Why are all female Charr being labeled as "cuntboys" on this site it is really annoying. I am begging that something be done to allow proper tagging of female Charr character art. Further more female Charr with armor on get to be labeled as female but the second they are drawn nude they become 'cuntboys' seriously what the hell.

Could you paste the links to the pictures here, as an example?

If they ain't got tits, they ain't gettin' tagged as female. They way Charr are structured, anybody who searches for "cuntboy" and has no idea what Guild Wars 2 is, would want to see those images, therefore they should be tagged that way. (Refer to the flowchart in the first post in this thread.)

Note that "no breasts" =/= "small breasts". Small breasts can be female, but no breasts cannot. (No mastectomy jokes, please.)

Foobaria said:
If they ain't got tits, they ain't gettin' tagged as female. They way Charr are structured, anybody who searches for "cuntboy" and has no idea what Guild Wars 2 is, would want to see those images, therefore they should be tagged that way. (Refer to the flowchart in the first post in this thread.)

Note that "no breasts" =/= "small breasts". Small breasts can be female, but no breasts cannot. (No mastectomy jokes, please.)

Don't listen to this guy.

Just because a character has a flat chest doesn't mean they can't be female. Mikhaila's a good example of this. Just use your best judgment. If a charr doesn't have any female characteristics other than a vaj (eyelashes, female abs, body structure) then they get tagged as cuntboy, because that's what they look like. But not all the time.

Foobaria said:
Note that "no breasts" =/= "small breasts". Small breasts can be female, but no breasts cannot. (No mastectomy jokes, please.)

That would mean a female child is a cuntboy until puberty kicks in.
Or a female with a nonexistant oestrogen (and no testosterone) supply in her fifties would also be a cuntboy.

NotMeNotYouMobile said:
That would mean a female child is a cuntboy until puberty kicks in.
Or a female with a nonexistant oestrogen (and no testosterone) supply in her fifties would also be a cuntboy.

No, they still have tits, they're just flat. The nipples are still there. With a shirt on, though, it goes back to other metrics, as ippi said, because breasts could not be inferred.

Foobaria said:
No, they still have tits, they're just flat. The nipples are still there. With a shirt on, though, it goes back to other metrics, as ippi said, because breasts could not be inferred.

wat

seriously, wat?

First, males also have nipples, second, nipple growth is also directly bound to oestrogen and puberty, to be more specific, nipples start to grow after 4-6 months after puberty or a medical supply of oestrogen. The underlying milk tissue (I suppose these are the tits you mean) start their first growth around 8 months in and the second growth only happens during the first pregnancy due to pregnancy hormones.

A female who never had oestrogen, for example due to nonexistant ovaries or dysfunctional ovaries will never have any of the female characteristics except of her vagina. No gender specific bone structure, no fat tissues around the hips, no breasts, nothing.
She would look as androgyn as it gets.

my guess, butthurt over this -> https://www.e621.net/post/show/281250/4_toes-amber_eyes-anus-bdsm-blue_fur-bondage-bound

looks like a cuntboy to me...

Esme_Belles said:
my guess, butthurt over this -> https://www.e621.net/post/show/281250/4_toes-amber_eyes-anus-bdsm-blue_fur-bondage-bound

looks like a cuntboy to me...

Same here. ~shrug~

That image has already been in one drama over this nonsense. It's famous, I guess.

Also, looking at this person's comments on images, he has some sort of weird counter-fascination with the breasts, becoming equally upset when a Charr is tagged cuntboy but he wants it taggged female, and when a Charr is drawn with breasts and he thinks that's wrong.

There's probably material for a psych paper, here.

ippiki_ookami said:
Don't listen to this guy.

Just because a character has a flat chest doesn't mean they can't be female. Mikhaila's a good example of this. Just use your best judgment. If a charr doesn't have any female characteristics other than a vaj (eyelashes, female abs, body structure) then they get tagged as cuntboy, because that's what they look like. But not all the time.

THIS, for a million times. THIS. Tag what you see has become too literal, stop, take a step back and think about it, "Do lizards have boobs? no? well a female lizard might not have boobs either, does it have female hips? female eyes? yes? good enough! female!"

Instead of raping my search in the name of being literal, go on your gut, if it looks female, it's female.. boobs or no boobs. don't make this a numbers game.

After reading this topic, the only thing that i have learned is: "The guy who invented the concept of cuntboys was a huge troll"

Zenti said:
After reading this topic, the only thing that i have learned is: "The guy who invented the concept of cuntboys was a huge troll"

I wish I could disagree.

