Topic: waddling_head should be considered as a form, not a species.

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anguirus12345

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it is wrong to call a waddling_head character of feral or anthro. thinking about it, I think it will be better to classify it as a form. and we could also create the tags (waddling_head_penetrated) and (waddling_head_penetrating).
even though this tag still doesn't qualify as a form, I can't think of a reason why it couldn't make it into the x_penetrating_x classification since human is also a unique shape tag that does.
feral = animal with the body of an animal
anthro = animal with a human body
humanoid = creature that looks human with minimal or no animalistic features
waddling_head = a character with a round body that resembles a head.
but it's like I said, even if it's considered a specie, I still see no reason why it wouldn't fit into the x_penetration_x category.

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Siral Exan

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a lot of this discussion went on in the tag discussion part of e6's discord. IMO, it's essentially both a "species" for all those characters that're just waddling_heads (possibly with limbs), on the other hand it more or less describes the form of certain characters if they actually have a species name, like how jigglypuff is a waddling head but is also a jigglypuff. so, it looks like it's in this grey area: if we want to count it as a form, we'll need species tags for all those waddling head characters; if we count it as a species, we wouldn't have certain specific tags for those body shapes, meaning people would have to use more vague tags if they want to find specific interactions with such characters. in the end, IDK what should happen, however i do fear that any solution would cause more problems down the line...

also, for all you that were there: pings you.

anguirus12345

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siral_exan said:
a lot of this discussion went on in the tag discussion part of e6's discord. IMO, it's essentially both a "species" for all those characters that're just waddling_heads (possibly with limbs), on the other hand it more or less describes the form of certain characters if they actually have a species name, like how jigglypuff is a waddling head but is also a jigglypuff. so, it looks like it's in this grey area: if we want to count it as a form, we'll need species tags for all those waddling head characters; if we count it as a species, we wouldn't have certain specific tags for those body shapes, meaning people would have to use more vague tags if they want to find specific interactions with such characters. in the end, IDK what should happen, however i do fear that any solution would cause more problems down the line...

also, for all you that were there: pings you.

on that point you are correct. Kirby's species was never revealed for example. we don't have a defined species for Kirby. I think Pac-Man suffers from the same problem.
But "even if it's considered a specie, I still see no reason why it wouldn't fit into the x_penetration_x category" I still think that would be valid.

m3g4p0n1

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The discord conversation

16/01/2023

> anguirus12345 — 09:57
should there be a tag called waddling_head_penetrated?

> anguirus12345 — 13:52
.

> m3g4p0n1 — 13:55
what does that tag mean?

> DubsTheFox — 13:56
Waddling heads are characters like kirby

> m3g4p0n1 — 13:57
Hmm, dunno, x_penetrated tags, as far as I can see, are only used for genders, not species
I think there shouldn't be a waddling_head_penetrated, the same way e don't have canine_penetrated or... idk, honestly
searching waddling_head ~blowjob ~penetration should be more than enough, since those are basic tags that are hard to forget

> anguirus12345 — 13:59
I don't think waddling_head should be considered a species but a form.
I don't know how to create a forum (general Tag > specie Tag)

> m3g4p0n1 — 14:02
their form is unique enough to be considered a species, imo

> anguirus12345 — 14:05
not exactly
Kirby, Pacman and jigglypuff are not the same species, but they are all Waddling_Head.

> m3g4p0n1 — 14:06
The same way Wolf, Jackal and Coyotes aren't the same species, but they're all canines
Waddling_head can be a "umbrella" species tag, I think that's the therm
No wait, I think I goofed a little
either way.. just give a look at how the species tree work for canid

> e621 Bot — 14:07
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/canid

> Donovan DMC — 14:07
those trees happen due to actual taxonomy
that's scientific grouping

> anguirus12345 — 14:08
in the case of canines, reptiles and felines, they all have a form: Feral/Anthro, but this is not the case with Waddling_Head. it would be incorrect to mark it as feral and anthro.

> m3g4p0n1 — 14:11
Hmm, okay that makes sense, but then, what wording would you create to differentiate between these?
post #3813152
post #3678414
post #3446237

> anguirus12345 — 14:23
sorry for taking so long to respond. the battery here is not the best. answering your question: you can differentiate them with the name of their species or the name of the character.
for example: post #3446237 i would say its a bear with the waddling_head form.

> m3g4p0n1 — 14:28
Hm..... then I think yes, it would be good to have a waddling_head_penetrated/waddling_head_penetrating tag, it would be in the same standard as feral_penetrated/feral_penetrating or anthro_penetrated/anthro_penetrating
Don't worry about delay to answer, you can always ping me when replying
:BearphonesHappy:

> Donovan DMC — 14:30
I'm sure that could fit into feral/anthro just fine
calling that a new form is like calling a snake a completely different form because it doesn't exactly fit the typical definition of feral or anthro

> anguirus12345 — 14:31
unfortunately I don't know how to create a forum for
General_Tag > Specie_Tag so hopefully some admin will see these comments and do something about it.

> anguirus12345 — 14:31
Snake is feral.

> Donovan DMC — 14:31
that wasn't the point
calling them a completely different form is very overkill
especially if you plan on trying to bring along a ton of tags with that

> anguirus12345 — 14:35
in this case, Tagme can help.

> Donovan DMC — 14:35
not doing it at all would help
I'm not bringing up the effort needed as an issue
it could very easily be put into anthro or feral and everything would be done

> anguirus12345 — 14:37
I think in that case it would be a mistake.

> Donovan DMC — 14:38
that thing isn't distinct enough to call it a whole different form
it's a large face on a round body

> anguirus12345 — 14:38
it would be like putting human in wallet form.

> Donovan DMC — 14:38
what
if you want to call it a species or something and have things implied or whatever, I don't care about that
but suggesting >_penetrating/>_penetrated and more is very overkill and I'm outright against that

> anguirus12345 — 14:39
human doesn't have a defined form and we still use human_penetrated

> Donovan DMC — 14:40
kindly stop pinging me
that's the 4th ping in 10 minutes

> Donovan DMC — 14:40
that's an exception and not the rule
actually no
human is a different form
human isn't anthro or feral
it's human
so that has a good reason to exist

> anguirus12345 — 14:41
it's unfair

> Donovan DMC — 14:42
5th time
it's "unfair"?
humans are very different from anthro or feral??

> anguirus12345 — 14:42
Waddling_head it's not either

> Donovan DMC — 14:45
are you consistently pinging me to piss me off or what

> anguirus12345 — 14:47
But what is "ping"?

> scaliespe — 14:48
Turn this off
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Or just don’t use the direct reply feature.

> anguirus12345 — 14:50
Oh. Okay. I will stop.

> scaliespe — 14:50
You just did it to me. :oscillate:

> anguirus12345 — 14:50
Sorry.

> DubsTheFox — 14:51
I bet it is annoying :dogkek:

> scaliespe — 14:51
It’s the worst!!

> scaliespe — 14:51
:badkitty:

> anguirus12345 — 14:51
But I'm just trying to find a reason why Waddling_Head can't go into the x_penetrating_x category.

> scaliespe — 14:51
It can be discussed.
Making a forum thread about it might be more productive.

Watsit

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As far as x_penetrating_y is concerned, the mods have said they plan to use another way of handling x_<doing something to>_y going forward to avoid the explosive growth of the number of <doing something to> along with all the possible x and y combos. I don't know if that would still keep the x_<doing_something>/y_<something_done_to> tags, or if it will be a more general method.

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