I've been thinking creatively recently. It has to do with settings. Primarily, how exactly would a world inhabited by anthro-creatures of varying sort look/work like?

Obviously, artists don't usually pay much mind to this and just make their setting presumably exactly like our world. And that's fine, of course. Provided the setting isn't all that important in the first place.

But when I really get down to it, it really doesn't feel appropriate to me. The way relationships, sex/gender, sexuality etc. are handled in furry works, I feel that hypothetical world would end up a little something like Brave New World, except perhaps less dystopic. Some sort of metaphysical, postmodern utopia where the concept of commitment is alien, everyone expresses perfect physical and sexual liberty and responsibility is unheard of.

This might all be some sort of gigantic personal wish fulfillment fantasy. (The world is an orgy and you're invited, or something..?) But I can't really see it go any other way, if one was to look at the general mentality of what the fandom is going for, and construct a hypothetical setting based on that.

Of course, there's no single definition of what it should be like. Each artist has wildly varying visions. Hell, some have constructed fantasy worlds sophisticated enough to rival those made up by high-ranking fantasy and sci-fi writers.

Am I running in circles around myself rambling, or am I onto something? And what is your ideal "world of furries"? How crazy would you be willing to let a setting be?

Well if antros existed. I believe the world would still be very similar to our current one an anthro animal is supposed to have strong human traits, and morals. So yeah pretty much the same.

Is it weird that I was thinking the exact same thing?

TheHuskyK9 said:
Is it weird that I was thinking the exact same thing?

Great minds think alike? :3

Well, currently, my biggest agreement here is that the furry fandom community does revolve around, and let's be honest here... massive orgies. Any furry enthusiast can tell you that, when you go to a furry party, everyone is there to have /fun/ and /do the do/, so to speak. It might not be like that in every one, but most, as we can safely assume. After all, animals have sex habitually, and humans have sex recreationally. When you put two and two together, you get an anthro. And of course, that would lead to a Casual Sex universe. In my opinion, that's what it comes down to. Post-modern, casual sex, no strings attached, great fun all the time, no need for laws, etc. Because think about it.

Animals have their own instinctive understanding of 'the law', as do humans. Not everyone is a law abiding citizen, but one thing is for sure. Animals know what the fuck to do, and when to do it. Mix that with the sentient ability to make decisions, and suddenly you have someone who knows exactly what to do and for what good reason. In an ideal anthropomorphic 'utopia', there would be no crimes. Just a whole lot of love, affection and fur. Er, I mean care.

So yeah. Basically a mixture between "whatever we have now" and "what it could be in the future with minor alterations" as well as "some crazy improbability called sex everywhere, sex all the time and sex because we damn well feel like fucking" more or less.

I mean we could go deep into the topic and say, "well, we can't hypothesize based on human habits, y'know, because furries don't exist."

Well, based on that theory, we don't have much to go on. In the end, did we, as humans, not bring them to life? Therefore, would they not be more or less just like us but in a more ideal, fuzzy, cuddly, lovable form? I think that about solves the issue of societal integrity and how things would inevitably turn out.

But for arguments sake, try to imagine someone who had the primary instincts of a primal, feral animal and the genetic make-up of said creature with the added anatomy of a human with the exclusion of visible skin and instead growing fur, the exclusion of stubbier teeth in place of [insert mouth structure and appropriate dental, if necessary]... etc.

As a whole, it's a very open-ended topic, but I think the general consensus is that it'd be the same, but a better place if we're to believe that the anthro's then would be every bit as fun-loving and orgy-loving as they are in the here and now.

TheHuskyK9 said:
Is it weird that I was thinking the exact same thing?

Perhaps it's just purely logical what one ends up with after assessing the general mentality and collected works of the fandom. One looks at all the examples provided, and declares: What else could it possibly be except this bizarre, dreamlike fantasy where life is one big porn flick?
I do have those kinds of dreams. But I repeat myself.
And before you ask, no, I'm not high. I'm always like this

ArdesCadaver said:
Perhaps it's just purely logical what one ends up with after assessing the general mentality and collected works of the fandom. One looks at all the examples provided, and declares: What else could it possibly be except this bizarre, dreamlike fantasy where life is one big porn flick?
I do have those kinds of dreams. But I repeat myself.
And before you ask, no, I'm not high. I'm always like this

No dude, we are like on the same vibe. We think exactly the same

I bet anthro cow steaks are delicious.

Halite said:
I bet anthro cow steaks are delicious.

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Maybe I'm just not privy to it, but I've never read any works of writing from the furry community "sophisticated enough to rival those made up by high-ranking fantasy and sci-fi writers,". We're talking Bradbury, Asimov, Tolkien, Lucas and George R.R. Martin here.

For most people, furries exist for one of three purposes, as purely a sexual fantasy/fetish (such as in my case).

As a hobby; a template with which to build writing/artistry skills.

Or as a sort of social cushion, a group to associate with to provide security and confidence in oneself. This has been the case with the furries/bronies that I have met in person; most of them were extremely awkward and were single-mindedly obsessed with furries/ponies, but like all people, they take comfort in "fitting in", and the furry fandom is more or less all-inclusive.

