I just don't feel confident uploading to e6 anymore because I feel like most of my art won't get approved anyway despite trying my best to meet the minimum standard guidelines. It's just not working for me. I'm not trying to imply that my art is bad or any better than everyone else. I just find it hard to get accepted into this community because of the absurdly high minimum it takes to post my art here. I'm a small artist who wants to get recognized. I'm not trying to start any drama or commotion here. I just need help knowing what artistic needs are met because I'm a poor art judge and I can't really accurately measure how defined my art is. Any advice would be appreciated and lovely. Any insults or lashing out will just be ignored and ridiculed.

By uploading here with the intent of getting recognition, you are pitting yourself against every other artist in a battle of who can get the most attention and score.
As such, the same "absurdly high minimum" standards that people expect from other artists also fall onto your artwork.

My advice? Just upload on a regular art gallery without worrying about attaining high scores or having exposure.
The moment you make it a competition, you have set yourself up where drawing artwork is no longer a hobby.

Honestly I think personal gallery sites such as furaffinity would be better option for you.

rupikonna said:
Honestly I think personal gallery sites such as furaffinity would be better option for you.

I think you're quite right.

I think if you can draw like Taran Fiddler that will be enough. Notice that he draws not perfect highly detailed pictures and without using NSFW scenes at all (so it will be rated much less), but still have positive rating
https://e621.net/posts?tags=taran_fiddler

yetanotheraiuser said:
I think if you can draw like Taran Fiddler that will be enough. Notice that he draws not perfect highly detailed pictures and without using NSFW scenes at all (so it will be rated much less), but still have positive rating
https://e621.net/posts?tags=taran_fiddler

??? Yeah i mean obviously that art is way above minimum quality, not sure why you’d come into a forum thread by a beginner artist who’s having issues and show them a highly skilled artist with years of work under their belt and go “if you can draw like this that will be enough”.

spread your work across other platforms. furaffinity is particularly suited site for your content (as well as its other competitors like sofurry) but you can also upload on bluesky/twitter (you got to be more frenzy with tagging there).
not sure about deviantart since it's slightly restrictive when it comes to pornography.

when your 3d techniques and skills improve drastically, feel free to upload here with confidence. check other 3d artists like eupharrow going from their first post to their later works, if anything's inspirational.

Took me a while and a whole lot of rejections to get used to as well, but trust me, when you HAVE learned and practiced enough that you can be reasonably confident your artwork will be approved, that is a gigantic milestone in your artistic journey. It's what finally made me think "Maybe trying ISN'T quite so pointless after all".

yetanotheraiuser said:
I think if you can draw like Taran Fiddler that will be enough. Notice that he draws not perfect highly detailed pictures and without using NSFW scenes at all (so it will be rated much less), but still have positive rating
https://e621.net/posts?tags=taran_fiddler

...How is this at all helpful? Taran is not a low bar to reach, he borders on being a grandmaster.

This site features some of the best artworks in the furry fandom, but they all took years to get to where they are. Some of them have been drawing professionally for over a decade so its not a good idea to see it as a "competition". You start elsewhere, keep improving, and eventually get spots here.

At the same time, I do miss certain artworks that used to be here, such as foxes in love :p Sometimes to find good furry artwork you have to use other sites regardless as not everything is here. So you do still find many furries using other artwork sites that you can try and grab the attention of, good luck!

yetanotheraiuser said:
I think if you can draw like Taran Fiddler that will be enough. Notice that he draws not perfect highly detailed pictures and without using NSFW scenes at all (so it will be rated much less), but still have positive rating
https://e621.net/posts?tags=taran_fiddler

That is like some of the best art I've seen drawn here, and they started drawing like that over 5 years ago. I'd not suggest that be the bar.

yetanotheraiuser said:
I think if you can draw like Taran Fiddler that will be enough. Notice that he draws not perfect highly detailed pictures and without using NSFW scenes at all (so it will be rated much less), but still have positive rating
https://e621.net/posts?tags=taran_fiddler

Is this sarcasm, poorly thought out comment, or do you just have questionable idea of art skill levels, and what kind of skill goes to reaching this kind of level of art? Because I honestly cannot tell. Either way, showing to a beginner artist some professional level art that takes often decades to reach, and telling them that to be good enough, all they have to do is to reach that level is... certainly a choice.

There's two things to remember when making art.

First, you need to remember the immortal words of Yogi Berra when asked on how to get to Carnegie Hall. "Practice, practice, practice." No artist started out at masterpiece levels, not even Taran Fiddler. They took what they had and developed it over time through lots of practice.

