Topic: The "Pear-shaped_figure" Revolution

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

Alright, listen. I'm a dude that's obsessed with the pear shaped figure, it's all I try to draw and it's main thing that hits the neurons.
But there's a problem, not only is the pear-shaped_figure tag barely populated but it's also got some major inconsistencies with what ends up in there.
For example, there's a major difference between this:
post #4244078

And this:
post #4410840

There's gotta either separator between this two vastly different body types.
This isn't a pear this is a something completely different.

I propose maybe just attaching a prefix to this type of body.
"hyper_pear" or "hyper_pear-shaped"
Simply blacklisting "pear-shaped_figure" when "overweight" or "morbidly_obese" appear in the tags doesn't solve the issue.
Doing so would also filter posts like these:

"overweight"
post #4415130

"morbidly_obese"
post #4014424

And these are the exact things I'm looking for when I use this tag.

It's already frustrating enough that the tag is underpopulated but it's also applied broadly.
If approved I also hope that this will rally a small group of people to help me with finding the lost pears on e6.
I know there has to be more.

Updated

spotpotlive said:
words

(one neat trick beforehand, if you don't know you can replace the "post" with "thumb" so it shows the post and people wouldn't need to go directly to the post to check)

second example shouldn't have the pear shaped because thats wayy too off the lines

plus have you checked the wiki on how the tag works?
the last example doesn't fit the tag because its for the upper body to be smaller while the lower ones are that one spongebob meme of squidward

but truly a tag for hyper would do the trick
i encourage for you to then start doing it, if you want the difference then make the difference

another note, don't
"small group of autists to help me"
don't just call other peeps autistic for the sake of something
god forbid someone has a interest without being autistic

but overall you are kind of right to some extent
the tag is being misused to be generalized to anything, there is the hourglass_figure which it is unique just like voluptuous

pear shape is lower thicc
hourglass is lower and upper thicc
voluptuous is lower, mid and upper thicc

people are misusing the tags and we can only just give them a headsup about it and make the changes ourselfs for it to make a difference
if you see more posts being mistagged then go to the uploader or the one who added the tag and send them a dmail about the misuse of the tag, in the past have been an occurrence to me with one user telling me how the hyper and huge tag should be used and now i have a better mind dealing with it

lilyanida said:
plus have you checked the wiki on how the tag works?
the last example doesn't fit the tag because its for the upper body to be smaller while the lower ones are that one spongebob meme of squidward

but truly a tag for hyper would do the trick
i encourage for you to then start doing it, if you want the difference then make the difference

people are misusing the tags and we can only just give them a headsup about it and make the changes ourselfs for it to make a difference
if you see more posts being mistagged then go to the uploader or the one who added the tag and send them a dmail about the misuse of the tag, in the past have been an occurrence to me with one user telling me how the hyper and huge tag should be used and now i have a better mind dealing with it

As much as I would love to go on a one-man crusade to fix up the tag but these posts like these have been apart of the tag since 2012.
Example:
post #498337

Hell, there have probably been more that have been deleted per updated minimum quality standards.

Simply going out and 'correcting' these cases based on my own standards and basis is just asking to catch a record... Especially without approval.
As well as the definition for receiving the pear-shaped_figure tag not covering this case.
It isn't simply misuse, it follows the rules set for the tag. I just personally feel they need to be updated.

One tag covering the 2 vastly different tastes of people is far from the norm on e621.
Else we wouldn't have the small_breasts, large_breasts or even hyper_breasts.

lilyanida said:
another note, don't
"small group of autists to help me"
don't just call other peeps autistic for the sake of something
god forbid someone has a interest without being autistic

"Autists" wasn't meant to be an insult but I get where you're coming from.
It just comes off wrong, especially without context for the kind of person I am.

As the one who wrote the pear-shaped_figure article and added a lot of the posts to the tag, I agree with this post. "Pear figure" is a legitimate term used in beauty and fashion to broadly describe women with wide hips, and carry more fat in their lower body. The examples I picked were some of the more grounded ways for how I think the tag would be used

post #2561510 post #3177528

Your first example, while a little more exaggerated and stylized, would still fall under what I personally think should fall under "pear-shaped_figure", she's still pear shaped, and the additional bottom heavy tag helps describe that exaggerated anatomy she has going on.

There seems to be a good amount posts featuring those exaggerated cartoony spherical-hipped tiny upper body characters and I've been meaning to bring it up in the forum because I had no idea what to tag them as.

I've seen "heavy bottom" and "monobutt" used, but the former is easily confused with the broader and more natural sounding "bottom heavy", and "monobutt" (I think), really only describes when the character's butt doesn't have any cheeks. hyper_pear seems like option, at least to get the ball rolling.

Tangentially, people are far too trigger happy on tagging morbidly_obese, something like this

post #4200941

should be "morbidly obese", that lopunny is far from that - we're not working with medical definitions of morbid obesity, these are tags meant to help search and filter images, sorting that out might be something to do in the future...

maplebytes said:

Tangentially, people are far too trigger happy on tagging morbidly_obese, something like this

post #4200941

should be "morbidly obese", that lopunny is far from that - we're not working with medical definitions of morbid obesity, these are tags meant to help search and filter images, sorting that out might be something to do in the future...

I agree. Far too many are tagged morbidly_obese when obese or just overweight would be more accurate. Same problem with overweight and chubby tags. It's like lots of people think thin or skinny is an average weight. Maybe 50% tagged morbidly_obese are not morbidly obese.

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