Posted under Art Talk
Well, I don't know why. They just banned me without any notice. Now they ban my IP.
I can't access that sites without VPN. It's so disrespectful and pretty hurtful.
Take a look sample of my artwork here:
https://e621.net/posts?tags=jjmao
Just because my IB account got banned, the link was broken.
Something wrong about my drawing?
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jjmao said:
Then my post remain on pending status here? Why??
Something wrong about my drawing?
Posts can take anything from a few seconds to 30 days to be approved, the current pending post queue is ~4800 posts long so it's not unusual for it to take quite a while. It could possibly take longer since the posts are tagged as young and many people have that on their blacklist.
faucet said:
Posts can take anything from a few seconds to 30 days to be approved
I think having this sentence presented next to the upload button or somewhere on the upload page may help people understand how the pending works.
watchdog22 said:
I think having this sentence presented next to the upload button or somewhere on the upload page may help people understand how the pending works.
I always assumed that it was, or at least somewhere in one of the links on the upload page, but apparently not. I definitely agree it should be mentioned somewhere, though I'm not sure how many people would actually read it.
edit: went ahead and made a feature request for that, topic #36577
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faucet said:
I always assumed that it was, or at least somewhere in one of the links on the upload page, but apparently not. I definitely agree it should be mentioned somewhere, though I'm not sure how many people would actually read it.
Assumed it could look like https://i.postimg.cc/QMBccr9z/image.png , should be easy with a little css and a custom class name to locate the textbox or upload button
{ color: red; content: 'Posts can take anything from a few seconds to 30 days to be approved'; background-color: transparent; }watchdog22 said:
{ color: red; content: 'Posts can take anything from a few seconds to 30 days to be approved'; background-color: transparent; }
Assumed it could look like https://i.postimg.cc/QMBccr9z/image.png , should be easy with a little css and a custom class name to locate the textbox or upload button
probably should be "anywhere" instead of "anything".
Other than that looks pretty good to me.
I think I like having it right by the upload button instead of by the description box. In case it was a choice of one or the other.
If it's just the IP adddress, don't feel so bad. My Verizon Mobile IP address often gets banned because it's often switched out with infected machine's. :(
Was it the entire account (if a new account is made on a banned IP it might be reason), or just needing VPN but still logging in?
Anyways, contacting the admins there should help it get unbanned if you didn't do some banworthy. i.e. No uploading real porn, etc.
:edit: Tried it. :(
Unknown error. You may need to clear your browser cache and clear your browser cookies, then restart your browser and try again.
Uhm, that's not the normal message for banned account? Looks like some database issue? Contact admins there is all I can say. I've seen this before on some sites and the account wasn't banned.
alphamule said:
If it's just the IP adddress, don't feel so bad. My Verizon Mobile IP address often gets banned because it's often switched out with infected machine's. :(Was it the entire account (if a new account is made on a banned IP it might be reason), or just needing VPN but still logging in?
They blocked my IP. And yes I made new account from banned IP.
My previous account was also banned in same way:
https://inkbunny.net/jingjumao
https://inkbunny.net/jingjumaow
IDK.... Must be something wrong in my drawing. They hate my artwork obviously.
alphamule said:
Unknown error. You may need to clear your browser cache and clear your browser cookies, then restart your browser and try again.Uhm, that's not the normal message for banned account? Looks like some database issue? Contact admins there is all I can say. I've seen this before on some sites and the account wasn't banned.
Nope... It's not error message I received.
Here the unpleasant message:
ERROR: Invalid user_id or no user_id requested. [b]That user account may have been REMOVED at their own request, or by a moderator.
And whenever I try to logged in:
Error: Cannot log in. That account has been disabled or deleted. If this is unexpected, check your email. To reverse a scheduled deletion, contact [email protected].
It's clearly said they suspended my account without any warning.
jjmao said:
Just because my IB account got banned, the link was broken. Then my post remain on pending status here? Why??
Something wrong about my drawing?
