Have we ever gotten an official ruling as to how TWYS applies to pooled comics?

It would seem to make sense that we use all the information available in previous pages of a work to more clearly tag things visible in each current image, seeing how sequential art is much more often read as a whole in a specific order than as separate instances in random sequence. If I'm not being clear enough, here's an example of a comic tagged in the way I'm proposing:

{Hello, PC here, gonna edit this so it'll be more appropriate as to TWYS. Don't take this anyway personally, it just helps the process of explaining.]

• Page 1: Half of what looks to be a cushy orange chair can be seen in the shot.
• Correspondingly, this image receives the chair tag.

{PC: This is the correct tag}

• Page 2: Now only a cushy, orange upper corner can be seen.
• While it no longer can be reasonably determined that that corner is actually a chair from this shot alone, by its properties and position, it's safe to assume that this is indeed the same object as the one seen on the previous page. Therefore, this image receives the chair tag as well.

(PC Note: This is not correct, as the object can no longer be clearly recognized as a chair and one must use outside context {What you see, not what you know}, it now gets the "UNknown Object" Tag, mind you I don't think we actually "Have" That tag. )

• Page 3: Plot twist: we are presented with a more zoomed out scene than either of those on the previous two pages, and it is revealed that what originally appeared to be a cushy orange chair is, in fact, a couch.
• Based on this new information, this image receives the couch tag instead; however, because the furniture piece's true identity was not revealed until just now, the previous images' chair tags remain unchanged.

(PC Note: This does indeed get a couch tag, and would not affect any prior images)

• Page 4: Our closing shot is much the same as the one on page 2, and again, only a cushy, orange upper corner can be seen.
• Even though two of our previous images' tags suggest that this item is a chair, because the most recent one has shown it to be a couch, this image receives the couch tag too.

(PC Note: again, we cannot clearly see the object, making it ambiguous in what exactly it is. Thus it gets the "unknown object" tag again. )

PC: Comics and pooled comics will have a few small things that can seperate them from other such things. Namely, they will be allowed to have their comic name on all the tags {Easier for black listers to smack em}, artist name, any character names, and the date when it was posted. We don't allow "Page numbers" For tags, but thats why the pools can be re-arranged.

If you see what looks like a chair, tag chair. If you see what looks like a couch, tag couch. TWYS should be self-explanatory, no ruling needed.

Tagging what you see in relation to the knowledge obtained from the pool's previous posts sounds like a pretty fair trade-off to me

Especially since a person who comes across an image that belongs to a pool for the first time is more than likely to notice that it belongs to a group, rather than a single piece

titaniachkt said:
Tagging what you see in relation to the knowledge obtained from the pool's previous posts sounds like a pretty fair trade-off to me

Especially since a person who comes across an image that belongs to a pool for the first time is more than likely to notice that it belongs to a group, rather than a single piece

No, tag what you see in that image only. All images are to be tagged on an as image basis.

Princess_Celestia said:
No, tag what you see in that image only. All images are to be tagged on an as image basis.

Even if it's evident they they're part of a set of images?

TWYS is and should be image specific, however, there should be an option to tag pools, which would make them searchable and could be used to better blacklist entire comics (or not, a setting if the blacklist should affect pools would be nifty for this).
That way it would be possible to search for a specific page of a comic or search an entire comic without the chance of an evil plot twist.
But yeah, that would take some time and sweat to properly program.

NotMeNotYouMobile said:
TWYS is and should be image specific, however, there should be an option to tag pools, which would make them searchable and could be used to better blacklist entire comics (or not, a setting if the blacklist should affect pools would be nifty for this).
That way it would be possible to search for a specific page of a comic or search an entire comic without the chance of an evil plot twist.
But yeah, that would take some time and sweat to properly program.

Comics can be black listed by name, making that whole point kinda invalid. Or if its all of just one character.

titaniachkt said:
Even if it's evident they they're part of a set of images?

