Since Esme_Belles started mass-editing the tag herm into dickgirl (including mistakes, one of them brought my attention to this matter), I've got a question to the imageboard's authorities:

Which of the two tags, herm and dickgirl, has the priority for a known herm character if the male genitals are visible, but the female are not?

I get a feeling that this choice should be held by the way character is known (because of the known to be in the descriptions), otherwise a search for some very-well-known-as-a-herm characters will require the use of both tags

~herm ~dickgirl

just because there are some less exposed poses. Imagine, for example, half of artica_sparkle pics with a different tag...

If you cant see that it has a vaj, tag dickgirl. If the character is famous, as you stated, then they can search their name. And the artica images you mentioned are just tagged wrong.

for the record, i only look for pictures where just the cocks visible, then change it to what i see. The site does after all have a tag what you see not what you know rule. even says in the rule outside sources of information dont count for tags.

sidenote: never expected to have a thread made about me or my tagging lol

Dickgirl tag has priority. If you can see male genitalia but not female, even 'known to be' herms end up tagged dickgirl.

31h253 said:
Dickgirl tag has priority. If you can see male genitalia but not female, even 'known to be' herms end up tagged dickgirl.

That is an inaccurate statement.

The picture, and what is visible in it takes priority.
It has sole priority.

The rules say tag what's in the picture, not anything else(with a very few exceptions that are specifically outlined in the rule, like name of artist).

Hammie said:
That is an inaccurate statement.

The picture, and what is visible in it takes priority.
It has sole priority.

The rules say tag what's in the picture, not anything else(with a very few exceptions that are specifically outlined in the rule, like name of artist).

Ok, fixing and rewriting this to be a little more clear, lets look at a few scenarios

Scenario 1; The character is on full display, the vagina and dick are visible {Irrelevent to breasts at this point}, the character is a known herm. This is tagged a herm.

Scenario 2; The character is laid back, with their cock taking up the screen real estate, and no vag anywhere, and great big tits; the character is again, a known herm. In this case it would get the Dick Girl, tag. As this is "Tag what you see, not what you know"

scenario 3; the same character as above is bent over, ass facing the screen, with their dick hidden out of view, and no visible bulge or indicator its there; this is tagged Female.

Scenario 4; The character is displayed in such a way that the breasts and vagina are not visible {A feat to be sure} but the dick is infact visible; this would gain the "Male" tag.

Of course, these are all very "Nutshelled" versions at the most basic level, generally herm is only used in scenario 1; where as the other 3 scenarios can generally jump around depending on clothing and other factors. But the basic rule of thumb is, look at the picture as someone whos never seen it before, infact, pretend your ENTIRELY new to the furry community, then look at it. Now from the uninitiated standpoint, what does it look like; a male, female, hermaphrodite, dick girl, or cuntboy.

This does get more confusing "Thanks" to cuntboys and "Flat" Females; generally cuntboys will have masculine body structures, while flat females have feminine body structures. I hope this has helped.

The reason this works this way is it must be looked at from an "Uninitiated point of view". If a user is searching pictures of Herms, they most likely want great big throbing cocks and dripping pussies, while users who search dickgirls probably don't want vag, and users who search cuntboys, well, we can't help them, their too far gone.

The only time you can use outside information is for character names and the year the art was made, otherwise the image needs to reflect what is shown in the image. This is done so that (as Princess Celestia and others have said) if someone who doesn't know or care about the character's backstory is looking for certain content, they can find it.

Tag what you see. That's all. If a character is known to be something that a picture is not showing, the oblivious tagger don't care. They see what they see. Everyone has their own views.

Princess_Celestia said:
...and users who search cuntboys, well, we can't help them, their too far gone.

they're

i gota admit, i try to stay away from the MLP herms..they confused the hell outa me...i dont know wether to tag them as herm, dickgirl or male lol i keep seeing stuff stating about the headshape but ive never seen the show.