Your art looks good enough for instant approval when we notice it, so don't worry about it.
If you want to upload everything you have here, go at it now and I will see to it.
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jjmao said:
Well, I don't know why. They just banned me without any notice. Now they ban my IP.
I can't access that sites without VPN. It's so disrespectful and pretty hurtful.
It's certainly understandable that you'd feel that way. The best step towards hopefully resolving it is to email them and politely ask what's going on. It may be the issue isn't with you or your art directly, but something tangentially related, and your account got caught in the crossfire. You won't know unless you ask. Good luck.
jjmao said:
They blocked my IP. And yes I made new account from banned IP.My previous account was also banned in same way:
https://inkbunny.net/jingjumao
https://inkbunny.net/jingjumaow
Not to sound rude, but the fact that you keep getting banned after ban evading should probably tell you something.
I am not at all surprised that they IP banned you.
If you truly do not know why you have been banned, send an email to support.
From my point of view because it's a tailless furry. Look like human being.
Though Inkbunny rules don't accept humanoid characters with any form.
But I keep posting same thing ever and ever there.
https://wiki.inkbunny.net/wiki/ACP#Human_Characters
Characters that are essentially human (pixies, faeries, elves, orcs, trolls, etc) or just have ears/tails or other superficial animal features applied are considered human for this rule.
jjmao said:
From my point of view because it's a tailless furry. Look like human being.
Though Inkbunny rules don't accept humanoid characters with any form.
But I keep posting same thing ever and ever there.
Essentially kemonomimi? That would do it, as Inkbunny doesn't want to run afoul of (for them) local laws. However, a regular anthro character that happens to be tailless would be kosher. One of my own anthro characters has no apparent tail (being a pika), and he's able to appear naked on Inkbunny with no problem. One regular commenter on my art depicts his anthro characters without tails for story reasons, and he has no problems.
If this seems unfair to you that we get away with what you seemingly can't, then perhaps the issue isn't what you think it is. (Or maybe you indeed tried to upload a kemonomimi at one point; we don't know what your other pictures look like.) Ask the Inkbunny admins and clear the air rather than assume and stay in a state of limbo. Because bitWolfy's right. You needed to have asked before making the second account.
clawstripe said:
If this seems unfair to you that we get away with what you seemingly can't, then perhaps the issue isn't what you think it is.
It's okay. Let's just said it's my own fault. I won't bother register that sites again. I still have pixiv for best alternative.
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jjmao said:
From my point of view because it's a tailless furry. Look like human being.
Best not to assume. Normally you'd get a warning at first for an innocent mistake, not an immediate IP ban with no explanation. If you weren't told why you were banned, politely ask them, and you may be able to clear it up and get access to your account back. It may be as you say, it may not, but guessing in a random e6 forum thread won't address the problem on InkBunny.
Contact them. Contact them. Contact them. Contact them. Contact them. Contact them. Contact them. Contact them.
Also, Pixiv makes you censor the nice bits, because yeah...
If you have an IP address from an ISP that hides everyone behind NAT, you'll get similar issues. This happened with British on Wikipedia a decade or so ago. I looked it up and found this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33720409 Haha, recently, too for this ISP. I wasn't looking for the story about IWF getting ISPs to block Wikipedia, but the one about Wikipedia blocking anonymous edits because of everyone from a region coming in on the same IP address (or range).
Okay, I've tried to contact them. I wonder why they suspend me with no reason. Now still waiting for their answer.
Going to give the same response here as you got on other accounts you opened after suspension of privileges:
Submission creation privileges revoked
Your submission creation privileges have been revoked because this has been identified as an alternate account of @LiuMaoShin who violated our content policies on tracing and derivative works.
Once a tracer, always a tracer. There is no coming back.
Somebody asks a question about an unrelated website on the e621 forums and actually gets an answer, impressive.
greenreaper said:
Going to give the same response here as you got on other accounts you opened after suspension of privileges:Once a tracer, always a tracer. There is no coming back.
