Am I being targeted by the mod team or something? I've posted a total of 4 things on the site, and 3 of them have been deleted, only one of which was flagged by another user. Most of them were taken down for, surprise surprise, "not meeting minimum quality standards", and of course there's no way of fighting one of these deletions, because God forbid anyone outside the admin team have any choice in the matter.

this just isn't the place for beginning artists to get started, unfortunately

it's not that you're being targeted, the mods and janitors here are just really diligent

While I understand the frustration of your art not being appreciated as you might expect, it's important, in my personal opinion, to keep in mind that needless agreessive remarks just worsen everything, it helps no one, and specially not you.

Maybe instead of thinking that you're being targeted, you could, perhaps, consider that it's you who should spend more time improving your art? It's always nice seeing artists growing, but it's saddening to see others stagnating in denial over their own overexpectation of their creations.

If your currently available upload is anything to go by, I agree that your art needs improvement, and I must say, that watermark placement is quite disruptive. post #3239576

In my opinion, it's okay to not be good at something, but it's bad to refuse to recognize that.

Consider posting on other sites where there isn't this kind of approval process like twitter and deviantart, or Inkbunny and uraffinity since these are the main furry ones I believe.

m3g4p0n1 said:
While I understand the frustration of your art not being appreciated as you might expect, it's important, in my personal opinion, to keep in mind that needless agreessive remarks just worsen everything, it helps no one, and specially not you.

Maybe instead of thinking that you're being targeted, you could, perhaps, consider that it's you who should spend more time improving your art? It's always nice seeing artists growing, but it's saddening to see others stagnating in denial over their own overexpectation of their creations.

If your currently available upload is anything to go by, I agree that your art needs improvement, and I must say, that watermark placement is quite disruptive. post #3239576

In my opinion, it's okay to not be good at something, but it's bad to refuse to recognize that.

Consider posting on other sites where there isn't this kind of approval process like twitter and deviantart, or Inkbunny and uraffinity since these are the main furry ones I believe.

I don't care about being appreciated. I care about my art being taken down, art i spent a long time working on, only for snobby website admins to go "Mmnn, no, no this isn't good enough to be on *my* website, delete! And no, I will do absolutely nothing to explain why it's bad, and no, you do not have the option to dispute. My word is law"

And you're doing the exact same thing, just saying "your art needs improvement" is a big nothing burger. If you can't tell me what's wrong with it, then there's nothing wrong with it

In all fairness, I can't tell what's wrong with your latest artworks since I can't see deleted stuff that don't have another source. And one of the deleted ones is AI generated, which is against uploading guidelines.

And in regards to the "...And no, I will do absolutely nothing to explain why it's bad, and no, you do not have the option to dispute. My word is law" bit, did you try to politely ask for an explanation for the janitor responsible for deleting your post? I believe you can use dmails for that purpose too, within reason.

Lastly, sorry for not being able to provide more insight to tell you, but this is a curated art archive, it's natural for some stuff to be rejected.

Not to be rude, but why fret about having your art deleted in here, while there are many other sites that will not give you the same issues you're currently having?

bambitheshinx said:
I don't care about being appreciated. I care about my art being taken down, art i spent a long time working on, only for snobby website admins to go "Mmnn, no, no this isn't good enough to be on *my* website, delete! And no, I will do absolutely nothing to explain why it's bad, and no, you do not have the option to dispute. My word is law"

And you're doing the exact same thing, just saying "your art needs improvement" is a big nothing burger. If you can't tell me what's wrong with it, then there's nothing wrong with it

Drop off your egocentricism, this is the description you've put on your fan-artwork.

Hey all. This is my first post here on e621 after making my account here just a week ago, it's also my first drawing of a Pokémon. I'm not sure if the DNP about watermarks applies here because I'm not claiming to own the character presented, and have Nintendo specifically listed as the owner, but let me know.(?)

In what world do you think this constitutes professional art? This is what the 'minimum quality' criteria stasnd for.

