Hello guys, Cornell here.
I am wondering why does this tag exist and why are there over 700 images tagged with it. If you have a link with the higher resolution image, why don't you just upload that image? Should I just go mass flagging those images and uploading the sources or there's a valid reason behind this tag?

Thanks.

I personally see no reason for not just uploading the largest version available at the time

If you want to you can post the larger one and flag the old one, sure

Rainbow_Dash said:
I personally see no reason for not just uploading the largest version available at the time

If you want to you can post the larger one and flag the old one, sure

Unless OP is conscious and doesn't want to upload to this site the 600DPI A3 picture (which is about 50 megapixel, imagine size of file?) - and I saw art like that. Other concern is that mega-pictures might be not possible to see in some browsers, e.g. on older android?

Swiftkill said:
Unless OP is conscious and doesn't want to upload to this site the 600DPI A3 picture (which is about 50 megapixel, imagine size of file?) - and I saw art like that. Other concern is that mega-pictures might be not possible to see in some browsers, e.g. on older android?

Well, just because some may not be able to view it doesn't mean we shouldn't upload the best version for everybody else :/
Also, I have never seen a browser have a problem with the size of a picture.

Swiftkill said:
Unless OP is conscious and doesn't want to upload to this site the 600DPI A3 picture (which is about 50 megapixel, imagine size of file?) - and I saw art like that. Other concern is that mega-pictures might be not possible to see in some browsers, e.g. on older android?

That doesn't mean we should lower our highest possible resolution available to the mid range just because some can't view high def, it just means that they should use the image resize feature

I thought it was used as a courtesy for others to upload the larger version to make more uploads for them

The OP doesn't usually tag their own posts with bvats. Usually somebody notices that they've uploaded the preview image when there's a "download full image" button somewhere else on the page (like on deviantart)

While I don't agree with people making fun of older computers- they need their prons too, eh?- I completely agree with Swiftkill in this point of reference. Quite a few parts of the US don't even have cable internet, for crying out loud- Imagine trying to view a 50 MP image over 56K. Now, granted, that's not typical- but 10 or 25 down is, for cable, and with images that large, on even a computer made two years ago it'll still take a good while to pop.

Images that freakishly huge ARE going to take a lot of time to get for anyone not running on the bleeding edge of technology. I see no reason not to just put a reasonably large image onto the site and link back to the much more massively larger image at the source for those that CAN view it in that frame of reference, as is being done here.

123easy said:
Images that freakishly huge ARE going to take a lot of time to get for anyone not running on the bleeding edge of technology. I see no reason not to just put a reasonably large image onto the site and link back to the much more massively larger image at the source for those that CAN view it in that frame of reference, as is being done here.

This isn't a problem

Seven_Twenty said:
This isn't a problem

This.

Cornell said:
I am wondering why does this tag exist and why are there over 700 images tagged with it.

The original poster generally doesn't use that tag. Later, some lazy person will come along and update the tag instead of uploading a new picture. Uploading a new picture means saving it to your hard drive, uploading it to the site, copying and pasting the tags from the previous submission, and adding a child/parent relationship between the old picture and the new picture. It takes a little time, and simply updating the tag is much easier.

Seven_Twenty said:
This isn't a problem

It most certainly is, for people that don't want shit scale images, but not massively oversized images. Trying to actually see the words in any of the Las Lindas images, for example- resized is my usual go-to if I want to see it in whole, but fuck if I can read the tiny resized words. If that was 50 MP? Fuck that shit, I'm going to turn away and not bother with it because of how annoying it is.

Thanks for clearing this up guys, I also have a question regarding "avoid_posting" tag and I didn't want to make a new thread so I'll just ask here. Why does it exist? Should we also flag images containing that tag or those images are special in some way so they get to stay without being deleted.

Edit: Nevermind, found the conditional DNP at the bottom of this page

123easy said:
It most certainly is, for people that don't want shit scale images, but not massively oversized images. Trying to actually see the words in any of the Las Lindas images, for example- resized is my usual go-to if I want to see it in whole, but fuck if I can read the tiny resized words. If that was 50 MP? Fuck that shit, I'm going to turn away and not bother with it because of how annoying it is.

None of that fixes the current problem or offers a better alternative

The suggestion/possible reasoning someone had was that it was to cater to computers that can't process the image size, but that is just not a solution. I own a modern computer that can process these images as do most of us, and that resize button works wonders for my mobile viewer. Making images smaller to begin with would be really irritating for the 90% and offer no way to have the bigger version. Whereas right now we can accommodate both by always having the high def version and then resizing tools

In shorter words, you can always scale down but you can't scale up

Rainbow_Dash said:
just means that they should use the image resize feature

May be , but I just offered possible reason why they don't:
Image resize feature is client-side.. that; what I meant that some OSes, platforms, browsers not capable of that, also imagine downloading or uploading 50Mb file.. over mobile network, that's why they didn't upload, leaving to someone else?

Swiftkill said:
May be , but I just offered possible reason why they don't:
Image resize feature is client-side.. that; what I meant that some OSes, platforms, browsers not capable of that, also imagine downloading or uploading 50Mb file.. over mobile network, that's why they didn't upload, leaving to someone else?

The "resize images" option will download the full version but shrink it to fit the screen, but the "show image samples" will show a picture that has been scaled down on the server, not on the client.

For example: post #439543

The Original: https://static1.e621.net/data/14/ae/14aef73154448e202cb32aea094e0eba.png (2800x1866 px, 4.6 MB, .png)

Sample: https://static1.e621.net/data/sample/14/ae/14aef73154448e202cb32aea094e0eba.jpg (800x533 px, 127,79 KB, .jpg)

So yes, this feature of serverside reduced images is already existing, but only for one size.

Some artists may offer a larger version only on their site(source) but allow a lower res version uploaded elsewhere.

I've used that bigger_version_at_the_source tag from time to time. Mostly because there's some kinks that I don't want to see on my upload list...

I always thought it was the artists decision.
Like, they only wanted the highest quality images to be viewed on their personal site or whatever...

Moon_Moon said:
I always thought it was the artists decision.
Like, they only wanted the highest quality images to be viewed on their personal site or whatever...

I always thought that was the only time the tag was relevant. Otherwise we should have the biggest, best quality one :o

Swiftkill said:
May be , but I just offered possible reason why they don't:
Image resize feature is client-side.. that; what I meant that some OSes, platforms, browsers not capable of that, also imagine downloading or uploading 50Mb file.. over mobile network, that's why they didn't upload, leaving to someone else?

Image resize and image sampling. Image resize for smaller displays and image sampling for smaller processors and slower connections.