Yes, even if its part of a set. If they are seperate images, and do not show the same context as their prior or next post, they would not get the same tags. Say for instance, you have a transformation picture. The first picture shows no transformation, and is a human male. It gets "Human Male." as its tags. The next post shows part of the transformation, it would get "Human male transformation" now, the next page shows it as more of a shark appearance, and has gone between male and female "intersex dickgirl/herm {Depending} shark transformation" and in the final page you get the finished product, a female anthromorphic shark girl {Female shark}. Pages must be tagged according to what is in the image, like most other things on the site, we only allow a very VERY miniscule amount of outside context {Artist name, year it was made, character names}

Princess_Celestia said:
Yes, even if its part of a set. If they are seperate images, and do not show the same context as their prior or next post, they would not get the same tags. Say for instance, you have a transformation picture. The first picture shows no transformation, and is a human male. It gets "Human Male." as its tags. The next post shows part of the transformation, it would get "Human male transformation" now, the next page shows it as more of a shark appearance, and has gone between male and female "intersex dickgirl/herm {Depending} shark transformation" and in the final page you get the finished product, a female anthromorphic shark girl {Female shark}. Pages must be tagged according to what is in the image, like most other things on the site, we only allow a very VERY miniscule amount of outside context {Artist name, year it was made, character names}

This system would not change any of that. It would merely augment any ambiguous items to their most recent discernible state; e.g., if the next page showed only the shark's ambiguous_gendered face, the image would instead receive the female tag because, from what we could last tell, the character is a female at this point in the sequence.

MaShCr said:
This system would not change any of that. It would merely augment any ambiguous items to their most recent discernible state; e.g., if the next page showed only the shark's ambiguous_gendered face, the image would instead receive the female tag because, from what we could last tell, the character is a female at this point in the sequence.

If it only showed the ambiguous_gender face, it would get the ambiguous_Gender tag, actually. Remember, we cannot use the other pages in the comic as context, as those are "What you know" not what "You see"

Princess_Celestia said:
If it only showed the ambiguous_gender face, it would get the ambiguous_Gender tag, actually. Remember, we cannot use the other pages in the comic as context, as those are "What you know" not what "You see"

If that's the ruling, then so be it. My only reasoning was that because the average user will read a pooled comic as a whole, it would be more beneficial for him if the scope of "what you see" was broadened to match that.

Princess_Celestia said:
Comics can be black listed by name, making that whole point kinda invalid. Or if its all of just one character.

Yes, but that is, at least in my opinion, the problem. The blacklist only works for the entire comic after you black list the specific comic, otherwise only a few pages get black listed and you may stumble through the little arrows on a not blocked page to a page you'd not want to see.

For example reiger's clusterfuck of fetishes , lets say you have no problem with bestiality but can't stand vore, the first few pages are visible to you because they contain no vore, only bestiality, while reading that thing you will stumble upon the vore eventually.
If it would be possibly to tag the pool itself, without affecting single images, you could either get a warning that this pool contains images you'd rather not see or black list it without seeing part/all of it.

It would only be a quality of life improvement no question there, however a side effect of this would be that it would become possible to search directly for pools by tags.
Right now it only is possible to see what is in a pool by either looking at the images in the pool or by reading the description, if there is one.

NotMeNotYou said:
Yes, but that is, at least in my opinion, the problem. The blacklist only works for the entire comic after you black list the specific comic, otherwise only a few pages get black listed and you may stumble through the little arrows on a not blocked page to a page you'd not want to see.

For example reiger's clusterfuck of fetishes , lets say you have no problem with bestiality but can't stand vore, the first few pages are visible to you because they contain no vore, only bestiality, while reading that thing you will stumble upon the vore eventually.
If it would be possibly to tag the pool itself, without affecting single images, you could either get a warning that this pool contains images you'd rather not see or black list it without seeing part/all of it.

It would only be a quality of life improvement no question there, however a side effect of this would be that it would become possible to search directly for pools by tags.
Right now it only is possible to see what is in a pool by either looking at the images in the pool or by reading the description, if there is one.

If it were possible to tag entire POOL overlays instead of individual images, then yes it would be...why "Can't" we tag pool over-views. hang on, I'ma go beat aurali and tony til they add that.

Princess_Celestia said:
If it were possible to tag entire POOL overlays instead of individual images, then yes it would be...why "Can't" we tag pool over-views. hang on, I'ma go beat aurali and tony til they add that.

:>

Like I said, the only thing in the way of this would be the time aurali and tony would need to invest.
But I think Char said he would like to see something like this, only that other things are more important at the moment.

We'll see.