Further, this Lugia looks traced.

wolfmanfur said:
Drop off your egocentricism, this is the description you've put on your fan-artwork.
In what world do you think this constitutes professional art? This is what the 'minimum quality' criteria stasnd for.

Further, this Lugia looks traced.

"Drop the egocentrism"

"In what world do you think this constitutes professional art?"

"Further, this Lugia looks traced"

Do I even need to explain what's wrong here? No, no I don't think I do. I'd rather tell you to think whatever you want and take your hypocrisy somewhere else

bambitheshinx said:
"Drop the egocentrism"

"In what world do you think this constitutes professional art?"

"Further, this Lugia looks traced"

Do I even need to explain what's wrong here? No, no I don't think I do. I'd rather tell you to think whatever you want and take your hypocrisy somewhere else

The local weirdo is telling you that your art sucks you would better take him out of everybody here seriously.

I don't publish my own art on e6 because I know it won't be accepted here. Publish it elsewhere with a lower standard and stop complaining, your art is not good enough. If you want your art to stay put, either go to art school or follow tutorials

m3g4p0n1 said:
In all fairness, I can't tell what's wrong with your latest artworks since I can't see deleted stuff that don't have another source. And one of the deleted ones is AI generated, which is against uploading guidelines.

And in regards to the "...And no, I will do absolutely nothing to explain why it's bad, and no, you do not have the option to dispute. My word is law" bit, did you try to politely ask for an explanation for the janitor responsible for deleting your post? I believe you can use dmails for that purpose too, within reason.

Lastly, sorry for not being able to provide more insight to tell you, but this is a curated art archive, it's natural for some stuff to be rejected.

Not to be rude, but why fret about having your art deleted in here, while there are many other sites that will not give you the same issues you're currently having?

How would I be able to ask the person who deleted it? It's not like it gives a name next to "reason for deletion" what, am I just supposed to comb the list of admins until I find the one who did it?

As for your point about other sites I can post to, I'd rather not. Because on those sites people would rather talk shit and add nothing of value, like the gentlemen underneath you. On here people actually give something of substance and aren't just negative for the sake of being negative, with some exceptions. At least, when my posts are allowed to stay up that is

bambitheshinx said:
"Drop the egocentrism"

"In what world do you think this constitutes professional art?"

"Further, this Lugia looks traced"

Do I even need to explain what's wrong here? No, no I don't think I do. I'd rather tell you to think whatever you want and take your hypocrisy somewhere else

Well, trying to explain your point on something is, usually, the best course of action when you want to complain about something.
But, if you're not willing to listen to our points calmly, or, as you may think, "we are not willing to listen to you", then I guess it would indeed be best to try other sites at the current moment.

I'm not an admin though, so I may not have much of a say on the topic.

bambitheshinx said:
I don't care about being appreciated. I care about my art being taken down,

I said "appreciated" because I'm trying to be polite, what I meant by that is that it's not ideal to feel entitled to have your art approved.

Even if it's art that you spent a lot of passion and time on, the sad truth is that, in my opinion, at the end of the day, it's just another drawing among many.

bambitheshinx said:
How would I be able to ask the person who deleted it? It's not like it gives a name next to "reason for deletion" what, am I just supposed to comb the list of admins until I find the one who did it?

It literally does say who deleted it, though. Right next to the deletion reason.
post #3800145: deleted by Mairo
post #3814820: deleted by scaliespe
post #3753296: deleted by Mairo

I agree with all of these deletions.
The AI generated one is a no-brainer. We simply do not wish to host that kind of content.
The other two are simply not very good from an artistic standpoint.

bambitheshinx said:
How would I be able to ask the person who deleted it? It's not like it gives a name next to "reason for deletion" what, am I just supposed to comb the list of admins until I find the one who did it?

Actually, if you go to the post itself, you’ll see that there is always a name next to the deletion reason.

