Aliasing beast → invalid_tag
Link to alias

Reason:

Too ambiguous.

Finally got this cleaned up. I don't think it can be aliased to anything else. It had a mix of: anthro, feral, monster, bestiality, beast (both Marvel and Disney), and kemono.

What would happen if we aliased it to the disney beast?

Rainbow_Dash said:
What would happen if we aliased it to the disney beast?

And why not to beast xmen :v

Fluttershy said:
And why not to beast xmen :v

I dunno, that's why I am asking. What would be the result of aliasing it to something like one of these characters

Rainbow_Dash said:
What would happen if we aliased it to the disney beast?

Massive amount of mistags. There were about 200 images, and maybe ten of them were beast_(disney). The rest were spread almost evenly across the the other tags I listed, with kemono or anthro being the most common one. Probably because kemono is the Japanese term for furry and literally means 'beast'.

Doesn't seem like a good idea to alias it to anything other than invalid_tag.

Uhm, you do know that "Beast" is an appropriate designation for any non-human animal that cannot otherwise be properly designated as a specific catagory, like the mythical beasts?

123easy said:
Uhm, you do know that "Beast" is an appropriate designation for any non-human animal that cannot otherwise be properly designated as a specific catagory, like the mythical beasts?

Nah. That's been replaced by monster, and there were no images under beast that couldn't be tagged as one of the other tags.

(I'm not sure if kemono is a valid tag either. Admins have talked about nuking that for a year at least, but it's still there and getting more and more posts by day.)

Genjar said:
Nah. That's been replaced by monster, and there were no images under beast that couldn't be tagged as one of the other tags.

(I'm not sure if kemono is a valid tag either. Admins have talked about nuking that for a year at least, but it's still there and getting more and more posts by day.)

....That's poor attribution. :/ They aren't monsters, as that indicates wrongful mutation, monstrousness, and similar negative concepts.

123easy said:
....That's poor attribution. :/ They aren't monsters, as that indicates wrongful mutation, monstrousness, and similar negative concepts.

Can you give some examples? I don't remember seeing anything under that tag that didn't belong elsewhere, and I don't remember there being any mythical beasts. Besides dragons, which have their own tag.

Beast was mostly used for images such as these:
post #129781 post #247571 post #187265 post #254833

Genjar said:
Can you give some examples? I don't remember seeing anything under that tag that didn't belong elsewhere, and I don't remember there being any mythical beasts. Besides dragons, which have their own tag.

Beast was mostly used for images such as these:
post #129781 post #247571 post #187265 post #254833

I'm saying that mythical beasts falling under the monster tag is poor attribution, not that the beast tag was being used poorly (though it seems it was).

The way I am seeing it is like this:
Beast equals mythical animal or just feral animal really
Monster equals scary mutant or equivalent

Rainbow_Dash said:
The way I am seeing it is like this:
Beast equals mythical animal or just feral animal really
Monster equals scary mutant or equivalent

Yes. Medusa was a monster, not because she was evil and disgusting or anything, but because she was a mutation, an aberration. Mythical beasts were called that because they were not human, nor were they mundane creatures like pigs and sheep. Even if their species is technically a mundane one, such as the bulls that guarded the Golden Fleece, those specific animals were mythical beasts because they had hooves of brass and breathed fire- things no normal creature of its kine could do.

Note that 'monster' itself is a term that originally had no negative connotation, merely that of an undesired abberation from the norm; It\'s only over the years since the Greeks that we have come to associate the word's meaning with those negative aspects, unfortunately.

Look, seriously. I've been cleaning the beast tag for several months, and it was a mishmash of completely unrelated images. It is far too ambiguous to keep.

If there needs to be a tag for mythical animals, we should create a new one for that. Mythical beast, maybe. But I don't think it's actually needed, since we already have the feral and the (admittedly underused) mythology tags.

Genjar said:
Look, seriously. I've been cleaning the beast tag for several months, and it was a mishmash of completely unrelated images. It is far too ambiguous to keep.

If there needs to be a tag for mythical animals, we should create a new one for that. Mythical beast, maybe. But I don't think it's actually needed, since we already have the feral and the (admittedly underused) mythology tags.

Whoa, Genjar. I'm not arguing that Beast should be kept. I was initially informing you guys as to what it should have been used for, but with it being so misused I'm not sad to see it go; Everything since has been only against mythical beasts being referred to as monsters, nothing more- Definitely not with intent to revive the beast tag for that. Ambiguousness would just return it to a state where the tag is misused once again.

I would say it is time to set this tag on fire and be rid of it to save our villages