The way I see it, the "furry world" will always lack any sort of real depth or consistency because the furry fandom in general is based off of rather primal, basic instincts and feelings.

Dester said:
Maybe I'm just not privy to it, but I've never read any works of writing from the furry community "sophisticated enough to rival those made up by high-ranking fantasy and sci-fi writers,". We're talking Bradbury, Asimov, Tolkien, Lucas and George R.R. Martin here.

For most people, furries exist for one of two purposes, as purely a sexual fantasy/fetish (such as in my case). And/or a hobby/social device; a template with which to build writing/artistry skills, or perhaps as a medium/group to associate with to provide security and confidence in oneself. This was the case with the furries/bronies that I have met in person; most of them were extremely awkward and were single-mindedly obsessed with furries/ponies, but like all people, they take comfort in "fitting in", and the furry fandom is more or less all-inclusive.

The way I see it, the "furry world" will always lack any sort of real depth or consistency because the furry fandom in general is based off of rather primal, basic instincts and feelings.

I don't think the author would really be considered a part of the "furry community", but certainly this series is a furry type setting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwall

And is on par with any other fantasy or sci-fi author, I used to read the series when I was younger, it is quite well written.

Halite said:
I don't think the author would really be considered a part of the "furry community", but certainly this series is a furry type setting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwall

And is on par with any other fantasy or sci-fi author, I used to read the series when I was younger, it is quite well written.

Ahh, of course, I was just assuming he was talking about the modern, online "furry community".

Dester said:
Ahh, of course, I was just assuming he was talking about the modern, online "furry community".

I would imagine so, but I still felt it worth mentioning.
After all, the furry community wouldn't exist without the imagination of artists and authors like him, Disney, etc. that are "main stream".

The way I see it, the reason a lot of those people aren't considered a part of the "community" is just because of timing.
They were around before it became a significant sub-culture.

Shaye said:
Well, currently, my biggest agreement here is that the furry fandom community does revolve around, and let's be honest here... massive orgies. Any furry enthusiast can tell you that, when you go to a furry party, everyone is there to have /fun/ and /do the do/, so to speak. It might not be like that in every one, but most, as we can safely assume. After all, animals have sex habitually, and humans have sex recreationally. When you put two and two together, you get an anthro. And of course, that would lead to a Casual Sex universe. In my opinion, that's what it comes down to. Post-modern, casual sex, no strings attached, great fun all the time, no need for laws, etc. Because think about it.

Animals have their own instinctive understanding of 'the law', as do humans. Not everyone is a law abiding citizen, but one thing is for sure. Animals know what the fuck to do, and when to do it. Mix that with the sentient ability to make decisions, and suddenly you have someone who knows exactly what to do and for what good reason. In an ideal anthropomorphic 'utopia', there would be no crimes. Just a whole lot of love, affection and fur. Er, I mean care.

So yeah. Basically a mixture between "whatever we have now" and "what it could be in the future with minor alterations" as well as "some crazy improbability called sex everywhere, sex all the time and sex because we damn well feel like fucking" more or less.

I mean we could go deep into the topic and say, "well, we can't hypothesize based on human habits, y'know, because furries don't exist."

Well, based on that theory, we don't have much to go on. In the end, did we, as humans, not bring them to life? Therefore, would they not be more or less just like us but in a more ideal, fuzzy, cuddly, lovable form? I think that about solves the issue of societal integrity and how things would inevitably turn out.

But for arguments sake, try to imagine someone who had the primary instincts of a primal, feral animal and the genetic make-up of said creature with the added anatomy of a human with the exclusion of visible skin and instead growing fur, the exclusion of stubbier teeth in place of [insert mouth structure and appropriate dental, if necessary]... etc.

As a whole, it's a very open-ended topic, but I think the general consensus is that it'd be the same, but a better place if we're to believe that the anthro's then would be every bit as fun-loving and orgy-loving as they are in the here and now.

Your biggest agreement, according to whom? I don't understand the obsession with sex, however, this is primarily a 'porn' site, so maybe that attracts a large portion of sex-crazed individuals, I don't know.

You should realize that the community doesn't revolve around "orgies" because first off, the fandom was not formed based on sexual tendencies. I would fathom that it had much to do with popular culture, anthropomorphism, and preexisting thoughts. Sex, as you already know, is not exclusive to one group, so how could one group revolve around it (while it is assumed that others don't)?

For me, and many others, the fandom doesn't mean orgies. It means art, stories, anthropomorphic characters, and the like. Getting together at conventions and otherwise communicating with each other about our interests. Sex has not once casually crossed my mind when I think about my interests in the fandom and why I became a furry.

I think many of the biggest differences would come in the places you're least likely to think of (and not always sexually related).

For example, restrooms would have to cater to a variety of physiologies. I'd imagine a furry restroom would be pretty confusing and strange - you'd have something akin to litterboxes on the floors, toilets would have to be shaped to accomodate tails (not to mention the massive weight differences in varying types of anthros, from petite cats to massive horses or whatnot).

