Hi, I've been using the site for a while now, but I've noticed a few things that make enjoying how it works VERY DIFFICULT. The main of these being how so many tags are grouped into things when, in reality, they shouldn't be. The best examples of this I can give are "Futa" being grouped under various forms of "Intersex" and "Pedophilia" being grouped under "Young". I am a person who is not attracted to Futa art, not is it something I want to see, so I attempted to blacklist it. Instead, Intersex as a whole was blacklisted. I do not mind art of intersex characters, I'm actually very happy when I see it since it's representation for those people, but having it linked under Futa is just plain WRONG. Futas are a fetish, something for people who are attracted to both breasts and dicks being on the same person, this and intersex are NOT the same thing. As for the pedophilia and young situation, I won't sugarcoat it, that's just plain idiotic. I don't mind seeing art of young characters in general, but I do not want to see art of pedophilia as it disgusts me. When I attempted to blacklist "Pedophilia", I was appalled to see that I COULDN'T and could only blacklist "young" as a general term. This is disgusting, and a horrible way of having a tag system.

So, here's my suggestion, SEPARATE TAGS!!! I understand that implications are meant to be helpful to others and make tagging easier, but when everyone on the site is allowed to edit other people's posts, that seems pretty unnecessary. The person creating the post could tag it as "Wolf" because there is a wolf character. After posting, someone else could add the "Canine" tag to widen the audience, there's no need to group tags together when, clearly, they just group the wrong things together in the end. Again, "Futa" being linked with "Intersex" and "Pedophilia" being linked with "Young".

Here's a secondary suggestion that's also related to tags. While this is not an attack on moderators, it's an issue I've seen multiple times. Stop letting Mods tag posts as "Young" just because a character in the post is small. The easiest example I can provide is Pokemon. Just because a Pokemon is first stage, does NOT mean said Pokemon is young. Everstones exist and do not allow Pokemon to evolve when holding one, as seen in both the games AND the shows, and many Pokemon can just outright refuse to evolve, again, seen in both the games and she shows. Tagging a post as "Young" just because it has a Shinx in it makes no sense, as that Shinx could very well be a grown adult who simply refused to evolve or held an everstone. Also, if we're taking realism into account here, which we're likely not but just in case, animals do not have visible reproductive parts in their youth, which if implemented into Pokemon, means that any Pokemon with visible genitalia is an adult. AKA, unless the Pokemon has the smallest genitals in the world, there's no reason to tag posts involving them as "young".

To whoever receives and reads this, thank you very much for taking the time to do so. I apologize if I began to ramble a few times in the paragraphs above, but these things have been irritating me and many others or quite some time now, so I wanted to make my words as clear as possible. Thank you, and I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day/night.

dorian-finch said:
Here's a secondary suggestion that's also related to tags. While this is not an attack on moderators, it's an issue I've seen multiple times. Stop letting Mods tag posts as "Young" just because a character in the post is small. The easiest example I can provide is Pokemon. Just because a Pokemon is first stage, does NOT mean said Pokemon is young. Everstones exist and do not allow Pokemon to evolve when holding one, as seen in both the games AND the shows, and many Pokemon can just outright refuse to evolve, again, seen in both the games and she shows. Tagging a post as "Young" just because it has a Shinx in it makes no sense, as that Shinx could very well be a grown adult who simply refused to evolve or held an everstone. Also, if we're taking realism into account here, which we're likely not but just in case, animals do not have visible reproductive parts in their youth, which if implemented into Pokemon, means that any Pokemon with visible genitalia is an adult. AKA, unless the Pokemon has the smallest genitals in the world, there's no reason to tag posts involving them as "young".

Lore does not matter when it comes to general tags. If it looks young, it should be tagged as such. See twys.

There are multiple tags, they're just not immediately apparent. Checking the wiki for the tag that's problematic (e.g. futa, which then links to intersex) will more often than not lead you to the tag you desire.

From the wiki you can see the intersex tag is broken down into 4 subtags which can be individually blacklisted:

• intersex
• andromorph
• gynomorph
• herm
• maleherm

I believe pedophilia was just aliased to young because nobody was ever tagging it correctly in the first place, just haphazardly tagging it on any young character. The tag you're probably looking for here is adult_on_young or adult_raping_young.

There are (broadly) tags for what you're looking for. Women with penises are tagged gynomorph. Futa got used for a variety of things with no real consistent definition. Herm is supposed to be used for women with both penises and vaginas, but it's about 50% gynomorphs because many people have their own definition of the term.

Pedophilia isn't a tag because it's hard to define in a way that's appropriate for e6's purposes. If you want to blacklist most sexualized young characters try adding young -rating:general on one line to your blacklist.

As for small pokemon- if it looks young it's tagged young. If it looks young but is canonically an adult it's tagged young, but an adult_(lore) tag can be added. It's how tag what you see works.

dorian-finch said:
So, here's my suggestion, SEPARATE TAGS!!! I understand that implications are meant to be helpful to others and make tagging easier, but when everyone on the site is allowed to edit other people's posts, that seems pretty unnecessary. The person creating the post could tag it as "Wolf" because there is a wolf character. After posting, someone else could add the "Canine" tag to widen the audience, there's no need to group tags together when, clearly, they just group the wrong things together in the end. Again, "Futa" being linked with "Intersex" and "Pedophilia" being linked with "Young".

