Quoting the discord conversation here, for context and discussion archival.
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Jan.01.2023
m3g4p0n1 — 17:50 Just a heads up, I created a poem_in_description tag, and checked the posts currently tagged with poem to see which is applicable. Only 63 posts with poems... I thought there would be more >~> DubsTheFox — 17:52 I don't think this should be a tag. it's unrelated to the picture :thonk: m3g4p0n1 — 17:53 there's story_in_description, so... I judged it would be fitting DubsTheFox — 17:53 I mean... we have other tags like lol_comments but... that's also rather eh, in my opinion. I don't know why these are accepted 🤷♂️ m3g4p0n1 — 17:54 I can see those being useful for people looking for funny stuff to meme about DubsTheFox — 17:56 They are against TWYS. My best guess is, they are grandfathered. Just wait for other replies. I am just one guy with an opinion. m3g4p0n1 — 17:57 Okie dokie On my understanding, they are on the same level of reasoning as lore tags irrelevant to TWYS, but not hurtfull to have Donovan DMC — 17:58 it looks like story_in_description is from 2020, and lol_comments is also from 2020 story_in_description was NMNY, lol_comments was Millcore those seem more like the exception and not the rule m3g4p0n1 —18:00 Oh .3. DubsTheFox — 18:00 I am shocked :e6screm: Donovan DMC — 18:00 let me clarify they were changed to meta tags by those two not necessarily created by them DubsTheFox —18:01 ah, I see. Donovan DMC — 18:01 tags don't really carry creator information m3g4p0n1 —18:01 first post added was 3 years go, I think Donovan DMC — 18:01 https://e621.net/tag_type_versions does, however m3g4p0n1 — 18:01 https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&page=133&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_added%5D=story_in_description and it appears lol_comments was first added 12 years ago Donovan DMC — 18:03 it goes beyond the numbered pages post versions is just a special snowflake, and numbered pagination doesn't work after 10,000 entries m3g4p0n1 — 18:05 Oh, so if there are more than 10k changes with this tag, no more than that will show up in search? Donovan DMC — 18:05 click the next down bottom you've gotta use a/b pagination after 10,000 entries so you can't just skip to the end I can't be bothered to go down further https://e621.net/post_versions?page=b10000000&search[tags_added]=story_in_description but that's at least 7 years ago so it looks like the grandfathered in theory is likely found the last page https://e621.net/post_versions?page=b8511582&search%5Btags_added%5D=story_in_description 8 years ago m3g4p0n1 — 18:12 I... think I understand, Well, only 8 posts fit the poem_in_description, so it's easy to undo. I will wait an admin to confirm if the tag is valid or not though.
Jan.02.2023
scaliespe — 04:01 Meta tags don’t always need to follow TWYS many of them already don’t… year tags, for example, or BVAS Donovan DMC — 04:02 meta is probably more often than not outside of tag what you see scaliespe — 04:02 IMO poem_in_description is perfectly fine Donovan DMC — 04:02 creating similar tags because existing tags exist isn't necessarily a good thing what functional use would the tag really have scaliespe — 04:03 Maybe not, but I don’t see it being an issue either Donovan DMC — 04:03 I just see it as something that will be underused and not really help anyone scaliespe — 04:04 I imagine furry poetry is pretty rare regardless DubsTheFox — 04:07 Feel free to use it. But be aware that tags could be invalidated, if they are seen as useless. scaliespe — 04:09 ☝️ Clawstripe — 04:47 I can see poem_in_description as being useful, in that the description is the place where one can put the artist's mentions of what inspired them to create a picture. It's like story_in_description in that it points out there's extra context to a picture that a viewer may want to specifically look for. Of course, since it's not TWYS, it doesn't belong in the general category. It would need to be switched over to meta. Lore is another possibility, although those tags are for things that "correct" or describe something in the picture itself that is known rather than seen. At least, that's my interpretation, which could easily be totally screwy. At the very least, slap it up on the forums and see how it goes over. We could probably get some better arguments for or against poem_in_description.
So, summing up the discussion, I created this new poem_in_description tag, which I saw is not applicable to many posts.
Some users were against this tag, and some users were indifferent.
Tag goes against Tag What You See.
I judged that, while not currently super useful, it may be useful at some point, and in my opinion, is on par with story_in_description and lore tags.
- Should it stay?
- Should it get Invalidated?
- What are your opinions on this tag?