Why is it necessary, you ask? For one, it would allow users to blacklist certain Naylor comics.
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Why is it necessary, you ask? For one, it would allow users to blacklist certain Naylor comics.
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Peekaboo said:
Some more information would be needed. What does it stand for, and what Naylor comics are you talking about?
"Netorare
A vastly overrated genre that has it's origins with crappy shoujo anime and manga. It's basically a Japanese term for cuckolding, and only a jealous mangina would do that to another guy."
--Urban Dictionary
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Since we aren't japanese, can we just tag it as cuckolding?
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Cuckolding is usually done from the perspective of the character being cuckolded. NTR from the perspective of the people cuckolding. I don't think that distinction is enough to warrant tagging it separately, however, especially since netorare quite literally translates to 'cuckold'.
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what cuckolding means exactly? english is not my native language and any translators wont give any proper answers.
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Mutisija said:
what cuckolding means exactly? english is not my native language and any translators wont give any proper answers.
At its basics, cheating. It's a lot more complex than that, but like I said, basics. What language is native for you?
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A cuckold is a husband whose wife cheats on him. Cuckolding when a man is made into a cuckold, in other words cuckolding is when his wife cheats on him. As a fetish, often the husband is present to witness the cheating, or is otherwise aware that it is going on.
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No.
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123easy said:
Cuckolding is usually done from the perspective of the character being cuckolded. NTR from the perspective of the people cuckolding. I don't think that distinction is enough to warrant tagging it separately, however, especially since netorare quite literally translates to 'cuckold'.
In the case of Not a Chance, it definitely warrants its own tag. Especially because Netorare refers to a specific genre of porn comics, while cuckolding does not.
It should definitely imply cuckolding, though.
The point being that people can blacklist Not A Chance and similar works, since the genre is definitely not intended for them, instead of making the exact same complaint as a bunch of other people in the comments section.
Mutisija said:
what cuckolding means exactly? english is not my native language and any translators wont give any proper answers.
1. And your language is...?
2. You mean a Google translation of the English Wikipedia article was no help? Because if you couldn't understand that, asking the website users to explain it in English won't do much good. You would probably understand it better by reading NTR comics than getting a verbal translation at this point. Start with the Comic I just linked.
3. Short definition: a man getting off by seeing his wife/girlfriend/beloved being fucked by another better-endowed man, typically one with a large cock. Infidelity fetish.
That's the modern meaning. Traditionally it meant a man who didn't know his wife was cheating on him, not a consensual kink; being slow-brained like that in turn reflected negatively on a man's masculinity.
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Note that Wyvern and 123Easy responded while I was busy typing my full response. By that I mean that asking for language was not redundant when I first wrote it.
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Halite said:
Since I'm not japanese, can we just tag it as cuckolding?
It's a subset of cuckolding, not identical.
Do we also have to change the kimono tag to robe?
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1. And your language is...?
2. You mean a Google translation of the English Wikipedia article was no help? Because if you couldn't understand that, asking the website users to explain it in English won't do much good. You would probably understand it better by reading NTR comics than getting a verbal translation at this point. Start with the Comic I just linked.
3. Short definition: a man getting off by seeing his wife/girlfriend/beloved being fucked by another better-endowed man, typically one with a large cock. Infidelity fetish.
That's the modern meaning. Traditionally it meant a man who didn't know his wife was cheating on him, not a consensual kink; being slow-brained like that in turn reflected negatively on a man's masculinity.
1. my native language is finnish
2. i didnt realize to check wikipedia article, i just tried to translate the term with several online translators
3. thanks, this also explains why translators failed, there just is no actual finnish term for this.
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Mutisija said:
there just is no actual finnish term for this.
Aisankannattaja?
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Seven_Twenty said:
Aisankannattaja?
that means literally "thing's supporter", i would imagine that its usually used in political contexts or something. i have never heard anyone to use that term in this context, thats why i said that there is no -actual- finnish term for it.
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Mutisija said:
that means literally "thing's supporter", i would imagine that its usually used in political contexts or something. i have never heard anyone to use that term in this context, thats why i said that there is no -actual- finnish term for it.
Funny cause I translated what 720 said to my languaje (spanish) and it was accurate, dem traductors...
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Butterscotch said:
Funny cause I translated what 720 said to my languaje (spanish) and it was accurate, dem traductors...
