Topic: [REJECTED] Tag alias: mouse_tail -> rat_tail

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The tag alias #62222 mouse_tail -> rat_tail has been rejected.

Reason: Both popular, and used to describe the same thing. Keeps in line with the pattern of one shared tag among species sharing an attribute, such as with scut_tail.

EDIT: The tag alias mouse_tail -> rat_tail (forum #365245) has been rejected by @slyroon.

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faucet said:
Might be better to alias both to rodent_tail.

Murine_tail

would be better since squirrels (both tree and ground) and beavers (for example) are rodents, but their tails appear very distinct compared to mice and rats.

Even better again if we can find a non-species name for this tag (maybe hairless_tail?) just like how cow_tail/lion_tail is aliased to tail_tuft and deer_tail/bunny_tail is aliased to scut_tail.

A visually descriptive non-species name would be better, although hairless tail might not be it. Not all mice have hairless tails.

paagslammer said:
The tag alias #62222 mouse_tail -> rat_tail has been rejected.

Reason: Both popular, and used to describe the same thing. Keeps in line with the pattern of one shared tag among species sharing an attribute, such as with scut_tail.

Mice..and rats...are two different kinds of rodents they're not the same....so you can't do that for their tails neither.

faucet said:
Might be better to alias both to rodent_tail.

Even better again if we can find a non-species name for this tag (maybe hairless_tail?) just like how cow_tail/lion_tail is aliased to tail_tuft and deer_tail/bunny_tail is aliased to scut_tail.

I jump behind this as well.

clawstripe said:
Murine_tail would be better since squirrels (both tree and ground) and beavers (for example) are rodents, but their tails appear very distinct compared to mice and rats.
A visually descriptive non-species name would be better, although hairless tail might not be it. Not all mice have hairless tails.

so just get all the scurring creatures that hide in your house under the Murine_tail tag. I think THIS would be for the best.

For a fully species-neutral name, I do think hairless_tail or bald_tail or something would be fine. Not all mice have hairless tails, yes, but if furred tails are included then what is this tag supposed to mean anyway? I assumed the purpose of this tag was for the tails commonly thought of as rat tails, long and hairless. If furred tails were included then this tag would be... any long tail that either has fur or doesn't have fur. Which seems a bit useless

Of the ideas presented, I'm in favor of "Murine_tail"
"hairless_tail" would do the job, but is also too broad, technically applying to hairless cats, many devils/demons, and Frieza.

zigmenthotep said:
Of the ideas presented, I'm in favor of "Murine_tail"
"hairless_tail" would do the job, but is also too broad, technically applying to hairless cats, many devils/demons, and Frieza.

I wonder if it would be too confusing if the wiki simply specified hairless_tail should only be tagged on characters who do have hair on the majority of their bodies? Can't think of examples off the top of my head right now but I feel like there are some tags like that, where the name doesn't 100% cover the criteria for the tag.
(I'd also like to point out that murines aren't the only animals with tails like this, opossums are totally unrelated and have similar tails. Murine_tail is still an okay name if hairless_tail/bald_tail really wouldn't work, but I still think a species-neutral tag would be best if possible)

clawstripe said:
Murine_tail would be better since squirrels (both tree and ground) and beavers (for example) are rodents, but their tails appear very distinct compared to mice and rats.
A visually descriptive non-species name would be better, although hairless tail might not be it. Not all mice have hairless tails.

One issue with this would be that opossums have essentially the same exact kind of tail - long, thin, tapering, hairless, and segmented. If you stuck that kind of tail on an unrelated creature - say, a chimera - you wouldn't necessarily be able to tell if it belonged to a murine or an opossum. Unless it was colored, maybe, but it would be an issue on a monochromatic image, or if the tail is unnaturally colored.

scaliespe said:
One issue with this would be that opossums have essentially the same exact kind of tail - long, thin, tapering, hairless, and segmented. If you stuck that kind of tail on an unrelated creature - say, a chimera - you wouldn't necessarily be able to tell if it belonged to a murine or an opossum. Unless it was colored, maybe, but it would be an issue on a monochromatic image, or if the tail is unnaturally colored.

Yes, I know. As I said:

clawstripe said:
A visually descriptive non-species name would be better, although hairless tail might not be it.

clawstripe said:
Yes, I know. As I said:

Right, my bad. :p

I think hairless_tail might still be a useful tag for identifying an otherwise hairy creature with only the tail bald, even though it doesn't specifically describe this kind of tail exclusive of other bald tails.

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