The tag implication #64620 anal_hook -> sex_toy is pending approval.

Reason: An anal hook is a sex toy.

I think one issue could be that you can use as anal hook something that is not intended as sex toy. In addition to that, it would be hard or even impossible to tell apart hooks intended for this specific purpose, and improvised hooks used in same way. I feel this tag is more of a "what type of object goes where" tag than a specific kind of sex toy.

rupikonna said:
I think one issue could be that you can use as anal hook something that is not intended as sex toy. In addition to that, it would be hard or even impossible to tell apart hooks intended for this specific purpose, and improvised hooks used in same way. I feel this tag is more of a "what type of object goes where" tag than a specific kind of sex toy.

If this is the case then the wiki for it is incorrect. If a hook is improvised as an anal hook, then I don't see any reason to separate it from an anal hook, which either way should imply sex toy.

It is an interesting idea. On the one hand, an inserted anal hook is similar to a dildo or sex toy. So in that view it makes sense. And if it's not in use then it's just a hook so also no problem, I guess. And improvised hook-shape-thing-being-used-as-anal-play might get a little grey area but we'd probably just default back to "is being used as an anal hook?" + "is there any clear reason why it's not normally an anal hook and instead improvised? (like a hook hand)" etc and then tag according. So up to that point, this suggestion seems like it might work.

However, anal hooks are also heavily used for bondage purposes, and in those cases it is not always for sexual stimulation purposes. So in many ways, they are as much of a sex toy as a ballgag would be. It technically stimulates by being there and it's sexual... but the purpose is bondage and not to generate arousal directly from the object's use. And while I know some people would throw both gags and hooks into their adult toy drawer... there are also a lot of other adult bedroom tools that are not actually what we use 'sex toy' for. In those cases, it is more of a sex-adjacent equipment type of thing.

When looking at all of what is currently included under sex_toy, there is a very consistent picture of what is and what isn't. And I honestly feel like anal hooks can both be used in ways that fit that and also be used in ways that are more about bondage/restraint/duress instead. So I am not convinced that anal hooks always/automatically will fit how we use sex_toy specifically. I'd say that anal hooks are probably always a bdsm toy. But are not always being used as a sex toy, at least not the way we currently use it. So that's why I'm leaning towards "not always fits, and therefore no" for this. Even if my first reaction was 'sure!'. I think the instances that are being used as a sex toy can just be manually have the tag added, but it's not innate enough for an implication to always include it as a sex toy. /my two cents

furrypickle said:
It technically stimulates by being there and it's sexual... but the purpose is bondage and not to generate arousal directly from the object's use

Would buttplug not fit that description? Not in a bondage sense, but a buttplug is just an anal hook without the hook part.

Simplified example:
post #3727949 post #4441761

The only actual difference here really is that an anal hook extends past the base. If anything

imply anal_hook -> buttplug

might be a better target since an anal hook is by definition a buttplug, but then it implies sex toy through implications anyways.

Reminder for what buttplug's wiki states:

A sex toy specifically designed to be inserted into the anus.

That sounds like an anal hook to me.

tarrgon said:
Would buttplug not fit that description? Not in a bondage sense, but a buttplug is just an anal hook without the hook part.

Simplified example:
post #3727949 post #4441761

The only actual difference here really is that an anal hook extends past the base. If anything

imply anal_hook -> buttplug

might be a better target since an anal hook is by definition a buttplug, but then it implies sex toy through implications anyways.

Reminder for what buttplug's wiki states:
That sounds like an anal hook to me.

bear in mind there are anal hooks that do not have any sort of plug end, both tailor made for bdsm and improvised. for example the hook visible on the floor here: https://e621.net/posts/996600 clearly a tailor made bdsm anal hook, but the end is just a blunt metal rod.

the text on buttplug wiki also states:

The shape of the toy makes it difficult for the plug to be accidentally dislodged

which any straight walled anal hook does not fit the definition of, since it's not self-retaining. in the same way that a dildo held in place with underwear doesn't count as a plug.

personally, I feel the existence of improvised_sex_toy implies that anything solid made to be inserted anally for non-medical reasons counts as a sex toy, since any random object used that way would be classified as one (improvised_sex_toy is listed under 'types of sex toys' on the sex_toy wiki page). I can't see how a blunt metal rod inserted anally would count as a sex toy but that same rod bent into the shape of a hook would not.

This is like electrode tags all over again. Yeah, it's why there's tags like *_in_anus.
Clit suction toy and whatever the name for the thing in post #2255001 are actually specific designs/functions, but most of them are not specific. 99% of dildo vibrator posts feature the less specific shapes.