Zenti said:
After reading this topic, the only thing that i have learned is: "The guy who invented the concept of cuntboys was a huge troll"

Or he/she was describing some of those Female body builders...

you know i think this users just spitting drama for drama's sake.
ok, so the character looks to me like a cuntboy. but....
heres the drama part, Kelo's spaming
"Character doesn't have breasts :/" on images now with the same species that has boobs.
BTW: this is the image that sparked it all, https://www.e621.net/post/show/281017/amber_eyes-charr-claws-cuntboy-digitigrade-ebikyun

the one i posted erlier was a hit/miss but same species.

To be honest, I wish all cuntboys looked that good. I adore that art style.

Personally, having foreknowledge of the charr it doesn't bug me. But "cuntboy" is one of the singular most absurdly stupid idea's ever created, along with one of the stupidest names.

Princess_Celestia said:
Personally, having foreknowledge of the charr it doesn't bug me. But "cuntboy" is one of the singular most absurdly stupid idea's ever created, along with one of the stupidest names.

i agree, honestly if i could change the world around that one point id make them flat chested females and erase the word cuntboy from existence lol

I think the obvious solution here is to just delete all cuntboys.

I dunno, the idea of cuntboys does sort of make sense to me. If a dickgirl someone who's female in all regards save for having a penis instead of a vagina then the logical opposite of that would be someone who's male in all regards save for having a vagina instead of a penis, a cuntboy. Although, admittedly, "cuntboy" does sound pretty stupid.

Test-Subject_217601 said:
Although, admittedly, "cuntboy" does sound pretty stupid.

Here's a few ideas for replacing the word "cunt" in "cuntboy":
http://namingschemes.com/Vagina_Synonyms

Esme_Belles said:
i agree, honestly if i could change the world around that one point id make them flat chested females and erase the word cuntboy from existence lol

There are differences between flat chested females and cuntboys. A flat chested female has a vagina and secondary female sex characteristics, but no/undeveloped breasts. A cuntboy has a vagina and male secondary sex characteristics. This is a useful distinction.

Have some (SFW) RL examples:
*This is a flat_chest female: http://goo.gl/M9xPc
*This is a cuntboy: http://goo.gl/EMNLq

Test-Subject_217601 said:
I dunno, the idea of cuntboys does sort of make sense to me.

The fact is that everything except cuntboy have a real life example:

male/female: too obvious to say something
dickgirl aka shemale: basically just a man with developed breasts
herm: very rare, but can happen. still got some difference with fictional herms
cuntboy: the only thing google show me when i research this is furry porn... :/

Thanks to Snowy this post is irrelevant...

Snowy said:
There are differences between flat chested females and cuntboys. A flat chested female has a vagina and secondary female sex characteristics, but no/undeveloped breasts. A cuntboy has a vagina and male secondary sex characteristics. This is a useful distinction.

The problem comes in that we're not dealing with reality here, we're dealing with "Furries." aka the ones who love to draw "Guys" who look exactly like females and with a pussy, and then call them guys because their totally guys, call a duck an orange.

Zenti said:
The fact is that everything except cuntboy have a real life example:

Look at the post right above yours.

If you don't believe that that's a real life cuntboy, turn safesearch off and GIS Buck Angel.

Zenti said:
The fact is that everything except cuntboy have a real life example:male/female: too obvious to say something
dickgirl aka shemale: basically just a man with developed breasts
herm: very rare, but can happen. still got some difference with fictional herms
cuntboy: the only thing google show me when i research this is furry porn... :/

Thanks to Snowy this post is irrelevant...

As far as "Tag what you see" goes.
DickGirl: A character with female characteristics and a penis {No gender identifiers}
Herm: A character with both sexes visible or indicated
Male/Female: Self obvious
Cuntboy: A character with male secondary traits {Even though most "Furries" draw them with female traits *Eyeroll*} and a pussy.

God damn it.

I normally stay away from the female/cuntboy/flat_chested female debates.. but this one is really pissing me off.

On one hand, they are very realistic cats, which do not have breasts, but looking at other realistic "female" felines of such nature, we dont' have people labling them as cuntboys. So why are people getting a bug up their ass over the female Charr?

Granted this one [https://www.e621.net/post/show/281250/] DOES strongly look like a "cuntboy", when referenced to other cuntboy drawings on this site - a young male teen with a vagina. Most of the other seen female Charr artwork are given very female traits (minus said "required" breasts).

I'm not trying to cause friction or e621 drama (and I'm not looking to get another negative mark, so if told to lay off I will), but I think some people are taking a concept to far (vagina + no breasts = cuntboy) while not taking any other artistic factors into play.

