Topic: Tag Alias: in_air -> suspended_in_midair

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

What suspended_in_air?

Is this tag only used to a character being held or suspended in the air or does it apply to things that can naturally fly and are in air?

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Rainbow_Dash said:
What suspended_in_air?

Is this tag only used to a character being held or suspended in the air or does it apply to things that can naturally fly and are in air?

I thought we used flying for things that can fly and are in the air

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Rainbow_Dash said:
What suspended_in_air?

Is this tag only used to a character being held or suspended in the air or does it apply to things that can naturally fly and are in air?

Things that are being held suspended in air, without visible reference to being able to fly or float naturally; entails tentacles or vines or the like. The tag is already being used as such, with perhaps an image or two of someone randomly floating in the air; I don't see why that doesn't count as they are suspended in the air as well, though without any point of reference for why- This would be strictly for things that do not have a visible form of aerial locomotion, of course.

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Genjar said:
Er... Then what about floating, levitating and hovering tags, what exactly should those be used for?

Looks like these need to be sorted out.

floating I'd clean to floating in a liquid, hovering has nothing to do with suspension so don't see how that's relevant, same with levitating. Still should be sorted out further... Any suggestions?

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Well, in_air is/was also used for images such as these:
post #224133 post #272847 post #147507 post #265346

So there's a lot of overlap with hovering and such. And yeah, floating could be used for liquids, but it is too easily confused with floating in air.

I can't think of a good way to rename those so they won't get mixed up constantly.

There's even some overlap with jumping and leaping, and midair also exists. Urgh.

I'm thinking that we should combine in_air and midair into a separate generic tag. Because some of the images are way too ambiguous: can't tell if they're in midjump, hovering, levitating, flying, or whatever.

Suspension also already exists, so I'm not sure why we'd need suspended_in_midair as a separate tag.

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I think this calls for a reform of the tags which I shall make up some solutions for

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Genjar said:
Well, in_air is/was also used for images such as these:
post #224133 post #272847 post #147507 post #265346

So there's a lot of overlap with hovering and such. And yeah, floating could be used for liquids, but it is too easily confused with floating in air.

I can't think of a good way to rename those so they won't get mixed up constantly.

There's even some overlap with jumping and leaping, and midair also exists. Urgh.

I'm thinking that we should combine in_air and midair into a separate generic tag. Because some of the images are way too ambiguous: can't tell if they're in midjump, hovering, levitating, flying, or whatever.

Suspension also already exists, so I'm not sure why we'd need suspended_in_midair as a separate tag.

Because the first sounds like we're talking cars? :P Seriously though, i'd rather suspended_in_air be the tag that suspended and suspension get aliased to, as it makes more sense for "what is this used for?"-type thoughts.

Jumping should be used whereever it's obvious they're jumping. Leaping should be aliased to it as we don't need two jumping tags. Midair should be used for any situation a character is, obviously, midair, whatever the means- that means that suspension_in_air would not actually be tagged midair because they are being held in place- they must be unsupported by physical connections to the ground or similarily large object (A colossus dangling someone from their hand, for example). in_air can be aliased to midair after the suspended_in_air styled images are sorted out, agreed. Hovering- looking at the images in it... only a few qualify for being midair, the rest... and even then, those few either are more appropriately tagged flight (the rocket train landing/taking off, the hovering city, the bike Fox and Krystal are fucking on, etc) or just midair because they are just sort of floating in the air. Which brings me to floating- I wasn't meaning clean it and leave it as just "floating", I was thinking the same as with suspended_in_air- floating_in_liquid.

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I pretty much agree with that whole block of text.

Aliasing leapingjumping seems like a good idea. As long as it gets cleaned up at some point. Same goes for the midairin_air alias.

Hovering could be sorted out to other tags, then invalidated since it seem too ambiguous to keep.

Not sure about the floating_in_liquid. That's quite a mouthful. I wonder if afloat would work for that?

And what about the flight and flying tags? Is there any good reason not to alias those?

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Genjar said:
I pretty much agree with that whole block of text.

Aliasing leapingjumping seems like a good idea. As long as it gets cleaned up at some point. Same goes for the midairin_air alias.

Hovering could be sorted out to other tags, then invalidated since it seem too ambiguous to keep.

Not sure about the floating_in_liquid. That's quite a mouthful. I wonder if afloat would work for that?

And what about the flight and flying tags? Is there any good reason not to alias those?

I see no reason not to alias those together; to flight or flying? I'd prefer flight, personally, but either or. Afloat is better suited since it's not so lengthy, thanks for the suggestion.

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