Esme_Belles said:
i gota admit, i try to stay away from the MLP herms..they confused the hell outa me...i dont know wether to tag them as herm, dickgirl or male lol i keep seeing stuff stating about the headshape but ive never seen the show.

As far as I know the headshape thing boils down to "rounded nose=female; square/pointed nose=male".

Except that's not 100% accurate either.

Edit: as an example, Princess Celestia frequently is depicted with a square nose. So either not accurate, or something's odd with the "princess"

Stick with TWYS, and keep an eye out for crotchboobs(teats) male horses don't even have nipples.

Hammie said:
Except that's not 100% accurate either.

Edit: as an example, Princess Celestia frequently is depicted with a square nose. So either not accurate, or something's odd with the "princess"

Stick with TWYS, and keep an eye out for crotchboobs(teats) male horses don't even have nipples.

Oh, you are so going to the glue factory.

Princess_Celestia said:
Oh, you are so going to the glue factory.

i lol'd

Esme_Belles said:
Sidenote: never expected to have a thread made about me or my tagging lol

It was just a reason to check the rules :-)

I just got ... corrected... in a PM by Esme Belles about the use of the "herm" tag on things that were already tagged "intersex"... Apparently this is a problem somehow, and it was decided here two weeks ago.

So how does this fit in with the intersex tag, then? Shouldn't herm and intersex be the umbrella terms and "cuntboy" and "dickgirl" be subcategories?

Violet said:
I just got ... corrected... in a PM by Esme Belles about the use of the "herm" tag on things that were already tagged "intersex"... Apparently this is a problem somehow, and it was decided here two weeks ago.

So how does this fit in with the intersex tag, then? Shouldn't herm and intersex be the umbrella terms and "cuntboy" and "dickgirl" be subcategories?

Anything tagged herm, dickgirl, or cuntboy is also tagged as intersex due to implications. Intersex is never used by itself.

Violet said:
So how does this fit in with the intersex tag, then? Shouldn't herm and intersex be the umbrella terms and "cuntboy" and "dickgirl" be subcategories?

Intersex is the umbrella term. Herm is not an umbrella term, and should only be used if both a penis and a pussy are visible on the same character.

Ugh. There are several pages of intersex -herm -dickgirl -cuntboy .. thank you for drawing this to my attention <3

Man, maybe I should make a dang intersex flow chart c_c

that would be a very small flowchart

herm======dickgirl======cuntboy
---|----------|-------------|
intersex---intersex------intersex

damn you text formatting

Gender-tagging guidelines, unambiguously formatted (C-style syntax).

if(penis||bulge){
	if(pussy||cameltoe){
		tag herm
	}
	else if(tits){
		tag dickgirl
	}
	else{
		tag male
	}
}
else if(pussy||cameltoe){
	if(tits){ 
		tag female
	}
	else if (scalie||avian||cub||other_situation_where_breasts_are_not_always_expected_on_females){
		/* this requires some judgement */
		tag female 
	}
	else{
		tag cuntboy
	}
}
else if(tits){
	tag female
}
else if(masculine_body_type){
	/*requires judgment...usually pretty easy with anthro, difficult with feral*/
	tag male
}
else{
	tag ambiguous_gender
}

std::cout << "Hello, world!\n";
     TAB

std::cout << "Hello, world!\n";
     TAB

http://e621.net/help/dtext

SnowWolf said:
Ugh. There are several pages of intersex -herm -dickgirl -cuntboy .. thank you for drawing this to my attention <3

Man, maybe I should make a dang intersex flow chart c_c

I almost forgot
post #230188

Princess_Celestia said:

and users who search cuntboys, well, we can't help them, their too far gone.

I feel so unloved. QQ

Adrian_Blazevic said:

std::cout << "Hello, world!\n";
     TAB

std::cout << "Hello, world!\n";
     TAB

http://e621.net/help/dtext

I have no idea what you're talking about >.>