Topic: What's w/ ppl coming here JUST to nag n' flag the cub stuff?

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Srsly... It's like they must have migrated over from Fchan and just assumed the rules here would be the same as back there.

There's always some retarded comment on a cub or seemingly "underage" image about how zOMG WRAWNG!!11 it is, or that it's been "flagged for deletion" by some righteously indignant asshole and then someone else is like "You know where yer at, right?" and "Blacklist exists for a reason!" yet neither of those things makes any dent and the person just keeps preaching about "teh evulz of cub pr0n" until a mod gets them with the ban hammer.

What makes people get so damn riled up by a DRAWING? I mean, I would like to think there's a pretty huge difference between someone drawing an image of Tails being chained up to a wall getting buttsecks'd by Sonic or hetero-raped by Amy Rose or Rouge and someone actually kidnapping and exploiting a REAL HUMAN CHILD.

I mean, Tails isn't the one in that situation whose going to need years of therapy. Passing -furry- images around just encourages the artists to draw more of that subject, passing human cp around encourages more child molesters and abductors to harm real living breathing children. I would like to think the former is the "lesser evil" here since the subjects in the images DON'T REALLY EXIST.

But there's always that group that believes "If you like it in that form, then you'd probably enjoy the real thing"... I dunno, I've come across 'straight' furs who were only comfortable with or aroused by homosexuality when it was within furry images and role play, but weren't into the real thing. But of course, they could've just been closet cases.

And someone could easily twist that sentence to go after anything else like; "If you fap to cartoon animal porn, you'd probably enjoy bestiality." Or "If you look at guro then you'd probably love to hack somebody up and make their skin into a toilet cover." Or "If you like shooting people in video games then you'd probably love to go on a rampage through your school or place of business."

Blaming the medium for the actions of the viewer is like blaming Marilyn Manson for Columbine. The same person who looks at cub images and then goes out and rapes a real life human child more than likely was going to go down that path anyhow with or without having seen that comic of Mamoru-kun getting blindfolded and gang raped. Just like how the same person who listened to Judas Priest or Ozzy Osbourne and decided they'd commit suicide was probably going to do it anyway, with or without the music "telling them" to do it.

If we go by this "being exposed to X will make you want to DO it" mindset then we may as well completely ban violent music, movies, video games, TV shows where any kind of sex or drug usage occurs because someone somewhere out there is going to be influenced by it and want to attempt it themselves. (Hey, I saw that episode of Intervention where the chick was huffing canned air, I think I'll try that! *Snrrrrrrt!*)

Or maybe we could just take a step back and think "that's only the morons out there who would do that, but there -are- people out there who are capable of telling the difference between and keeping their fantasies and realities separate and we shouldn't punish them for the actions and ignorance of others."

TL;DR version:
If you don't like how e621 rolls, then
go back to where you came from, trolls.

Updated by Princess Celestia

I don't see why you're so upset when, as the records page reveals, these people always get what's coming to them. I mean, if this was going on without consequence, I could understand you being frustrated, but it isn't, so...yeah.

And I've been hovering over the image you're referring to (the one with the ongoing "argument" you participated in) and I don't see anyone actually bitching about it being cub, other than the flagger (who was given a record for it), so what comments ARE you talking about? People who flag images for being cub get punished almost instantly, and people who consistently whine in the comments about it get smacked eventually, so if you're referring to users who are repeatedly violating these rules without reprimand, then they need to be reported.

Updated by anonymous

Perhaps it's the morons whom the "public morale supporters" for lack of a better term are worring about. Why not leave it to the same principles as the Darwin Awards?

Updated by anonymous

Personally, I fap to cub porn to mitigate my inherent desires to brutally rape and murder a real child.

But that's just me, OP.

Updated by anonymous

To be honest, I read that comment thread and all I see is a bunch of canned responses to theoretical anti-cub comments that don't even exist. People are so quick to jump down the throats of what they call "moralfags" that they don't realize that that's just as bad as complaining about the content in the first place. I'm honestly sick of watching it, someone call me when people start breaking rules.

Updated by anonymous

I wasn't making any critique about the mods quality of work. You guys do handle these sorta things swiftly and the ones bitching about the images usually get told off by others more often than they get supporters. But still, I can't help but find it amusing when these types wander onto e621 mistakenly thinking that it's run the same way Sage Nadia runs Fchan and that they'll automatically get sympathetic responses and be considered "heroes" for helping flag all the nasty evil drawn animal kiddie pr0nz or for posting some kind of internet tough guy virtual vigilante crap like "If I was there, I'd fill that kiddy piddler so full of holes he'd look like swiss cheese."

"Personally, I fap to cub porn to mitigate my inherent desires to
brutally rape and murder a real child. But that's just me, OP."

^And some people play First Person Shooters to mitigate their inherent desires to fill everyone around them full of lead, and that's totally their right for as long as they keep it confined to the game, innit?

"To be honest, I read that comment thread and all
I see is a bunch of canned responses to theoretical
anti-cub comments that don't even exist."

^You mean comments that got deleted but still got quoted by the folks who saw 'em.

Updated by anonymous

Flagging is as flagging does. if you find an account that's a repeat offender.. flag them. They will be investigated.

Updated by anonymous

Silly_Lil_Foxcub said:
If you don't like how e621 rolls, then
go back to where you came from, trolls.

I have no respect for you now.

Updated by anonymous

good god...it doesn't matter if it's cub, scat, gore, feral, vore, or anything else. there will always be some ass who comments against it. just nut up and ignore it. geez.

Updated by anonymous

cookiekangaroo said:
good god...it doesn't matter if it's cub, scat, gore, feral, vore, or anything else. there will always be some ass who comments against it. just nut up and ignore it. geez.

This.

People seem to forget there is rule 34 of almost anything.

Like Anime has Rule 34 as well,like Yaoi. rule 34,if it exists,there is porn of it,no expections.

Updated by anonymous

Axelfox said:
This.

People seem to forget there is rule 34 of almost anything.

Some people draw R34 of RugRats...now THATS wrong.
>.<

Updated by anonymous

"If it exists, there is porn of it, no exceptions."

Except for Knight Rider, thank Gawd. Everything else in my childhood, have at it... but leave poor K.I.T.T. and David "Michael Knight" Hasselhoff alone, for that, dear sirs, would truly be "wrong" and soul destroying.

Updated by anonymous

Well this conversation seems to have careened from full on drama into off-topic wtfery, Have the celestial seal of locking in your honor.

Updated by anonymous

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