For now, I'm leaving most of the female Charr artwork that don't have very distinctive breasts with both the cuntboy and female tags, as both are relivent depending on your perspective.

Murmillos said:
For now, I'm leaving most of the female Charr artwork that don't have very distinctive breasts with both the cuntboy and female tags, as both are relivent depending on your perspective.

There's no need to have two gender tags for a single character. Just tag them on a case by case basis based on your best judgment. If they look like a dude with a vaj, tag it cuntboy, but if it looks like a chick without tits, tag it female. If someone gives you shit about your judgment, as I suspect some might, then just grab one of us to settle it, since there's no sweeping ruling we can make.

http://wiki.guildwars2.Charr

There desperately needs to be a rule for character lore to be used in distinction. Female Charr who look like female Charr like this one, http://e621.net/post/show/297615/blue_eyes-charr-feline-female-guild_wars-muscles-m need to be labeled as female. If they are drawn outside the style of the game and look like this image, https://www.e621.net/post/show/281250/4_toes-amber_eyes-anus-bdsm-blue_fur-bondage-bound then I that's fine to be a 'cuntboy' as that art style is far off from what a Charr should look like anyhow.

Mikhaila is not a cuntboy and so are not properly drawn female Charr.

Kelo said:

Honestly, and this is coming from a Guild Wars 2 player with a female Charr, but [http://e621.net/post/show/297615/] does strongly look masculine/male. Now, I'm not saying female Charr need to be drawn with DD breasts, but artist should take some care in making sure that if they are drawing Female Charr, they are slightly more stylized outside of "actual" lore to be seen as female to those outside of the circle.
But i'm not going to change it from female to male; but I wouldn't be up in arms if somebody did (as I was when others changed very female looking Charr tags).

You may think Guild Wars 2 is awesome, but it has nowhere near the popular exposure to get around the "outside knowledge" rule. It's not as simple as the lizard example above: Almost everyone knows what lizards are like.

Kelo said:
There desperately needs to be a rule for character lore to be used in distinction. Female Charr who look like female Charr like this one, http://e621.net/post/show/297615/blue_eyes-charr-feline-female-guild_wars-muscles-m need to be labeled as female. If they are drawn outside the style of the game and look like this image, https://www.e621.net/post/show/281250/4_toes-amber_eyes-anus-bdsm-blue_fur-bondage-bound then I that's fine to be a 'cuntboy' as that art style is far off from what a Charr should look like anyhow.

Mikhaila is not a cuntboy and so are not properly drawn female Charr.

We allow exceptions for charr and we'll have to for everything else. Every character owner who says their female character is "normally" a male, so they get tagged male, and every wolf who's a "tiger in spirit" so they get tagged tiger (yes I've heard that). Rule exceptions cause a breakdown in order, something that is very important for a site like this to function.

Point is, lore is completely irrelevant to the purpose of an art cataloging site. That's all we are. We show you a picture and tag what we see in front of us, objectively and without bias or outside knowledge. People who don't know what a charr is or who are unfamiliar with a character don't need to know their backstory from the tags, they can search that crap off-site, or even in the comments. If you're worried about not finding female charr when you search female charr, then just search charr and sift through a few more images to find what you want. Things can't always be tied up in a nice neat little package.

Munkelzahn said:
Here's a few ideas for replacing the word "cunt" in "cuntboy":
http://namingschemes.com/Vagina_Synonyms

Coo-chi snorcher boys

Snowy said:
Look at the post right above yours.

If you don't believe that that's a real life cuntboy, turn safesearch off and GIS Buck Angel.

Most likely a transgender male. Meaning they went from FTM but didn't get the "bottom" surgery.

RecklessJester said:
Most likely a transgender male. Meaning they went from FTM but didn't get the "bottom" surgery.

w@y 2 N3cr0

Test-Subject_217601 said:
I dunno, the idea of cuntboys does sort of make sense to me. If a dickgirl someone who's female in all regards save for having a penis instead of a vagina then the logical opposite of that would be someone who's male in all regards save for having a vagina instead of a penis, a cuntboy. Although, admittedly, "cuntboy" does sound pretty stupid.

IMO, both "dickgirl" and "cuntboy" sound pretty stupid. A female with no secondary sexual characteristics is an androgynous female; a male with breasts is intersex or transgendered/transsexual.

I know I can't wave a magic wand to male everything the way I'd like it, but some of those tags I just proposed are in use and are not, AFAIK, deprecated.