Topic: Slim/skinny gender & species tree

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #9643 is pending approval.

create implication slim_female (2484) -> slim (30350)
create implication slim_female (2484) -> female (2586145)
create implication skinny_female (1363) -> skinny (7848)
create implication skinny_female (1363) -> female (2586145)
create implication slim_male (5146) -> slim (30350)
create implication slim_male (5146) -> male (2546632)
create implication skinny_male (1123) -> skinny (7848)
create implication skinny_male (1123) -> male (2546632)
create implication slim_ambiguous (110) -> slim (30350)
create implication slim_ambiguous (110) -> ambiguous_gender (317759)
create implication skinny_ambiguous (15) -> skinny (7848)
create implication skinny_ambiguous (15) -> ambiguous_gender (317759)

Reason: I'm surprised this didn't exist already. (Will make more quickly.)

EDIT: I'll change all the ones I made on this thread if skinny and slim get aliased.

Updated

The bulk update request #9644 is pending approval.

create implication slim_intersex (16) -> slim (30350)
create implication slim_intersex (16) -> intersex (250425)
create implication skinny_intersex (22) -> skinny (7848)
create implication skinny_intersex (22) -> intersex (250425)
create implication slim_andromorph (47) -> slim_intersex (16)
create implication slim_andromorph (47) -> andromorph (23920)
create implication skinny_andromorph (4) -> skinny_intersex (22)
create implication skinny_andromorph (4) -> andromorph (23920)
create implication slim_gynomorph (18) -> slim_intersex (16)
create implication slim_gynomorph (18) -> gynomorph (196918)
create implication skinny_gynomorph (30) -> skinny_intersex (22)
create implication skinny_gynomorph (30) -> gynomorph (196918)
create implication slim_herm (3) -> slim_intersex (16)
create implication slim_herm (3) -> herm (27760)
create implication skinny_herm (1) -> skinny_intersex (22)
create implication skinny_herm (1) -> herm (27760)
create implication slim_maleherm (5) -> slim_intersex (16)
create implication slim_maleherm (5) -> maleherm (4592)
create implication skinny_maleherm (0) -> skinny_intersex (22)
create implication skinny_maleherm (0) -> maleherm (4592)

Reason: Intersex version of the above.

regsmutt said:
What is the difference between slim and skinny? I'm not seeing much.

Honestly I'm just keeping up with current standards. I don't know either

The bulk update request #9645 is pending approval.

create implication slim_anthro (5090) -> slim (30350)
create implication slim_anthro (5090) -> anthro (3390078)
create implication skinny_anthro (849) -> skinny (7848)
create implication skinny_anthro (849) -> anthro (3390078)
create implication slim_humanoid (547) -> slim (30350)
create implication slim_humanoid (547) -> humanoid (457130)
create implication skinny_humanoid (136) -> skinny (7848)
create implication skinny_humanoid (136) -> humanoid (457130)
create implication slim_human (205) -> slim (30350)
create implication slim_human (205) -> human (378538)
create implication skinny_human (47) -> skinny (7848)
create implication skinny_human (47) -> human (378538)
create implication slim_taur (5) -> slim (30350)
create implication slim_taur (5) -> taur (18692)
create implication skinny_taur (0) -> skinny (7848)
create implication skinny_taur (0) -> taur (18692)
create implication slim_feral (30) -> slim (30350)
create implication slim_feral (30) -> feral (625460)
create implication skinny_feral (5) -> skinny (7848)
create implication skinny_feral (5) -> feral (625460)

Reason: Species version of the above.

regsmutt said:
Perhaps they should be aliased together?

They probably should, but I'm not going to be the one to rock the boat. Someone more experienced can do that.

1eyed-rosd said:
They probably should, but I'm not going to be the one to rock the boat. Someone more experienced can do that.

slim has the aliases, one of which you've made for it, so aliasing towards t seems like a good idea.

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create implication emaciated_female (0) -> emaciated (492)
create implication emaciated_female (0) -> female (2586145)
create implication emaciated_male (0) -> emaciated (492)
create implication emaciated_male (0) -> male (2546632)
create implication emaciated_ambiguous (0) -> emaciated (492)
create implication emaciated_ambiguous (0) -> ambiguous_gender (317759)
create implication emaciated_intersex (0) -> emaciated (492)
create implication emaciated_intersex (0) -> intersex (250425)
create implication emaciated_andromorph (0) -> emaciated_intersex (0)
create implication emaciated_andromorph (0) -> andromorph (23920)
create implication emaciated_gynomorph (0) -> emaciated_intersex (0)
create implication emaciated_gynomorph (0) -> gynomorph (196918)
create implication emaciated_herm (0) -> emaciated_intersex (0)
create implication emaciated_herm (0) -> herm (27760)
create implication emaciated_maleherm (0) -> emaciated_intersex (0)
create implication emaciated_maleherm (0) -> maleherm (4592)
create implication emaciated_anthro (0) -> emaciated (492)
create implication emaciated_anthro (0) -> anthro (3390078)
create implication emaciated_humanoid (0) -> emaciated (492)
create implication emaciated_humanoid (0) -> humanoid (457130)
create implication emaciated_taur (0) -> emaciated (492)
create implication emaciated_taur (0) -> taur (18692)
create implication emaciated_feral (0) -> emaciated (492)
create implication emaciated_feral (0) -> feral (625460)

Reason: Emaciated version of the above.

snpthecat said:
slim has the aliases, one of which you've made for it, so aliasing towards t seems like a good idea.

I might have to change half of what I made here, but that's a good idea.

Similar to the specifications of wide_hips referenced here topic #44287 and here topic #45538 , I also argue there should be no gender or bodyform specification for slim, emaciated and skinny. They should all be aliased to their parent tags(slim, emaciated, skinny).

Also there is some debate whether or not slim and skinny are meaningfully different, I personally do say there is a difference but it can be visually very slim(no pun intended).

I disagree. While I understand that we shouldn't have a tag for every combination of features a character/object for practical reasons, there is clearly demand to specify characters with a specific gender/figure combinations. As these are incredibly intertwined for specific appeal.

If you disagree, please make your own BURs. You can even put them in this thread if you want. (By putting the thread's ID (47227) in the "form topic" section.) I can't stop you.

snpthecat said:
Are you also arguing there should be no gender/form specification for slightly chubby, and the overweight tags/subtags?

I use and feel like the 'weight_gender' tags are rather useful. Also variants for skinnier than normal characters should be fine too.

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