Topic: Assholes wanted (critisism) - 7th work up

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Well I don't have time for a full critique atm, but there's a few things. Mainly that the background color seems a little strong since the character is all in muted tones. Perhaps a paler shade would match that better. Right now the much stronger background color almost overwhelms the more muted coloring of the character. Nothing wrong with either, they just don't do each other any favors. And a more muted shade in the background would set off the character instead of overwhelming it. A stronger/brighter colored character would be fine, and in some cases even need a strong background. So it's all about balancing between the other existing colors in the picture. Or if you wanted to change the background color entirely instead of tweaking it, an off-white beige might complement that mouse's coloring. Just another idea to throw out there.

Also the text color vs the sign's color don't play nice together, making it feel hard on the eyes a little when reading it. I'm not sure why that happens sometimes, maybe someone else knows. All I know is fiddling with exact shades/darkness/lightness of the text vs sign color should find the right balance so that it feels more comfortable on the eyes while reading it.

That's all I can see at the moment. It's actually pretty good. I like the subtle shadow you did under the hair (on the forehead). And the fangs instead of only buckteeth I think adds a nice touch. I also like the fur texture across the cheeks and the bridge of the muzzle along the color change.

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The white outline on the hair looks a bit off, besides that the head looks a bad too big and all we see other then that is the tail, yet its hard to think the body is behind that paper so to me it looks like a head on a tail, or a sperm (jk lol)

Anyway, you are getting better but you need to work on the styling of the chibi image. This style has to have a body with it to appear small and sometimes be doll like, however without this shown it loses some of its effects and it just looks like they are a bobble head. Also I see fingers but no paws or hands attached to them, it just looks a little off if they are holding paper.

Hope this helps you improve :3

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Conker said:
The white outline on the hair looks a bit off, besides that the head looks a bad too big and all we see other then that is the tail, yet its hard to think the body is behind that paper so to me it looks like a head on a tail, or a sperm (jk lol)

Anyway, you are getting better but you need to work on the styling of the chibi image. This style has to have a body with it to appear small and sometimes be doll like, however without this shown it loses some of its effects and it just looks like they are a bobble head. Also I see fingers but no paws or hands attached to them, it just looks a little off if they are holding paper.

Hope this helps you improve :3

I thought Chibi's were just quick(er) drawings, usually done on the "cuter" side with larger eyes, ears, paws and tails?

I was going for what came out. I was not going for a "hidden body" concept. I will take it into consideration and do a full body chibi with a sign next time.

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It took me a minute to realise the link is a new picture now. The character actually looks pretty good in this one. I just wish their labia was a little more rounded out/puffy because they look a little flat like a clamshell purse instead of two supple lips of flesh. Some pussies look similar to that, just with each labia having a slightly plumper profile. It's a tiny detail, but for a focal point every little detail counts. I also prefer nipples instead of nippless breasts, but that's a personal preference thing since plenty of people draw either way.

To me the neck seems a little weird, it sort of bows forward like a swan's without the length. Both the front and back line of the neck give this impression. Not the shape of neck I'd expect on a canine, seems like it should be straighter than that.

On the arm_warmer, the top and bottom bolded outlines where it meets the arm are too emphasized. My guess is they were to try and make it look less like a tattoo. The reason it looks like a marking is because the edges of it don't extend anywhere beyond the overall shape of the arm on the sides. If it's clothing, then it should appear beyond the arm's outline/profile, thicker than the surface of the skin, and the edges of it should extend beyond the actual arm just a little. So that it looks like it's wrapped around the arm instead of being part of the arm or painted on.

The "bed" looks round and tilted upward at an angle, which makes me think it's actually a papasan chair instead. But then the lone single bedpost makes me think it's a bed. But then it's odd the bed doesn't seem flat, or rectangular, and has only one bedpost. So I'm really not sure what the character is even kneeling on. That needs some help.

The curtain has three problems, all fixable but indicative of needing some practice. Probably worth taking the time to study and practice how cloth drapes and shadows because it will make clothing easier to draw as well as curtains. After all, cloth drapes on bodies as well as windows.

- So the first issue is that the top line of the curtain is perfectly straight, but most curtains are loosely gathered/folded along the rod in order to get that classic curtain look. The shading also implies it's got ripples in the fabric like expected, so that is contradictory with itself. Also the pattern of shading is almost random which makes it vaguely confusing to look at too closely.

- The second issue is how the curtain seems like something or someone is pulling it back so that you can see outside: you can see the curtain bend and pull back. But no one is there. The character on the bed has her tail line up perfectly creating the illusion that her tail is opening the curtains...except the shadows and distance suggest she's further into the room and her tail is closest to the viewer and too far from the window to do that even if her tail was feeling that dexterous.

- Thirdly, the curtain seems to be magically repelled sideways on the diagonal in an outline around the bed/papasan chair. (you can see the wall behind creating a pseudo border between the bed and the curtain). But there's nothing to explain why it would distort it's own shape that way. It should be hanging fairly straight down from the curtain rod unless there's some air movement. But even then it shouldn't be blowing upward and to the side unless the air was from a fan blowing up at it from the floor.

There's a lot good with this picture, but I know you said you wanted lots of detailed information on weak spots so you know where to work on things. Hopefully that's not too much.

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It's good enough I saved and fav'd, just for an FYI, but Furrypickle got most of what I'd have said, so +1 to what they said. Except the labia bit- Unless you mean in how it just sort of gently slopes to the thighs, rather than forms the more defined shape of the mons and then flares out to meet the hips? If so, then agreed.

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123easy said:
...Except the labia bit- Unless you mean in how it just sort of gently slopes to the thighs, rather than forms the more defined shape of the mons and then flares out to meet the hips? If so, then agreed.

Yeah, I think we're talking about the same thing. Except that the mons is located in the front on top of the pubic bone and can't be seen from this angle, so I'm pretty sure that's the labia majora we're talking about. But either way, judging by your description I think we mean the same thing: that it needs a little more defined shape on the labia majora before flaring back out to meet the thighs.

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Why the gun?
Also if you are going to add other objects in the frame, make sure they are detailed enough to look like they fit in with the frame, or it looks like you just added it in for kicks.

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_Waffles_ said:
I thought Chibi's were just quick(er) drawings, usually done on the "cuter" side with larger eyes, ears, paws and tails?

I was going for what came out. I was not going for a "hidden body" concept. I will take it into consideration and do a full body chibi with a sign next time.

No, Chibi's have a certain style to them, if you dont keep to the requirements then its something else entirely. Most chibis look somewhat like plushies or dolls, thye are tired the big heads eyes and small arms and bodies. Try looking up some chibi style work, look at about 20 images from different artists....you should be able to tel the difference to ones who keep to the style and others who lose it on certain points.

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