Hi I'm not new to this site but also not super familiar with it so I hope this is the right place for such suggestions, anyway.

so basically pitching this suggestion as several times looking for anime art I stuggled to find it eventually using "humanoid" tag instead and then finally found "not furry" I'm hoping this redirect assists other users who've had the same issue. I know e621 is primarily for furry art with one of the best tag based search engines I've seen once I got used to memorizing search terms I frequent. Speaking of anyone know if there'as a complete list dictionary for search tags alphabetized?

Not all anime art is not_furry.

kemono

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animal_humanoid

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Also not all not_furry art is anime.

nimphia said:
Not all anime art is not_furry.

kemono

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animal_humanoid

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Also not all not_furry art is anime.

true I just feel the disambiguation is terrible and anime is still an invalid tag anyway

what are you even suggesting here? do you want something done with the actual tags themselves or do you just want the wiki page for anime to be changed?

anime feels like an invalidation that's not particularly useful. I don't see what one could do with those when cleaning up, besides just untagging it.

Could just alias it to something like... colored. That's the only common denominator that I can see.

genjar said:

Could just alias it to something like... colored. That's the only common denominator that I can see.

colored is a whole can of worms, i would not want to go down that route

Yea, that was a bad idea. Was trying to think of something common, but clearly that wouldn't work. Should just leave it as is, since there's nowhere to alias it.

dba_afish said:
what are you even suggesting here? do you want something done with the actual tags themselves or do you just want the wiki page for anime to be changed?

I was not aware there is a wiki for this site.

this is my thought process

problem: "anime" and "hentai" are an invalid tags that I feel goes past ambigous into cryptic when it comes to accurate search results
solution: better and less vaugely define the tags. Whether that means it counts as an anime based on copyright tags, or the artstyle similar to how the "hi_res" tag works, etc...
suggestion: change "anime" and "hentai" tags to redirect to "not_furry" since not all anime is furry and has an art style and charateristics that even when furry usually falls into "humanoid". So I'm changing my mind and am more inclined to "anime" and "hentai" tags instead of force redirect have the sugggestion for "humanoid" and "not_furry" to be listed in the search instead.

also thanks nimphia for the insight

I hope this post clears things up thank you all for your input

tennen said:
this is my thought process

problem: "anime" and "hentai" are an invalid tags that I feel goes past ambigous into cryptic when it comes to accurate search results

They're invalid tags because they're past ambiguous into cryptic. So, as invalid tags, they're not supposed to be searched for, except to be removed.

solution: better and less vaugely define the tags. Whether that means it counts as an anime based on copyright tags, or the artstyle similar to how the "hi_res" tag works, etc...

Tagging anime (or manga since the vast majority of art here is drawn, not animated) according to copyright is not a good idea since anime/manga franchises can be drawn in Western art styles in much of a similar situation as characters aren't implicated to their species because they can be drawn as an alternate species. (For example, Sailor Moon could be drawn in Batman: The Animated Series style or even Ren & Stimpy style.) I imagine some are such hybrids of styles that there'd be quite a bit of disagreement on whether some posts should be tagged as anime/manga or not.

Furthermore, a bot tags hi_res on posts according to the picture's dimensions, not its contents. How would a bot tell if the contents of a picture is styled as anime/manga? The AI we have at our disposal isn't that sophisticated.

And what would hentai be but anime/manga + Explicit?

suggestion: change "anime" and "hentai" tags to redirect to "not_furry" since not all anime is furry and has an art style and charateristics that even when furry usually falls into "humanoid". So I'm changing my mind and am more inclined to "anime" and "hentai" tags instead of force redirect have the sugggestion for "humanoid" and "not_furry" to be listed in the search instead.

Again, this won't work. Yes, not all anime/manga is furry, but that also means some anime/manga is furry. Therefore, aliasing anime/manga and hentai to non-furry or humanoid would create a heck of a lot of mistags.