Topic: Artist tags: always append "_(artist)"?

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

I'd like to know how the mods feel about this:

When I create a new artist tag, I always add "_(artist)" at the end. So if there were an artist called "snugglebunny", the tag I'd create would be "snugglebunny_(artist)".

Currently, some artist tags end in "_artist" (disambiguation), but most don't. So if you're looking for all posts by the artist "cuddlewolf", you might as well search for "cuddlewolf*", because you have no way of knowing beforehand if the tag is ambiguous or not.

Updated by Lyokira

ktkr

Former Staff

I usually add '_(artist)' when the tag is also used for a character or when it's a common word/already used tag.

Updated by anonymous

I personally add the "_(artist)" at the end only if the artist has the same name as their character, otherwise I would leave it without adding the "_(artist)." Also, if I see if the tag is typed "_artist" I correct it to "_(artist)"

If I'm not mistaken, the tag would default to the correct wording if incorrectly written out. (in most cases)

Updated by anonymous

I .... jsut leave it as "artist:snugglebunny" myself. Snugglebunny isn't likely to pop up as a tag in and of itself.. unlike, say, the artist named fennec who tends to frustrate whenever he posts non-fox pictures ;)

it seems simpler this way... keep is short and simple, until logic comes up with a reason to make things more complicated.

my two cents :)

Updated by anonymous

Well, using both the artist: modifier and the _(artist) suffix on an artist's name that doesn't return any posts when searched with no suffix is redundant. Maybe search the artist's name beforehand, and if nothing comes up, just use the modifier.

Updated by anonymous

What bothers me more is that some fool decided that every single My Little Pony character needs to have _(mlp) added to her name, as if there are enough other Twilight Sparkless and Rainbow Dashes out there for a distinction to be needed.

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Hat said:
What bothers me more is that some fool decided that every single My Little Pony character needs to have _(mlp) added to her name, as if there are enough other Twilight Sparkless and Rainbow Dashes out there for a distinction to be needed.

That would be me. I make that decision not because of twilight sparkle and rainbow dash, but because of some of hte other characters with more common names... like Trixie, spike, celestia... and after looking at a few other franchises (like TMNT) where all of the characters have '_(TMNT)' after their names. also, at that point, there were about 10 MLP images on the site, and I'd uploaded about half of them. :P

what gets *me* is the person who decided that 'friendship is magic' and 'my little pony' needed to be separate tags.

~some fool

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SnowWolf said:

what gets *me* is the person who decided that 'friendship is magic' and 'my little pony' needed to be separate tags.

'My Little Pony' is the trademarked name of the cartoon and to distinct which series someone would want to search for, the tag "friendship_is_magic" is necessary because, even though the first cartoon series has a minuscule amount of images on here, the styling of the characters are vastly different and most people who like the new series aren't generally going to like the old series.

Updated by anonymous

That's true, Skeeter, but, for example, we only have one teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles tag. Yet, the 1987 series, the 2003 animates series, and (presumably) the 2012 series all have different--very different--styles. Not to mention, the live action series, the movies AND the two-episode anime they had. And also, the CGI film released in 2007.

Yet. One tag to rule them all. Despite wildly different styles. :)

I'm sure there are other examples as well. besides... I think there's maybe been... two or three non-friendship_is_magic MLP posts since this all began... and it really jsut adds confusion, as many of the "my_little_pony -friendship_is_magic" posts are friendship_is_magic. (or at least there are before I go through and fix it now D:< )

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and then again it leads to the wuestion - are only FiM character tagged with FIM? what about characters drawn in that style? it's jsut easier to go "ah, MLP" :P

Updated by anonymous

I usually tag the other way around, I don't append "_(artist)" at the artist tag but I append "_(character)" when there's a artist's character or a character with a very common name (or a name that's the same as a non-character tag).

SnowWolf said:
That's true, Skeeter, but, for example, we only have one teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles tag. Yet, the 1987 series, the 2003 animates series, and (presumably) the 2012 series all have different--very different--styles. Not to mention, the live action series, the movies AND the two-episode anime they had. And also, the CGI film released in 2007.

