The bulk update request #8954 is pending approval.

mass update warfare_rouge -> rouge_the_bat_(warfaremachine)
mass update rouge_(valorlynz) -> rouge_the_bat_(valorlynz)

Reason: To keep the model maker format consistent like sevan_(warfaremachine), loona_(dogeela), moxxie_(valorlynz) etc

I'm not sure if the tag should be rouge_(warfaremachine) or rouge_the_bat_(warfaremachine) but since there are other OCs names Rouge I decided to go with the latter.

They should be aliased to rouge_the_bat. They're the same character, not separate ones.

watsit said:
They should be aliased to rouge_the_bat. They're the same character, not separate ones.

Same character, but it specifies the model maker which is a lot of tags on this site like warfare and val's stuff. Some people only like seeing specific models used, hence the tags

I agree with Watsit and don't see the advantage over rouge_the_bat warfare_machine. Valorlynz might need separate copyright vs artist tags, but that seems like a better approach.

kyureki said:
I agree with Watsit and don't see the advantage over rouge_the_bat warfare_machine. Valorlynz might need separate copyright vs artist tags, but that seems like a better approach.

Technically the copyright tag for the modeler (warfare_machine) isn't supposed to exist either. We've been at a stalemate with this for years now.

kyureki said:
I agree with Watsit and don't see the advantage over rouge_the_bat warfare_machine. Valorlynz might need separate copyright vs artist tags, but that seems like a better approach.

All I'm trying to do is keep the tags consistent with other 3D models like loona_(aeridiccore) or renamon_(dogzeela). Character_(modeller) exists for a good majority of 3D on the site much like character_(onder). It fits the format.

faucet said:
Technically the copyright tag for the modeler (warfare_machine) isn't supposed to exist either. We've been at a stalemate with this for years now.

I always found that one strange, hence why I went with "_(modeller)"

Here's another relevant BUR: topic #45003

Related topics:
topic #39773
topic #40657
topic #41843
topic #43654
topic #45003

And the current "main discussion thread" for this topic:
topic #45441

pankino2002 said:
Related topics:
topic #39773
topic #40657
topic #41843
topic #43654
topic #45003

And the current "main discussion thread" for this topic:
topic #45441

Gotta love that psychojohn2 was credited as the model maker when they're all redeye's models. PJ edited RE's models, only the female ones, and has them behind a paywall. I'll never understand it. I even mentioned it in the thead and it's gotta change.

We really have to figure out a way to tag model makers. I see you also agree to my *_(modeller) solution, at least for the time being

bdanimare said:
Gotta love that psychojohn2 was credited as the model maker when they're all redeye's models.

What are you talking about? You were the one, who pointed out that these models have been created by disembowell and that psychojohn2 and redeye only made edits of them.
We wanted to correct that, but the discussion about the tags for models needed to be solved first.

We should keep it in the latest discussion thread topic #45441 so that all this discussion doesn't get split up into so many different places

demonthedarkhound said:
What are you talking about? You were the one, who pointed out that these models have been created by disembowell and that psychojohn2 and redeye only made edits of them.
We wanted to correct that, but the discussion about the tags for models needed to be solved first.

Yeah I know but the one most people are using are redeye's version, not psychojohn's. I have no idea why it was decided to use PJ as the credit over RE

bdanimare said:
Yeah I know but the one most people are using are redeye's version, not psychojohn's. I have no idea why it was decided to use PJ as the credit over RE

You somehow managed to miss the entire point of my last reply, so I try it a bit simpler:
disembowell created these models. Not redeye. Not psychojohn. These two only made edits of the existing models. Solely disembowell should be listed as the modeller.

Why is psychojohn currently credited as the modeller? Because we made a mistake. There was no decision. Just a plain old error.

Why are the models still credited to psychojohn? The discussion about the problems of model tags came up before we could fix that. Said discussion only recently got real motion into it.

I already have a BUR ready to mass update all the *_(psychojohn2) tags to disembowell_(modeller). Just waiting for one of the already existing modeller BURs to get approved.

demonthedarkhound said:
You somehow managed to miss the entire point of my last reply, so I try it a bit simpler:
disembowell created these models. Not redeye. Not psychojohn. These two only made edits of the existing models. Solely disembowell should be listed as the modeller.

Why is psychojohn currently credited as the modeller? Because we made a mistake. There was no decision. Just a plain old error.

Why are the models still credited to psychojohn? The discussion about the problems of model tags came up before we could fix that. Said discussion only recently got real motion into it.

I already have a BUR ready to mass update all the *_(psychojohn2) tags to disembowell_(modeller). Just waiting for one of the already existing modeller BURs to get approved.

Yes, I know. Disembowelled created this version then redeye made this one and then PJ made an edit of RE's and hid that version behind a paywall. The most used version of the model on e6 is redeyes which is why I'm confused as to why it got credited to PJ in the first place.

As for the disembowell tag, it gets confusing because I know there are people who don't want to see that old model but DO want to see redeye's edit.

bdanimare said:
Yes, I know. Disembowelled created this version then redeye made this one and then PJ made an edit of RE's and hid that version behind a paywall. The most used version of the model on e6 is redeyes which is why I'm confused as to why it got credited to PJ in the first place.

So, disembowell CREATED the model and the other two use edited models, but still models CREATED by disembowell. Tagging people that made edits of models would only worsen the problem we already have.

As for the disembowell tag, it gets confusing because I know there are people who don't want to see that old model but DO want to see redeye's edit.

You do remember that you yourself admitted that these models can't be told apart most of the time?

demonthedarkhound said:
So, disembowell CREATED the model and the other two use edited models, but still models CREATED by disembowell. Tagging people that made edits of models would only worsen the problem we already have.
You do remember that you yourself admitted that these models can't be told apart most of the time?

D and RE's versions can but I'd lean on tagging them all as D