The bulk update request #8798 is pending approval.

change category full_version_at_paywall (123) -> meta

Reason: Should either be aliased into alternate_version_at_paywall or changed to meta. Mostly, this tag seems to be used for videos/comics that advertise a "full version" at the artist's patreon/substar/fanbox/etc.

Should this be aliased to better_version_at_paywall? The tags are very similar, and full versions without cuts are generally strictly better. Other aliases that would be worth considering are full_version_at_paysite, full_version_at_patreon, and (maybe) fvap for parity with the other bvap aliases.

song said:
Should this be aliased to better_version_at_paywall? The tags are very similar, and full versions without cuts are generally strictly better. Other aliases that would be worth considering are full_version_at_paysite, full_version_at_patreon, and (maybe) fvap for parity with the other bvap aliases.

According to the wiki for better_version_at_paywall, the tag applies if:

• The paywalled version is significantly larger.
• The paywalled version is of the same size but has a higher image quality, such as lossless compression or lesser lossy compression and upscaling issues.

Which seems to be mostly about resolution and image quality, not necessarily whether the paywall has a "more complete" version. Maybe it'd be better to imply full_version_at_paywall to better_version_at_paywall.

pankino2002 said:
Which seems to be mostly about resolution and image quality, not necessarily whether the paywall has a "more complete" version. Maybe it'd be better to imply full_version_at_paywall to better_version_at_paywall.

Perhaps they should be aliased, and have better_version_at_paywall also include uncropped images and longer versions of videos. I don't think we need individual tags for exactly how the paywall version differs from the public one, since most people using the tag have an issue with their being a paywall version at all. Especially with artists that eventually release better (maybe or maybe not the full/"best") versions publicly after a while, micromanaging which *_version_at_paywall tags still apply to the original post weeks or months after the original public version is released would be a pain.

The bulk update request #8801 is pending approval.

create alias fvap (0) -> better_version_at_paywall (885)
create alias full_version_at_paywall (123) -> better_version_at_paywall (885)

Reason:

watsit said:
Perhaps they should be aliased, and have better_version_at_paywall also include uncropped images and longer versions of videos. I don't think we need individual tags for exactly how the paywall version differs from the public one, since most people using the tag have an issue with their being a paywall version at all. Especially with artists that eventually release better (maybe or maybe not the full/"best") versions publicly after a while, micromanaging which *_version_at_paywall tags still apply to the original post weeks or months after the original public version is released would be a pain.

For people who prefer this solution.

The bulk update request #8809 is pending approval.

create alias fvas (0) -> better_version_at_source (2339)
create alias full_version_at_source (1) -> better_version_at_source (2339)

Reason: For the sake of consistency, if BUR #8801 passes.