Topic: why is the tag "burger", rather than hamburger?

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m3g4p0n1 said:
I guess a burguer may not always have Ham in it to qualify as hamburger

plus hamburgers come from the Germany's Hamburg

Simple: Because a hamburger isn't the only type of burger. Turkey burgers, chicken burgers, lamb burgers, just to name a few. "Burger" is a catch-all for a diverse type of food. Hamburger specifically refers to a sandwich with beef patties.

moonlit-comet said:
Simple: Because a hamburger isn't the only type of burger. Turkey burgers, chicken burgers, lamb burgers, just to name a few. "Burger" is a catch-all for a diverse type of food. Hamburger specifically refers to a sandwich with beef patties.

i ain't advocating that we change the burger tag to hamburger, but i'm pretty sure "burger" is just a diminutive form of hamburger. turkey hamburger or cheese hamburger is still technically correct it just sounds worse than turkey burger or cheeseburger respectively

to clarify hwy i asked this, it's because people originally started saying "burger" because they mistakenly believed that hamburgers had something to do with ham

In the US, hamburgers have no cheese. Cheeseburgers have cheese.

Both are burgers but a cheeseburger is not a hamburger.

dripen_arn said:
i ain't advocating that we change the burger tag to hamburger, but i'm pretty sure "burger" is just a diminutive form of hamburger. turkey hamburger or cheese hamburger is still technically correct it just sounds worse than turkey burger or cheeseburger respectively

No one in the history of anything has said "turkey hamburger or cheese hamburger".

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camkitty said:
No one in the history of anything has said "turkey hamburger or cheese hamburger".

Some do say "hamburger with cheese", though.

"Burger" is a back-formation from "hamburger". As is obvious, hamburger is derived (as many food names are) from a real place, the German city of Hamburg, although what that connection might be is unclear. After all, if a hamburger has ham in it*, then other burgers ought to start with other meats or non-meats, right? By that logic, the base word should therefore be "burger". Logical, yes?

Plus, since it appears to have been coined at the end of the 1930s, faucet is likely right in that wanting to avoid German-based words could have been a big contributor for burger taking off and becoming accepted. World War II started in 1939, after all.
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  • Yes, I know full well that hamburgers are made with beef patties, not ham. Perhaps that apparent "inaccuracy" was also a contributor to burger's creation.

jan_ka said:
to clarify hwy i asked this, it's because people originally started saying "burger" because they mistakenly believed that hamburgers had something to do with ham

Beef patties aren't ham, so they'd be wrong to think of it that way, but languae evolves, so facts don't matter.
They have used the word burger to mean any kind of hamburger and prefix it when neccessary, vegan burger, cheeseburger etc and this trend will not change anytime soon.

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