If it's some sort of implication that causing it, I don't know. I've reached my max edits for the day; However there are a large magnitude of pictures that don't belong with the tags masturbation and mutual_masturbation. May of these confuse handjobs, fingering, and blowjobs with actual masturbation.

fingering = masturbation.

Fox2K9 said:
fingering = masturbation.

Not if one person is fingering someone else.

"erotic stimulation especially of one's own genital organs commonly resulting in orgasm and achieved by manual or other bodily contact exclusive of sexual intercourse, by instrumental manipulation, occasionally by sexual fantasies, or by various combinations of these agencies"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/masturbation

As currently stands
handjob (378) -> masturbation (2259)
anal_dildo (70) -> anal_masturbation (104)
fingering (602) -> masturbation (2259)
handjob (378) -> masturbation (2259)
None of these really apply to real life implications. This is bad database relations.

Fox2K9 said:
fingering = masturbation.

fingering ∈ masturbation

pegging -> anal_dildo -> anal_masturbation
what

these are busted as fuck
the implications

TheDatabase said:
handjob (378) -> masturbation (2259)
anal_dildo (70) -> anal_masturbation (104)
fingering (602) -> masturbation (2259)
mutual_masturbation (44) -> masturbation (2458)

are all just not true

Enoch-Fox said:
pegging -> anal_dildo -> anal_masturbation
what

these are busted as fuck
the implications
are all just not true

I agree. These implications really should be deleted.

This is still a problem. Which mod do I have to blow to get handjob -> masturbation removed? It's a blight on the tagging system.

Ezalias said:
This is still a problem. Which mod do I have to blow to get handjob -> masturbation removed? It's a blight on the tagging system.

Aliases have been broken for months, we can't add or remove any without direct DB access.

We can remove aliases and implications, actually, we just can't create new ones, which is a much bigger problem.

The definition of masturbation is largely subjective. Therefore, opinions regarding this topic will always be different.

it may be subjective, but I think it's important to take what 'joe fur' would think into consideration. Most people, when thinking 'masturbation' will be thinking of someone manually stimulating them self.

I actually think that almost all of the implications here ought to be gotten rid of.

Let's see..

right now, these are the implications:

autocunnilingus -> masturbation
autofellatio -> masturbation
footjob -> masturbation
anal_dildo -> anal_masturbation
anal_masturbation -> anal
fingering -> masturbation
handjob -> masturbation
mutual_masturbation -> masturbation

I would propose

These are kept:
autocunnilingus -> masturbation
autofellatio -> masturbation
anal_masturbation -> anal
mutual_masturbation -> masturbation

These are deleted:
fingering -> masturbation
handjob -> masturbation
footjob -> masturbation
anal_dildo -> anal_masturbation

These are added:
anal_masturbation -> Masturbation

Fingering, and handjobs shouldn't suggest anything but digital stimulation of the genitals. people can search masturbation+fingering if they want to see people fingering themselves.

the only 'catch' with this would be the instance of a male fapping while fingering a female, or the other way around.

the "solution' would this would be to make things more complicated and adding new tags like Fingering_self or self_handjob or something, but given that there are 1700ish pictures in fingering and 1000 in handjob, that's a rather sizable task.

In that event, fingering_self would implicate masturbation and fingering.... but I honestly believe that thats' more implicated then it needs to be.

On the other hand, when the implications around masturbation are being fixed, someone(s) will already have to go through and clean up, so maybe adding new days would be not as much of a problem as anticipated...

that said, masturbation+fingering should be enough ;)

ippiki_ookami said:
The definition of masturbation is largely subjective. Therefore, opinions regarding this topic will always be different.

Fuck that noise. Masturbation is sexual self-stimulation. It's not something someone else can do to you.

i googled masturbation defintion and the only 2 results i opened both say it could be on someone else. i for one don't know. .-.

I dunno... Personally, whenever I think "Masturbation", I think it implies either one guy doing it to theirself or one girl doing it to theirself, except for maybe in the case of Mutual Masturbation.

Otherwise, it's just a handjob/fingering. That's just my mentality, though.