Another difference would be food - humans are omnivores and can eat just about anything, but your anthros are probably going to be more focused in their diets. A feline anthro would probably stick mostly to fish and fowl, a canine to red meat, and then your herbivorous anthros like horses, deer, or cows would be sustaining themselves on various forms of vegetation and fruit.

Vehicles would be designed differently as well - digitigrade legs would make it difficult to use the gas pedal system in a common car, or to ride a motorcycle designed for plantigrade legs. Vehicle size would vary greatly, due to the difference in body size for smaller anthros (like cats) vs larger anthros (like horses).

Furniture, as well, would have to accomodate for the changes in physiology - normal couches or chairs would not work well with tails, so you're more likely to see bar-stool type seating as a preference.

Due to the abundance of 'self cleaning' and the hatred of being submerged in water expressed by many types of animals, chances are that showers (and especially baths) would be less common in a furry universe than in our own. For anthros that need to remain moist, like sharks or frogs or aquatics, showers and pools would be a necessity. In fact, aquatic anthros that breathe through gills would probably have to wear some form of helmet or neck covering that keeps their gills wet and reoxygenates the water that it runs through them.

When it comes to sex, despite the 'humanized' traits, most anthros would not be capable of interbreeding. Dog DNA is not compatible with cat DNA, or horse DNA, or shark DNA. This means pregnancies would be far less common in an anthro universe, and only same-type anthros would be able to procreate successfully. That, coincidentally, would probably lead to a much more sexual society however, as an anthro could freely engage in sex with other types and have no fear of offspring being born (one night stands, in particular, would be so much more common than they are in our world, and that's saying a lot).

Orgies would not necessarily be how we always envision them or portray them in porn, however. Animals may have sex freely, but they dont often 'team up' or engage in sexual acts with more than a single partner. You probably would find threesomes, foursomes, and larger orgies a taboo subject in a furry universe. However, the opposite can also hold true - a female cat, for example, will often be mated with by several males in a row. never at the same time, but subsequently and with little delay. It isnt uncommon to see a female cat surrounded by a pack of males and letting each one of them have a go. So, I think that in this furry universe it would be fairly common for females to have multiple male partners, despite that threesomes and such would be considered off limits or taboo.

And on the flip side, in some types of animals (like wolf packs) a male will have sex with multiple females in quick succession, so the opposite can hold true as well.

Homosexuality, at least between males, would probably be quite predominant in a furry universe - however, it's less likely to be for pleasure and more likely to be for a display of dominance. Larger males will, essentially, rape weaker males in order to mark them as either "their property" or to discourage the weaker male from getting a go at any of the stronger one's females.

Also on that note, humans are physically inept compared to most animals. We may be smart, but we're weak - so if a male human were introduced into a furry world like this, you can be almost assured that he would find himself being used and abused by male anthros, and probably not getting a lot from any female anthros. Female humans introduced into this world would probably be 'claimed' by a male, and would have hard time getting away from him to be with any others without starting fights.

Just some points to think about.

PheagleAdler said:
-Incessant nagging.-

I'm just going based off a Fur Enthusiast from when it all began said. I have never once inserted myself into the fandom- I just happen to be familiar with the RP that surrounds it. Pardon me if I struck one of your pretty little nerves, but my opinion, thoughts and otherwise are what they are. That's all I'm going to say.

I think this thread deserves a bump for the sole purpose of promoting intelligent conversation over other topics such as "i can haz bewbs"

Lynx7386 said:
I think this thread deserves a bump for the sole purpose of promoting intelligent conversation over other topics such as "i can haz bewbs"

Wait, I can haz bewbz?

I'm not sure I've read all this correctly, and maybe I'm boring, but I feel that a multi-species anthro world, while interesting, is highly unlikely.
Setting in a world sense is everything, so environment matters a great deal. Atmosphere, climate, potential savagery, societal development, history, culture, inventions, and finally, language and civilization.
Most animals live in a haze of fear and desperation for survival, also.
Add to that a 'post-cromagnon' brain, and think again... Maybe more like the steppes and Mongolia... Not my favorite image.

The water would taste saltier.

I wouldn't want furries to exist.

Too much drama

Patch said:
I wouldn't want furries to exist.

Too much drama

I don't think there would be more or less the humans around now :P

Yes, Lynx7386 said it well.
However, don't let the facts discourage-
I never let them stop me.
Time for a positive swing of the pendulum!
In an engineered world, matters are different.
Perhaps some forgotten predecessor race.
(Norns, Albedo)
It can add something to a plot line.
Heck, I add a further shell:
"The Matrix" concept.
And it can all still be alien technology.
It doesn't even have to be in this phase of our existence!

Ever play Nemin Fantasy? I think that's closest. As animals, they'd stick to their groups for the most part and most people live normal lives. Of course, there are sexual deviants, like humanity, but everybody keeps their head.

I don't think it'd be anything like Corruption of Champions were all anyone thinks about is sex.

What's a human? I don't believe in 'em :D

Mikorians said:
What's a human? I don't believe in 'em :D

:3