Second, you need to also remember a quote by Chuck Jones from when he taught junior animators. "Every artist has thousands of bad drawings in them, and the only way to get rid of them is to draw them out." This is what practice does. Every artist had to start with a lot of bad drawings in them. The difference between Taran Fiddler (Rembrandt, Don Rosa, da Vinci, Dark Natasha, Ratte, whoever your favorite master artist is) and the rest of us is how many of those bad drawings have been gotten rid of. Practice allows us to learn and hone our art skills, thus getting rid of those bad drawings. Keep at it, though, because it's not going to happen overnight.

rupikonna said:
Is this sarcasm, poorly thought out comment, or do you just have questionable idea of art skill levels, and what kind of skill goes to reaching this kind of level of art? Because I honestly cannot tell. Either way, showing to a beginner artist some professional level art that takes often decades to reach, and telling them that to be good enough, all they have to do is to reach that level is... certainly a choice.

You can notice on PC monitor that pictures from Taran Fiddler looks blurry and absent the details. But that compensated by interesting artistic draw style, so I don't care about the level of detail. That I mean.

yetanotheraiuser said:
You can notice on PC monitor that pictures from Taran Fiddler looks blurry and absent the details. But that compensated by interesting artistic draw style, so I don't care about the level of detail. That I mean.

They're quote unquote "blurry and absent the details" because he's a painter who works in broad strokes. It's impressionistic, he does it on purpose. Like, that's genuinely his style, not a lack of skill.

(Though funnily enough, the great Impressionists' contemporaries would agree with you. Hell, it was someone making similar criticisms as yourself that coined the term "Impressionism" in the first place.)

yetanotheraiuser said:
You can notice on PC monitor that pictures from Taran Fiddler looks blurry and absent the details. But that compensated by interesting artistic draw style, so I don't care about the level of detail. That I mean.

This answers my question lol.
You have extremely questionable perception of art skill and quality.

Never planed to make too much noise about me. Okay, I got it about too rough advice. Anyway no one likes pictures that looks like childhood drawings and after the rise of forbidden technology where e621 transferred later such cursed souless generated pictures to another site, newbie artist have really a huge problem if they can't draw better than childhood draws. That techology fully protects you from too simple looking pictures and costs much less times and effort. So you have much less chances that someone will look to your hand made pictures if you can't actually draw good or find intresting artistic style. Sad, but true. Also my brain works mostly technically (left-brain thinkers) so I can't draw by definition. But that side actually combines good to use that forbidden cursed technology, so I actually know what I say about huge problems for newbie real art artists without good draw skills.

Another intresting thought. Even when I was too rough with an example of super highly professional artist, notice his low positive rating here even for such artist. Prepare for that too in this site if you don't do NSFW or current trends. So you draw because you trully like it, not because you want to prove someone.

yetanotheraiuser said: Never planed make too much noise about me. Okay, I got it about too rough advice. Anyway no one likes pictures that looks like childhood drawings and after the rise of forbidden technology where e621 transferred later such cursed souless generated pictures to another site, newbie artist have really a huge problem if they can't draw better than childhood draws. That techology fully protects you from too simple looking pictures and costs much less times and effort. So you have much less chances that someone will look to your hand made pictures if you can't actually draw good or find intresting artistic style. Sad, but true. Also my brain mostly technically (left-brain thinkers) so I can't draw by definition. But that side actually combines good to use forbidden cursed technology, so I actually know what I say about huge problems for newbie real art artists without good draw skills.

D'hr... the idea that someone can be a "left-brain thinker" or "right-brain thinker" was debunked decades ago. If you don't like to draw or consider it not worth the (admittedly titanic and usually fruitless) effort, that's one thing, but don't pin it on factors you can't control. Technical thinking is not a friggin' disability.

Not to mention that you think technical thinking is antithetical to artistic skill shows just how little you understand what actually goes into art. Even that "forbidden technology" should show you how nonsensical that assertion is, considering it works entirely on probability and making connections. Really, the more abstract and emotional side of that technology is the prompting; you have to be creative with your prompts in order to get desirable results. If you try to be straightforward, that's when you get a mess. As the saying goes, "a computer is a fast idiot".

yetanotheraiuser said: Another intresting thought. Even when I was too rough with an example of super highly professional artist, notice his low positive rating here even for such artist. Prepare for that too in this site if you don't do NSFW or trends. So you draw because you trully like it, not because you want to prove someone.

That point, I will concede to. Especially the "current trends" bit. My most successful picture is an Amazing Digital Circus pic that was drawn shortly after the first episode that I'm not even terribly proud of, and I really hate how it's apparently my peak.

lendrimujina said:
D'hr... the idea that someone can be a "left-brain thinker" or "right-brain thinker" was debunked decades ago. If you don't like to draw or consider it not worth the (admittedly titanic and usually fruitless) effort, that's one thing, but don't pin it on factors you can't control. Technical thinking is not a friggin' disability.

100% agree. But also, YetAnotherAIUser, have you heard of technical/scientific illustration??