As for the posts themselves, while I wasn’t the one who deleted them (I deleted the AI-generated one, though), I can say I would have made the same choice. Even the one that got approved, I probably would have deleted, but it’s already been approved so I’ll leave it alone.

If you want a clear suggestion to improve, I’ll say you need to work on anatomy. This is probably the most common reason for a post to fail to meet the artistic standards. It does not look like you have a very solid grasp of the underlying bone and muscular structures that make the shape of living characters. They look flat, and regarding the dragon in particular, the entire arm/shoulder/neck region doesn’t make any sense anatomically.

I would suggest studying human and animal anatomy, and to try drawing from photographic reference and muscular diagrams. Once you have the fundamental concepts down, it will be easy to apply them to fictional species. But there are no shortcuts. You’ll get there by practice and study, but don’t expect it to be immediate.

And remember, this is a curated art archive, not a personal art gallery. We delete sometimes hundreds of posts a day for failing to meet our standards; we’re not just singling you out because we don’t like you or something. That’s just what it takes to maintain the quality of artwork that users expect to find when they come here.

You are welcome to continue uploading your artwork here, and your work will eventually start to be approved regularly when your skills improve. Just don’t take it personally when your earlier work gets deleted.

bitwolfy said:
It literally does say who deleted it, though. Right next to the deletion reason.
post #3800145: deleted by Mairo
post #3814820: deleted by scaliespe
post #3753296: deleted by Mairo

I agree with all of these deletions.
The AI generated one is a no-brainer. We simply do not wish to host that kind of content.
The other two are simply not very good from an artistic standpoint.

It doesn't show me anything past the deletion reason, though. That's where it stops

scaliespe said:
Actually, if you go to the post itself, you’ll see that there is always a name next to the deletion reason.

As for the posts themselves, while I wasn’t the one who deleted them (I deleted the AI-generated one, though), I can say I would have made the same choice. Even the one that got approved, I probably would have deleted, but it’s already been approved so I’ll leave it alone.

If you want a clear suggestion to improve, I’ll say you need to work on anatomy. This is probably the most common reason for a post to fail to meet the artistic standards. It does not look like you have a very solid grasp of the underlying bone and muscular structures that make the shape of living characters. They look flat, and regarding the dragon in particular, the entire arm/shoulder/neck region doesn’t make any sense anatomically.

I would suggest studying human and animal anatomy, and to try drawing from photographic reference and muscular diagrams. Once you have the fundamental concepts down, it will be easy to apply them to fictional species. But there are no shortcuts. You’ll get there by practice and study, but don’t expect it to be immediate.

And remember, this is a curated art archive, not a personal art gallery. We delete sometimes hundreds of posts a day for failing to meet our standards; we’re not just singling you out because we don’t like you or something. That’s just what it takes to maintain the quality of artwork that users expect to find when they come here.

You are welcome to continue uploading your artwork here, and your work will eventually start to be approved regularly when your skills improve. Just don’t take it personally when your earlier work gets deleted.

I don't get the option to go to the post itself, and like I said above all it'll show me is the reason for deletion. Well, thanks for trying to help, at least. I can't help but wonder why ai generated art is frowned upon here though given there's a tag for ai generated art

bambitheshinx said:
I don't get the option to go to the post itself, and like I said above all it'll show me is the reason for deletion.

search up the art you uploaded via either your artist tag or user:BambiTheShinx and add the parameter status:deleted and then you should be able to see posts that have been deleted

one you're on the post; flagged and deleted posts should have a big red box telling you both the reason why it what flagged for deletion and who did the flagging (here's one of the posts for convenience ->) post #3800145

(you can also use status:any if you want to see posts that aren't deleted along side deleted ones)

I can't help but wonder why ai generated art is frowned upon here though given there's a tag for ai generated art

posts that have ai art incorporated in them but are also accompanied by handmade art are allowed on this site (e.g. the background is ai but the character in the foreground is handdrawn, ai was used as reference for a cg render and the artist decided to post a side-by-side, ect.), whereas art that is wholey ai generated is banned

fortunatly for you e6 actually has a seperate booru for ai furry art called e6ai.net so post future and past ai endeavors there

bambitheshinx said:
I can't help but wonder why ai generated art is frowned upon here though given there's a tag for ai generated art