We have a word for that?
Edit: Oh, nevermind :)
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i still dont see what this tag offers that cuckolding doesnt
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ippiki_ookami said:
i still dont see what this tag offers that cuckolding doesnt
DSR1337 said:
Why is it necessary, you ask? For one, it would allow users to blacklist certain Naylor comics.
Y'know? This could be easily addressed by adding "cuckolding jay_naylor comic" to the blacklist. Given that the comics are correctly tagged, of course.
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DSR1337 said:
It's a subset of cuckolding, not identical.
Do we also have to change the kimono tag to robe?
A kimono is not a robe.
Also, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netorare
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Peekaboo said:
I really don't see what that tag would contribute with since we have tags like cuckolding and cheating, which in my opinion, cover all bases of "Netorare". And if the tag is passed, I can guarantee ya that barely anyone, if anyone but you, will be using it. I'd never ever heard about it before it was brought up in this thread, and I'm a pretty big cuckolding/cheating fan.
You'd be more familiar with it if you were more into anime and manga, I think; it'sa very common term there.
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This is the dumbest tag suggestion.
It's like suggesting Chikan as a tag in addition to public because "Oh, Chikan is a subset of Public sex. It involves trains."
Just blacklist jay_naylor cuckolding.
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SirAntagonist said:
This is the dumbest tag suggestion.It's like suggesting Chikan as a tag in addition to public because "Oh, Chikan is a subset of Public sex. It involves trains."
Just blacklist jay_naylor cuckolding.
Close; Chikan to molestation would be more correct, as Chikan does not need to progress anywhere near as far as sex- Even if it's just light groping or fondling via intentionally brushing against someone on the train, it qualifies.
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123easy said:
Close; Chikan to molestation would be more correct, as Chikan does not need to progress anywhere near as far as sex- Even if it's just light groping or fondling via intentionally brushing against someone on the train, it qualifies.
My comment's main purpose was to give we the satisfaction of being able to put "trains" in italics.
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SirAntagonist said:
My comment's main purpose was to give we the satisfaction of being able to put "trains" in italics.
You can just do that you know, it doesn't have to be relevant to anything.
You can just stick an italics trains at the end of any post to make yourself happy.
trains
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trains
...My god, that does feel good.
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Cuckolding is when a woman cheats on the man to humiliate the man. Cuckqueaning is when a man cheats on a woman to humilate the woman. Cuckold goes further than cheating in that the cheater wants the cheatee to know about it and feel inadequate because of it.
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Ko-san said:
Cuckolding is when a woman cheats on the man to humiliate the man. Cuckqueaning is when a man cheats on a woman to humilate the woman. Cuckold goes further than cheating in that the cheater wants the cheatee to know about it and feel inadequate because of it.
That may be the fetish version, but a man who has been cheated upon has been cuckolded regardless of whether he knows it or not.
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Halite said:
A kimono is not a robe.Also, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netorare
Wikipedia doesn't cover all of it. That's why I directed Mutisija to this article.
Also, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimono
Kimono are T-shaped, straight-lined robes worn so that the hem falls to the ankle, with attached collars and long, wide sleeves.
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DSR1337 said:
Wikipedia doesn't cover all of it. That's why I directed Mutisija to this article.
Also, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimono
English equivilency there. Kimono are Kimono, as they don't qualify to the definition of what a robe is (More specifically because they do not hang loosely, like a cape, dressing gown, or bathrobe). Just because they are called robes to make it easier for the speaker and listener to understand the basic concept doesn't mean that they actually are. Yukata are far closer in concept to robes, and even they are not technically robes, much as the Toga is not actually a robe. (\*The more you know*/)
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DSR1337 said:
Wikipedia doesn't cover all of it. That's why I directed Mutisija to this article.
Also, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimono
Wikipaedia absolutely covers it, just as part of the cuckolding page because they're the same thing.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, DSR, but netorare really is just cuckolding. There's specialized subfetishes within that catagory that might apply from author to author, or sub-genre to sub-genre, but it still all falls under the general aegis of cuckolding.
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123easy said:
it still all falls under the general aegis of cuckolding.
I think we can all agree on this, actually. Better get started tagging comics like Not_a_Chance. It sounds like the best policy, until we have any compelling evidence that the "netorare" tag is even necessary.
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