It's a bit confusing at first glance but there are other tags you can blacklist that the others typically covered, but were aliased away due to misuse/vaguity. "Futa" was commonly used to describe both herm and gynomorph, which are different body forms. You can blacklist both of those if you dislike them. Visually there's really no difference between "futa" and "gynomorph"/"lady with a dick", which this site describes as intersex.

dorian-finch said:
Hi, I've been using the site for a while now, but I've noticed a few things that make enjoying how it works VERY DIFFICULT. The main of these being how so many tags are grouped into things when, in reality, they shouldn't be. The best examples of this I can give are "Futa" being grouped under various forms of "Intersex" and "Pedophilia" being grouped under "Young". I am a person who is not attracted to Futa art, not is it something I want to see, so I attempted to blacklist it. Instead, Intersex as a whole was blacklisted. I do not mind art of intersex characters, I'm actually very happy when I see it since it's representation for those people, but having it linked under Futa is just plain WRONG. Futas are a fetish, something for people who are attracted to both breasts and dicks being on the same person, this and intersex are NOT the same thing.

futa is aliased to intersex because it's the closest adjacent valid tag to how people tend to add the tag to posts. (technically it'd be more accurate to the actual word's definition to alias it to herm but people don't actually know what the word means, and end up adding it to gynomorphs, so...)

I'm not really sure what you think the definition of "futa" is or what the definition of intersex is that leads you have a problem with the two being conflated. what you're saying seems like a very vibes-based differentiation which would be impossible to tag coherently, especially when I'm not sure there are many who would agree with you on that.

dorian-finch said:
As for the pedophilia and young situation, I won't sugarcoat it, that's just plain idiotic. I don't mind seeing art of young characters in general, but I do not want to see art of pedophilia as it disgusts me. When I attempted to blacklist "Pedophilia", I was appalled to see that I COULDN'T and could only blacklist "young" as a general term. This is disgusting, and a horrible way of having a tag system.

this is another case of aliased to the closest adjacent tag, no one can really agree with what what would and wouldn't fit.

if it's just all non-safe pictures of young characters you have problems woth than blacklisting young -rating:s should suffice. if you're fine seeing, like, just teenage characters you could try adding these lines to your blacklist:

young -adolescent
child
toddler
baby

dorian-finch said:
...This is disgusting, and a horrible way of having a tag system.

So, here's my suggestion, SEPARATE TAGS!!!...

These type of comments make me think you have never bothered to look into how tagging works.
Learn how tag aliases & implications work and check the tag wiki for the various subtags available for your searches/blacklist (e.g., inflation), before complaining about it.

Your suggestion is even more horrible since people don't always tag in detail.
Removing the wolf -> canine implication will break everybody's blacklist who don't want to see any canine stuff, and that is only for one tag.

Again, "Futa" being linked with "Intersex" and "Pedophilia" being linked with "Young".

Tag aliases mean that the tag getting aliased away ceases to exist as a valid tag. That means you shouldn't be really using them in your blacklist.

Futa literally means having "two sets" of male & female genitals.
Since people outside of e6 use this term on any character with a mix of primary and secondary sexual characteristics from both sexes, it is aliased to intersex instead (which is the umbrella term for all of these variations).
If you want the popularly-referred-to variation of futanari, blacklist herm instead (which is female body with male & female genitals).

On the other note, pedophilia means sexual attraction to underaged characters, but it is often abused and tagged in every post that has a young character in remotely questionable situations.
Since we do not have a singular "sexualised young" tag, it is aliased directly to young instead. This, of course, has the unintended consequence of lumping everything together with non-sexual posts.

However, this shouldn't be an issue for most users who want to blacklist sexualised posts since the blacklist has young -rating:s included by default.
If you don't want to see those kind of things, you should be using young -rating:s instead of pedophilia in your blacklist.
Alternatively, you can include loli and shota (sexualised young female & male) into your blacklist, but it does not guarantee total coverage like young -rating:s.

Here's a secondary suggestion that's also related to tags. While this is not an attack on moderators, it's an issue I've seen multiple times. Stop letting Mods tag posts as "Young" just because a character in the post is small.

Tag lock means that people have been going back-and-forth on a specific tag and no consensus could be reached (i.e., a tag war).
Mods step in to make a final ruling to stop people from quarrelling, basing their judgement on the Tag What You See policy.
If it is locked, it stays locked. Only in very rare circumstances, the tag lock gets reverted following a second review.

The easiest example I can provide is Pokemon. Just because a Pokemon is first stage, does NOT mean said Pokemon is young. Everstones exist and do not allow Pokemon to evolve when holding one, as seen in both the games AND the shows, and many Pokemon can just outright refuse to evolve, again, seen in both the games and she shows. Tagging a post as "Young" just because it has a Shinx in it makes no sense, as that Shinx could very well be a grown adult who simply refused to evolve or held an everstone. Also, if we're taking realism into account here, which we're likely not but just in case, animals do not have visible reproductive parts in their youth, which if implemented into Pokemon, means that any Pokemon with visible genitalia is an adult. AKA, unless the Pokemon has the smallest genitals in the world, there's no reason to tag posts involving them as "young".

Lore and canon have zero standing on how tagging is done.

If it looks young, it gets tagged young. Simple as that.
To appease people who argue "but the character is canonically XYZ age", we have young_(lore) and adult_(lore) for additional context and blacklisting purposes.