Good, tracers are scum. Only thing worse than them is NFTs
Now that I think about this, isn't this incarnation their second ban evasion alt? Or am I mixing them up with a different unrepentant plagiarist.
Honestly I don't know why people act "surprised Pikachu face" when their ban evasion accounts get banned. And if this user did get banned without warning surely there would have been an email...that could have been pushed to spam by accident or an old email that was being used on their account.
Am I the only one who wonders what the original work looks like? Doesn't find a ban list on inkbunny (do they have one?), I'm so curious.
deadoon said:
Now that I think about this, isn't this incarnation their second ban evasion alt? Or am I mixing them up with a different unrepentant plagiarist.
You're right, I swear there was another user who came onto this forum to declare their god-given right to plagiarise. But I have no idea how to find the topic now and it might have been hidden entirely.
wat8548 said:
You're right, I swear there was another user who came onto this forum to declare their god-given right to plagiarise. But I have no idea how to find the topic now and it might have been hidden entirely.
hunan_shanmao whose artist tag was liumaoshin (always with the "mao"s...)
wat8548 said:
You're right, I swear there was another user who came onto this forum to declare their god-given right to plagiarise. But I have no idea how to find the topic now and it might have been hidden entirely.
Was this thread. User already dealt with and thread closed.
pocket_erector said:
Was this thread. User already dealt with and thread closed.
That's the same OP as this thread. Note they quote GreenReaper's post from this topic, which they hid in an attempt to avoid scrutiny (the admin edit on the first post of this thread is a forced unhide). The other thread was closed because it was a not only a duplicate, but created for deceptive reasons.
This topic supposed to be hidden. I don't know why it's forced unhide for no reason. What's the point? For insult?
I see... So this is the work of e621 forum. Love to insult others instead helping.
deleuzian_cattery said:
hunan_shanmao whose artist tag was liumaoshin (always with the "mao"s...)
Not always "mao".
greenreaper said:
Once a tracer, always a tracer. There is no coming back.
Same applied to you.
Once a jerk, then always a jerk. You are the worst admin ever.
Another ban evasion account?
xinke said:
Not always "mao".
lmao, touché.
deleuzian_cattery said:
lmao
I see what you did there.
Tracing isn't what Picasso meant when
Anyway Picasso never wrong when he said "art is theft" and "great artist steal"
And that last isn't quite right. He actually said,
"Bad artists copy. Good artists steal."
itself "stolen" from W. H. Davenport Adams,
"Great poets imitate and improve, whereas small ones steal and spoil."
This explains the concept well, but the gist is that taking someone else's work and claiming it as yours, as in tracing, is mere copying and those who do it will get flak from it, but to "steal" ideas and techniques from other artists, combining them and using them to inspire is how good artists create new material. The notion that a good artist be wholly original is nonsensical and unrealistic.
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xinke said:
This topic supposed to be hidden. I don't know why it's forced unhide for no reason. What's the point? For insult?
I see... So this is the work of e621 forum. Love to insult others instead helping.
I imagine it was unhidden for better transparency, not for continued mockery. With this thread unhidden, should someone in the future want to know why JJmao was banned for whatever reason (perhaps they tried to innocently upload some of JJmao's works only to wonder why they get a record for it), staff and users can pull up this thread for evidence. Furthermore, hiding threads tends to annoy other forumites.
i agree with watsit's honest opinion on topic #36627
IMO, users shouldn't be be able to hide whole topics. Being able to un-hide posts would be nice too (though I can see a small potential for abuse), but normal users shouldn't be able to prevent other normal users from reading and commenting on what others have said. It should either only hide the first post but leave the rest of the topic visible, or if there's some internal reason a topic's visibility is tied to its first post, prevent hiding the first post except by moderators.
i'd even go as far as to suggest that the current topic control should be reversed: topic creators have the ability to lock a thread while only admins can hide it full stop (on top of being able to lock a topic aswell). at least haulting conversation would be better than full on obfuscation
