Implicating cerberus → canine
Link to implication

Reason:

All instances of cerberus are canine.

I've already gone through and checked them all.

Cerberus has been removed from all old Tirrel posts. Instances where the character was multiheaded but not exclusively canine were switched to their respective species and multihead tags. There were a couple instances where the character had two sock puppets to mimic a cerberus, but was not actually a cerberus, so puppet tags were used.

You can safely implicate cerberus -> 3_heads as well.

I believe 3_heads also implicates multi_head, so this should work out fine.

Wiki will be updated accordingly.

what about this
post #306577
it doesnt look especially canine to me

If I did notice this one, I must have been, I dunno, generous. Dunno how I let this one slip by. Wouldn't know what species to tag it as, as it has no defining features except for its human-ness, but definitely not a cerberus.

Anything else?

+1 for cerberus -> canine
+1 for cerberus -> multi_head - While the most common is 3 heads, it's not difficult to imagine something where cerberus might apply but not 3_heads. For example, if only 2 heads were visible or there were 4+ heads (though I haven't been able to find an example of this).

#529201 was tagged with cerberus because the character belongs to a user named "cerberus", but it shouldn't have been tagged with that anyways so I went ahead and removed it.

Mutisija said:
what about this
post #306577
it doesnt look especially canine to me

Regardless of the implication, that definitely shouldn't be tagged with cerberus. Multi_head and spiked_collar should do fine but I don't know what I'd go with for the species. It's kind of a mishmash of characteristics; closest might be a demon cosplaying as a unicorn but that's all I got.

isnt this basically the same thing as implicating a pokemon to a species?

ippiki_ookami said:
isnt this basically the same thing as implicating a pokemon to a species?

We have a number of different implications from Greek mythology. For example: phoenix -> bird, gryphon -> avian, and unicorn -> equine. The difference between these and Pokémon is that Pokémon are right on the borderline of being considered characters; you can identify Pokémon with as little as a color scheme in some cases, which make them a poor target for implications.

I also noticed

"On e621, the tag is used for any canine character with three heads, regardless of any connection to the mythological creature the tag derives from."

So... there's no way to search for the guardian of the underworld?

I think I get what Ippiki means, like when a pokemon is humanized, but by definition the cerberus character must be canine, otherwise it's a multiheaded something else.

If we changed the definition to include any three-headed character regardless of species, we may as well alias cerberus to 3_heads or vice versa, right?

Eh, if it's still an issue, just implicating multi_head still sounds alright.

parasprite said:
We have a number of different implications from Greek mythology. For example: phoenix -> bird, gryphon -> avian, and unicorn -> equine. The difference between these and Pokémon is that Pokémon are right on the borderline of being considered characters; you can identify Pokémon with as little as a color scheme in some cases, which make them a poor target for implications.

And those are implicated to broader taxonomy, instead of certain species. Gryphon -> avian implication works fine, but gryphon -> eagle or unicorn -> horse wouldn't. The latter were how most of the Pokemon implications used to be.

Implicating Cerberus to canine seems fine to me. Cosplay and such are a problem, but that's the case for any implicated species. For instance, human cosplaying as a reptile is implicated to scalie.

And like others, I disagree with the current wiki definition of Cerberus. The first part is fine, but there's no reason to tag it for any three-headed canine.

How specific do we want to be? The most common depiction in Greek mythology is a 3-headed dog with a mane of snakes, a serpent tail, and the claws of a lion. That's not the only description of Cerberus the Greeks used, sometimes there was only one head, others as many a 50.

Approved the following:

• cerberus -> canine (OP)
• cerberus -> multi_head

This will give us wiggle room for those cases where a cerberus might have more heads.

may as well point out the greek...or was it latin? i may have them mixed up again. anyway, alt name for said canine: kerberos