There's also a tag for artists whose work is not allowed to be posted here, a tag for files which are lower quality than available at the source, and of course invalid_tag. These are moderation aids, not things we are interested in providing a search for.

m3g4p0n1 said:
In all fairness, I can't tell what's wrong with your latest artworks since I can't see deleted stuff that don't have another source. And one of the deleted ones is AI generated, which is against uploading guidelines.

And in regards to the "...And no, I will do absolutely nothing to explain why it's bad, and no, you do not have the option to dispute. My word is law" bit, did you try to politely ask for an explanation for the janitor responsible for deleting your post? I believe you can use dmails for that purpose too, within reason.

Lastly, sorry for not being able to provide more insight to tell you, but this is a curated art archive, it's natural for some stuff to be rejected.

Not to be rude, but why fret about having your art deleted in here, while there are many other sites that will not give you the same issues you're currently having?

https://rule34.xxx/index.php/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=bambitheshinx other uploads seems can be found here.

bambitheshinx said:
I can't help but wonder why ai generated art is frowned upon here though given there's a tag for ai generated art

may be try post on https://e6ai.net/

The following occasionally floats around when threads like this pop up. It's from Gelbooru, so doesn't officially apply here.

Uploading One's Own Art is a Good Way to Get Your Feelings Hurt

Posting one's own art is severely looked down upon, and there are two reasons behind this:

Firstly, artists tend to be biased when it comes to judging the quality of their own work. What looks good to you may be regarded as mediocre to Gelbooru moderators.
Secondly, more suitable sites to upload your own art to include Deviantart and Pixiv.

Admins and moderators are especially harsh on self-posting artists, lashing out penalties without remorse. The surest way to feature your art on Gelbooru is to show immense talent and skill elsewhere, and with that, captivate some fans on the other side of the Internet into uploading your art.

Now, obviously, we're okay with artists posting here, but artists can be terrible with being objective about their own works. Some overrate themselves, failing to recognize flaws they need to work on. Others underrate themselves, thinking they're absolute garbage much to the utter bafflement of their fanbase. When you're an artist uploading your own work onto e621, you absolutely must accept there's a risk that your individual uploads will get the boot if they aren't up to snuff. Yes, it's happened to me, too, and yes, it can be a punch in the gut, but it was justified, and I used it to do better. Post rejections aren't a rejection of you or your artistry. They just mean that those particular pictures didn't fit e621's standards.

As the old joke goes, "How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice, practice." I also like Chuck Jones' advice for new artists:

"Every artist has thousands of bad drawings in them, and the only way to get rid of them is to draw them out."
and
"All of you have one hundred thousand bad drawings in you. The sooner you get rid of them, the better it will be for everyone."

Do that, and when you look back on these early pictures in a year's time, you'll better see why they were rejected. In five years, you'll be amazed at the progress you've made. In ten years, perhaps you'll be wanting to claw out your eyes rather than look upon them. And your art will undoubtedly stay up on e621 with no problem. (Yes, I do still have a few bad pictures left in me, but thankfully, I've gotten to a few good pictures.)

Your art is bad and the only one who can improve it is you. Sorry fam

bambitheshinx said:
It doesn't show me anything past the deletion reason, though. That's where it stops

This is where we ask the person involved in removing it why it was removed. Sometimes it's put back up, sometimes we get explanations as to why it isn't good enough. Objectively, the Lugia drawing isn't shaded, which would lead a lot towards quality 'score' in people's heads. If it was line art but really really detailed and cleaned, then it would also look better (to me at least). I actually think it's nice but those issues would count against others not quite on the line of getting approval. Tl;Dr Try asking people here about your gallery on other site before uploading, if you are not sure. Which are OK for uploading, etc.