So while the change that was applied awhile back has certainly cut down on pointless flags I feel the need to request one or two additions to the checks.

Screencaps, Meme or Resolution Artifacts - would apply to game & screenshots (skyrim, Secondlife, ect). Meme (though I still dono what can be classed as such as it seems plenty have escaped being deleted over the years) and images with those horrid jpg aritfacts.

Takedown automatically flags linked post with "Flagged for deletion by 'system' reason: takedown:#" if requester enters post id number.

And finally ... (probably will be turned down) one or two reasons that when checked and submitted first ask "are you sure you wish to flag this image" and if clicked yes send the flagger a neutral stating rules for flagging and a warning not to abuse it. This would be so people stop using the "contains rl porn", "artist on dnp list" and "uncredited trace" as flags for things they think are bad or gross or just have a grudge. Freeing up time spent checking posts that should never of been flagged in the first place.
(Or at least put in bold under the checkboxes "Unless reason is listed, do not flag")

Last but not least a button that flags a post not for deletion but as having a broken thumbnail would be great, maybe a hotpink Icon border?

Esme_Belles said:

Screencaps, Meme or Resolution Artifacts - would apply to game & screenshots (skyrim, Secondlife, ect). Meme (though I still dono what can be classed as such as it seems plenty have escaped being deleted over the years) and images with those horrid jpg aritfacts.

The reason screencaps/meme/artifacts isn't a FFD option is because if it is approved then it doesn't matter, it stays. Old posts with these things aren't getting removed for the same reason.

parasprite said:
The reason screencaps/meme/artifacts isn't a FFD option is because if it is approved then it doesn't matter, it stays. Old posts with these things aren't getting removed for the same reason.

Then the rules section needs to be rewritten. Those things are listed under posting abuse. Though mostly I would like that listed for an ffd due to the really bad sl and game screenies that manage to get through that offer no value other than taking space on e621. I imagine there's been a few that shouldn't be approved but got through before simply by accident on part of the approvee.
Addition: there are valid sl and game screens, but a lot of time its someone with no photograph skills and in the case of sl a common vendor / unaltered avatar in a basic pose Naked or whatnot. Not exactly art. Nor artistic, nor pornography.

What is considered posting abuse is at the mod's discretion, and mostly only applies to what hasn't been approved yet (excepting DNP that wasn't tagged properly). If it had been approved then the mod who approved it says that it's okay and it stays. It isn't a valid reason is because we aren't here to enforce quality control, janitors/mods are.

Para... been here for quite a long time. I know all about the quality control issue so please don't quote scripture to me.

What I'm trying to say is even mods/admin make mistakes, if users cant point them out without getting smacked for ffd abuse well then the new systems flawed.
Maybe set it so that perticuler reason can only be used once after its been approved. Useful, but not open for repeated abuse.

Anyway I'm done with this thread said my bit. Now off to bed with me.

Yeah, that's true.
Screencaps can be difficult to differentiate from 3d, and I've seen many that likely were approved because the mod or admin in question didn't realize that it was a screencap.

Meme should not be included in FFD reasons.
Resolution/artifacts should not be included. If the mods don't reject the image you can upload a higher res version if it exists, then flag the bad one.
The new FFD system cut down on ignorant FFDs and makes it easy to spot malicious use.

Esme_Belles said:
Para... been here for quite a long time. I know all about the quality control issue so please don't quote scripture to me.

What I'm trying to say is even mods/admin make mistakes, if users cant point them out without getting smacked for ffd abuse well then the new systems flawed.

There's nothing stopping an user for sending PM to an admin if she think that there was a mistake. FFD should be for objective things that could be overlooked by admins (like DNP) not for questioning admins decisions. Juts like parasprite said.

i think that "uncredited trace" should have a link field for the original drawing or some sort of evidence. like you wouldnt be able to use that flag reason without providing a link.

Ah, someone else noticed the new FFD set up is missing a few valid things on it's list eh? :P

Mutisija said:
i think that "uncredited trace" should have a link field for the original drawing or some sort of evidence. like you wouldnt be able to use that flag reason without providing a link.

I dunno... it could be a trace of paysite material or something.

Durandal said:
I dunno... it could be a trace of paysite material or something.

You can still provide an offsite link (imgur, etc.). Generally those kinds of things are watermarked anyways so a direct link to the source may not be necessary.

That being said, it would probably be better if it were optional.

Bad ideas.

If we give subjective stuff like "Bad Quality" back we go full circle back to people flagging bullshit because they don't like it.

Honeypots, aka give users a record when clicking the wrong reason, are also bad.

Takedowns can simply be accomplished by using inferior version of, and we'll then properly delete it.

The thing about broken thumbnails would be pretty neat, though.

What about reposts of previously deleted images? There's no flag for that.
I suppose they could be flagged as duplicates, but actually finding the deleted post is pretty hard in some cases. Without being able to see those, that is.

Genjar said:
What about reposts of previously deleted images? There's no flag for that.
I suppose they could be flagged as duplicates, but actually finding the deleted post is pretty hard in some cases. Without being able to see those, that is.

Send a admin or moderator a PM about it.
I've had this happen two, maybe three times (one of them being about 30+ images), all of said times the admins have taken care of it.
Derp, I was thinking about the wrong thing. Still don't doubt that they'd help you with the issue if you brought it to them, tho.

Genjar said:
What about reposts of previously deleted images? There's no flag for that.
I suppose they could be flagged as duplicates, but actually finding the deleted post is pretty hard in some cases. Without being able to see those, that is.

It's not that hard, if you use "Reverse harry.lu Search" in the left sidebar of the post.

Genjar said:
What about reposts of previously deleted images? There's no flag for that.
I suppose they could be flagged as duplicates, but actually finding the deleted post is pretty hard in some cases. Without being able to see those, that is.

I like that suggestion.

Munkelzahn said:
It's not that hard, if you use "Reverse harry.lu Search" in the left sidebar of the post.

That doesn't always work.
I've tried uploading some images that harry.lu didn't list as duplicates, only to find out that it's been previously deleted.

And it must've been an exact duplicate, not an edit, since it got recognized as a repost.