Topic: Tag Implication: eagle -> bird

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Genjar

Former Staff

That's an another set of tags that never made much sense to me.

The implications are split between bird and avian. Parrots and chickens are birds, but peacocks and owls are avians? What.

Do we need both the bird and avian tags, or could bird be aliased to avian?

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Good thing there's no Goodfeathers porn, or we'd have to implicate 'boyd' as well.

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Genjar said:
That's an another set of tags that never made much sense to me.

The implications are split between bird and avian. Parrots and chickens are birds, but peacocks and owls are avians? What.

Do we need both the bird and avian tags, or could bird be aliased to avian?

Technically all birds are avian dinosaurs, so if we wanted to make that connection... ;)

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I can't believe two such big tags have gone unnoticed. I'd be completely up for bird -> avian since they're practically the same thing.

After that, I'd support this implication as eagle -> avian.

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wow, we really do not have this aliased?
Like really??

Such shame

Regarding avian vs bird, are there any avians that are not birds? If yes, implication, if no, alias

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Rainbow_Dash said:
wow, we really do not have this aliased?
Like really??

Such shame

Regarding avian vs bird, are there any avians that are not birds? If yes, implication, if no, alias

Depends on how we define "avian".
If we're talking about the class "aves" then there are some dinosaurs in there as well, though some might call those dinosaurs birds as well.

It's a fairly minute distinction, and frankly for use in tagging I don't think the distinction is significant enough to warrant separate tags.

This all being said, there is also the potential to label some mythological beasts as avian, certainly part-bird hybrids would end up with it as they'd be tagged with their bird part species.
But there are others that could potentially qualify as "avian" because they have bird wings but not be tagged with a specific bird species, i.e. Pegasus(or Pterippi which is the species since pegasus is one specifically but that's a whole other argument), harpies, sphinx etc.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Rainbow_Dash said:
Regarding avian vs bird, are there any avians that are not birds? If yes, implication, if no, alias

Gryphons and harpies.
And some other winged creatures (dragons, bats, angels, etc.) sometimes get tagged as avians, but I believe those to be mistags.

There's no other difference between the bird and avian tags, afaik. The difference is minor, and I'd support aliasing them.

But if those are to be kept separate, all implicated birds (such as owl, peacock, etc.) should be moved from avian to bird.

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Rainbow_Dash said:
wow, we really do not have this aliased?
Like really??

Such shame

oh my fucking god what

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I would support aliasing avian to bird

Saffron said:
oh my fucking god what

I know right?

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Bird alias to avian maybe?
Would result in less bird tags on non-birds?

But then a lack of bird tag... I dunno.

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Bird should imply avian, not alias. there are plenty of non-birds that we tag as avians as we use that tag for the purposes of having (feathered-only?) wings and flight.

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123easy said:
Bird should imply avian, not alias. there are plenty of non-birds that we tag as avians as we use that tag for the purposes of having (feathered-only?) wings and flight.

So we have non bird avians then? Can you link some examples so we can get a feel for what those look like?

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Rainbow_Dash said:
So we have non bird avians then? Can you link some examples so we can get a feel for what those look like?

Genjar said:
Gryphons and harpies.
And some other winged creatures (dragons, bats, angels, etc.) sometimes get tagged as avians, but I believe those to be mistags.

There's no other difference between the bird and avian tags, afaik. The difference is minor, and I'd support aliasing them.

But if those are to be kept separate, all implicated birds (such as owl, peacock, etc.) should be moved from avian to bird.

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