisa I uploaded deleted?

SirAntagonist said:
It was the goddamn Mona Lisa.

Why don't you post the Girl with a Pearl Earring too? It's is like the second Mona Lisa. Along with any other famous art you can find!

SirAntagonist said:
post #347189

But my points would be irrelevent since that THIS IS one of the most famous art in the world . Don't know why it would be here...(except for a fact it's scenery)

Tokaido said:
Just imagine it's cum and there's a Fox with hyper balls on the other end of that shaft :P

But I actually love the way it is.

Just before it dies...
PLEASE FORGIVE ME

post #16961

[X]Furry
[X]Original
[]Quality ???

[X]Posted 6 years ago
[X]Engrish

NoctemWerewolf said:

[X]Furry
[X]Original
[]Quality ???

[X] QUALITY

It's funny how the standards have changed in such a short time. Just fifteen years ago, alt.fan.furry used to be full of art like this: http://www.datapacrat.com/Furry/CD%20-%20Fur/UNSORTED/BOOB.JPG

98% of it wouldn't even be accepted nowadays.

/UNSORTED/BOOB.JPG

It looks like tagging has gotten way better too.

Genjar said:
It's funny how the standards have changed in such a short time. Just fifteen years ago, alt.fan.furry used to be full of art like this: http://www.datapacrat.com/Furry/CD%20-%20Fur/UNSORTED/BOOB.JPG

98% of it wouldn't even be accepted nowadays.

To be fair most computer drawing programs for the consumer market back then we're shit to even today's MSPaint. Better tools allow for better works, considered the same level of skill is applied.
You can't build the LHC with sticks, you need hella advanced sticks.