Implicating Corpse → Dead
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Reason:

Corpse tag would benefit from cleanup and a wiki entry. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure if corpse is supposed to refer to just humans or all anthros.

corpse should refer to any dead being's carcass, regardless of what they were previously.

123easy said:
corpse should refer to any dead being's carcass, regardless of what they were previously.

Where do you draw the line though? What about these:

post #390782 post #347781 post #23146 post #389046

corpse should probably come with the condition that it remains identifiable in the shape of a body, otherwise I guess it should be meat or gore depending on context.

Wyvrn said:
Where do you draw the line though? What about these:

That's not really the issue. We'd still call that meat even if it was from a human.

I propose we alias Corpse → Dead. It doesn't appear that many, if any, make a distinction between a corpse and a carcass.

DrHorse said:

I propose we alias Corpse → Dead. It doesn't appear that many, if any, make a distinction between a corpse and a carcass.

But corpse does not always = dead. Zombies and undead are corpses but not dead just undead.

Conker said:
But corpse does not always = dead. Zombies and undead are corpses but not dead just undead.

That's not how it's tagged. There's maybe one or two zombie corpse and undead corpse posts that interpret corpse that way. Besides, by definition, a corpse must be dead even if it happens to be a walking corpse.

It appears that people use the 3 separate death tags interchangeably, probably because they don't know about the other death tags. Otherwise, death dead corpse would have a lot more posts than it does now.

DrHorse said:
That's not how it's tagged. There's maybe one or two zombie corpse and undead corpse posts that interpret corpse that way. Besides, by definition, a corpse must be dead even if it happens to be a walking corpse.

Thats not my point....you cant say every corpse is dead....as many are undead. Undead =/= dead. Its not the same thing.

Conker said:
Thats not my point....you cant say every corpse is dead....as many are undead. Undead =/= dead. Its not the same thing.

Walking corpse = walking dead. The definition of a corpse is a dead body. You want to refer to the undead as corpses? That's fine, but that means that they are dead.

DrHorse said:
Walking corpse = walking dead. The definition of a corpse is a dead body. You want to refer to the undead as corpses? That's fine, but that means that they are dead.

Their bodies are corpses that are animate. There are some variations (which in all honesty seem to be the most prevalent variety) that do so through fungus or a virus that re-animates the dead tissue into a new lifeform that is referred to as undead because it is a corpse that now houses a new life. In some circumstances it is a dead body that has been animated by fell magics or some religious concern (biblical apocolypse for example) where the souls of the dead return to the corpses and give them life once more, though not life as they originally were.

In short, undead aren't just dead, thought they are corpses. They are a corpse *and something more that lives (and in some cases lives again)*.

123easy said:
Their bodies are corpses that are animate. There are some variations (which in all honesty seem to be the most prevalent variety) that do so through fungus or a virus that re-animates the dead tissue into a new lifeform that is referred to as undead because it is a corpse that now houses a new life. In some circumstances it is a dead body that has been animated by fell magics or some religious concern (biblical apocolypse for example) where the souls of the dead return to the corpses and give them life once more, though not life as they originally were.

In short, undead aren't just dead, thought they are corpses. They are a corpse *and something more that lives (and in some cases lives again)*.

There are many ways we could define corpse and dead. That is one way, but that's not how the tag has been used, nor is it the dictionary definition.

DrHorse said:
There are many ways we could define corpse and dead. That is one way, but that's not how the tag has been used, nor is it the dictionary definition.

The dictionary definition simply notes 'supernatural force' because it wasn't updated in forever to keep up with the common definition that incorporates the virus or fungus or similar methods in use today. Just because a tag has been used one way so far doesn't mean that it shouldn't be changed to more appropriately reflect how it's used. Some times I agree with a tag change, others I disagree.

123easy said:
The dictionary definition simply notes 'supernatural force' because it wasn't updated in forever to keep up with the common definition that incorporates the virus or fungus or similar methods in use today. Just because a tag has been used one way so far doesn't mean that it shouldn't be changed to more appropriately reflect how it's used. Some times I agree with a tag change, others I disagree.

But why should it be changed? How will making the corpse tag a catchall term for dead and undead improve searchablility?

DrHorse said:
But why should it be changed? How will making the corpse tag a catchall term for dead and undead improve searchablility?

Because corpses are the physical carcasses more than anything else. Whether dead or undead, if you want tosearch up a carcass of a being, search corpse. Dead could include gore strewn about, or just partial corpses (limbs, a head, etc) or someone killed and chopped up into food on a platter (I've seen that sort of stuff before... blech) where it isn't a full corpse.