Yet. One tag to rule them all. Despite wildly different styles. :)

1. create the following tags and use them appropriately:

copyright:teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_(1987_series)
copyright:teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_(2003_series)
copyright:teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_(2012_series)
copyright:teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_(2007_film)
copyright:teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_(live_action_series)
copyright:teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_(anime)

2. connect tags through tag implications with the tag copyright:teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles

3. ????

4. PROFIT!!

Updated by anonymous

disclaimer: speaking in the purely hypotetical here:

okay, so we new have a bunch of tmnt tags that can be applied to the 300-ish TMNT pictures we have.

Thankfully, april_o'neil makes it pretty easy for us to tag. And she also makes it more difficult. Is this comic_april? is this supposed to be 1990_movie_april? well this one is clearly 1987_april... but is this a late 2003_april or a 2007_film_april? was this person going for a life action movie look, but cartooned it in the 1987 cartoon style?

how about post #111290/ which is very clearly in the artist's style and not any one series? or post #126174 where the turtles seem to be one series while april is none? or post #96478?

anyway..

this is all kinda off topic, an old topic, and a moot point. Especially as I'm essentially arguing against (or is it for?) my own point, because I believe that they should all be teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles, just like they should all be my_little_pony :p

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SnowWolf said:
disclaimer: speaking in the purely hypotetical here:

okay, so we new have a bunch of tmnt tags that can be applied to the 300-ish TMNT pictures we have.

Thankfully, april_o'neil makes it pretty easy for us to tag. And she also makes it more difficult. Is this comic_april? is this supposed to be 1990_movie_april? well this one is clearly 1987_april... but is this a late 2003_april or a 2007_film_april? was this person going for a life action movie look, but cartooned it in the 1987 cartoon style?

how about post #111290/ which is very clearly in the artist's style and not any one series? or post #126174 where the turtles seem to be one series while april is none? or post #96478?

anyway..

this is all kinda off topic, an old topic, and a moot point. Especially as I'm essentially arguing against (or is it for?) my own point, because I believe that they should all be teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles, just like they should all be my_little_pony :p

I don't think it's the style, but the continuity, that's important. Though admittedly sometimes continuity doesn't always have significant differences (for instance in terms of Sonic), but for certain franchises there may be significant difference. (e.g. Batman, Iron Man, Mickey Mouse, Transformers).

In my opinion for a guideline, we can go back to the basics: is it clearly from a specific continuity? If it is, we denote that continuity, otherwise we leave it clear.

Updated by anonymous

Lyokira said: In my opinion for a guideline, we can go back to the basics: is it clearly from a specific continuity? If it is, we denote that continuity, otherwise we leave it clear.

OKay but then it goes back to problem number one. This fan pony in the friendship is magic style, but clearly is just a fan creation. friendship_is_magic tag? or no?

and for THAT matter, by THAT arguement, the F_i_m characters in a crossover setting wouldn't apply.... as applejack-in-fall-out clearly isn't part of the regular continuity, lol.

Besides... tmnt isn't actually something I'm worried about (what continuity does the 4 turtle+april gangbang fit into again? :) ) and just pulled it up as a random example.

Updated by anonymous

SnowWolf said:
OKay but then it goes back to problem number one. This fan pony in the friendship is magic style, but clearly is just a fan creation. friendship_is_magic tag? or no?

and for THAT matter, by THAT arguement, the F_i_m characters in a crossover setting wouldn't apply.... as applejack-in-fall-out clearly isn't part of the regular continuity, lol.

Besides... tmnt isn't actually something I'm worried about (what continuity does the 4 turtle+april gangbang fit into again? :) ) and just pulled it up as a random example.

Opinions ahoy!
1) Fan ponies by themselves should not have the FiM tag imho. (Or even the MLP tag, for that matter. Does sonic-style get the sonic tag? I don't think so.)
2) Of interest: There's the original continuity Applejack, and the FiM Applejack. In the same way we have Adult Link and Toon Link, there should be a way to clearly denote which Applejack we are refering to, even if the original's nearly forgotten by now.
3) Alternate and/or crossover continuities should probably not have the FiM tag, because it can be considered an alternate continuity; Good example would be Smash bros, which it's crossover continuity is considered a unique continuity on it's own.

Updated by anonymous

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