Topic: De-alias: Duo -> couple

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

So I discovered that duo is aliased to couple, even though the wiki, even before I edited it today, has for a while now said that it's for romantically engaged pairs, not just any old pair. I'm willing to bet that a big reason so many images are tagged couple when they shouldn't be, is this alias right here.

Duo was suggested for use over in the other thread anyway, so I think we should go ahead and do this. Otherwise a lot of what I'm doing is going to be undone, I think.

Aww crap, I accidentally put this in General. Sorry gaiz :-/

Updated by Granberia

I support this notion, it would help to distinguish the two discussed tag usages and it serves a good and clear purpose

Updated by anonymous

I'm going to wait for a decision on this one way or the other before I continue with the couple editing, so that I can switch it to duo or not, depending. However, I'd like to bring in the reasons from the other thread.

We have solo and group for general number of characters tags, separate from sexual tags like threesome and orgy. I think it's reasonable to have one more step, in the form of duo. That way we can have tags for one, two, many.

Updated by anonymous

there is also a really well respected artist named Duo. Used to be a friend.. Oh well XD

Updated by anonymous

romantically engaged pairs, not just any old pair.

Batman x Robin
.........

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Mario583 said:
romantically engaged pairs, not just any old pair.

Batman x Robin
.........

What?

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Mario583 said:
romantically engaged pairs, not just any old pair.

Batman x Robin
.........

RedOctober said:
What?

The Dynamic Duo, of course.

Updated by anonymous

Well yes, I just didn't know if Mario intended that to be some sort of argument for or against this, and it just didn't make sense. Eh.

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ippiki_ookami said:
Go ahead.

:s Does this mean the unalias is approved?

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I have two questions about how duo tag (and others about quantity) should be used.

1. How to count characters on comic? Sum of characters in all panels, even if panels have no connection at all? Panel with highest number of character?

2. What count as a character? I know tentacles doesn't but how about this picture:
post #250936
is this duo or solo? And how about feral bugs? Feral little birds?

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I think that if there are two beings that can interact, that would count as a duo, feral or otherwise. As for comics, I don't think that any group type tag would apply, just being tagged "comic" implies that there will be multiple characters. Though perhaps if it's just a one panel excerpt, or similar, then apply the appropriate group style tag. Though that may be a bit of a gray area.

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anomaly said:
2. What count as a character? I know tentacles doesn't but how about this picture:
post #250936
is this duo or solo? And how about feral bugs? Feral little birds?

Trio. Pinkie Pie, Pinkamena and Madame L'Flour. Kidding, it's a solo, since Pinkie is the only character present, as far as I can tell 9_9
For bugs, the image must contain a black-feathered duck to be tagged as "duo" heh, not really, if a bug is not the main character it shouldn't be taken into account
And for birds, the same thing what I said about bugs.

edidaf said:
I think that if there are two beings that can interact, that would count as a duo, feral or otherwise. As for comics, I don't think that any group type tag would apply, just being tagged "comic" implies that there will be multiple characters. Though perhaps if it's just a one panel excerpt, or similar, then apply the appropriate group style tag. Though that may be a bit of a gray area.

Comic should be the exception of this rule, even for single panels. Like you said "...comic implies that there will be multiple characters."

"Duo" could be used for characters that are cooperating/helping eachother and "couple" for romantically (or "one-night-stand") characters

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edidaf said:
just being tagged "comic" implies that there will be multiple characters.

Not really.
post #242892

Xch3l said:
"Duo" could be used for characters that are cooperating/helping eachother and "couple" for romantically (or "one-night-stand") characters

If I understand correctly this thread and forum #46269 duo is meant to be about quantity and quantity only, and couple is definitely not for "one-night-stand".

About being main character to be count as a person. I see a two potential problems.

1. For one person, some feral animal would be just a background, for other it would be important character to the pictue.

2. It's not really consistent with rule that tentacles doesn't count as a person. Tentacles are generally one of main things in picture. As far as I remember there was explanation that tentacles are more like toys, than sentient beings, so I thought that maybe line should be placed in this aspect. For example, only feral vertebrates would be characters, or something.

But I'm not sure about my idea either.

Updated by anonymous

Quantity only indeed.

I'm not going to weigh in on what's a character and what's background for now, that's a discussion that's happened before and will continue happening, no matter how many times a consensus is reached. I'm not sure where I stand on the matter myself.

As for comics, if there is gay sex in one panel, but straight sex in another, the whole image thus gets gay and straight tags. If a panel contains one character while another panel contains two, it then gets both the solo and duo.

ippiki_ookami said:
Go ahead.

Muchas gracias

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RedOctober said:
As for comics, if there is gay sex in one panel, but straight sex in another, the whole image thus gets gay and straight tags. If a panel contains one character while another panel contains two, it then gets both the solo and duo.

Well, first statement does not imply second statement. I see (at least) two interpretation.

Firstly, let's get some example of comic page, like
post #255542
or
post #121808

1. (Yours) Post contains multiple images. Each panel is a single image, and post should have sum of tags of the images. For example on first comic strip there are 5 panels with two characters, and 2 panels with 1 character, therefore in sum there would be both solo and duo tags. On second comic strip there is one image with straight tag, and one image with gay tag, therefore in sum there would be both gay and straight.

2. Post in one picture with multiple panels. So, on first comic there are two different characters, so it should get only a duo tag, and on second comic there is both straight sex act, and gay sex act, so it should get straight and gay tag.

The problem with first interpretation is that in post #148200 every panel is solo, therefore there should not be duo tag, nor sisters tag, and it's really counterintuitive, for someone who search for this particular pic. Also I think that it would be good, when solo, duo, and group would be mutually exclusive.

The problem with second approach is that despite what comic wiki says, having multiple panels does not imply sequential story. And with several panels of solo characters loosely connected to each other it sounds stupid to tag it group.

Whatever option would be chosen it should be added to comic wiki, I think that not only me find tagging comics little unintuitive and rules about it should be situated in one place, not in different forum threads.

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