I mean it. There's a distressing number of MLP images of ponies, which doesn't have the pony tag.

Consider tagging it yourself, hm?

Riversyde said:
Consider tagging it yourself, hm?

I could... but considering there's 10 pages of untagged MLP ponies, it might as well be a tagging project all in itself.. Not to mentionthat doesn't solve the root problem of people not tagging pony. :p

Lyokira said:
I could... but considering there's 10 pages of untagged MLP ponies, it might as well be a tagging project all in itself.. Not to mentionthat doesn't solve the root problem of people not tagging pony. :p

Give me a link to th e search that got them untagged and I'll tag them, otherwise don't complain or tag it yourself.

Holy shit.

my_little_pony -pony

SnowWolf said:
Holy shit.

my_little_pony -pony

Wow, that's alot of ponies... okay, nobody got that reference. Anyways, i think a lot of pony uploaders think, they only need to tag it "equine", or just simply tag it "horse". So to get this right, every pony needs all these three tags? If so we need to swap the "horse" tags with "pony" tags. I'll just start helping out by putting pony tags on the appropriate tags then, since i ain't got shit else to do...

Icedrake201 said:
Wow, that's alot of ponies... okay, nobody got that reference. Anyways, i think a lot of pony uploaders think, they only need to tag it "equine", or just simply tag it "horse". So to get this right, every pony needs all these three tags? If so we need to swap the "horse" tags with "pony" tags. I'll just start helping out by putting pony tags on the appropriate tags then, since i ain't got shit else to do...

Okay i was tagging for like 40 minutes:
At the beginning: "Oh 10 pages, that does seem like much"
40 minutes later: "Wow that was quite boring and tedious! Let me see how many are left. Wait... there are 10 pages left... and i exceeded my hourly limit... this is gonna take a while... FFFFFFUUUUUUUU-"

pony implies horse implies equine, IIRC. If it's a character given a name by the MLP wikia, use it. If not, unknown_pony.

123easy said:
pony implies horse implies equine, IIRC. If it's a character given a name by the MLP wikia, use it. If not, unknown_pony.

Yeah, i found that out myself, when i also found posts without the horse tag. Also, how many tags can a member put in hourly? Is it something like 100? I could look it up, but i'm currently in a hurry.

Yeah, it's 100.

On hindsight:

Should Princess Celestia and Nightmare Moon be tagged pony? They're drawn obviously larger than the other MLP, so their "pony" status is questionable..

Too big to be ponies. Call 'em horses.

I'd actually disagree with that; There may be miniature ponies that do remain around the size that the majority of the cast does, but looking at actual ponies you can see they range from minis to some that have their shoulders and withers at human shoulder-height.

Wiki gives us this: 'In modern use, many organizations define a pony as a mature horse that measures less than 14.2 hands (58 inches, 147 cm) at the withers, but there are a number of exceptions. Different organizations that use a strict measurement model vary from 14 hands (56 inches, 142 cm) to nearly 14.3 hands (59 inches, 150 cm). Many breeds classify an animal as either horse or pony based on pedigree and phenotype, no matter its height. Some full-sized horses may be called "ponies" for various reasons of tradition or as a term of endearment.'

Thus, they still should be classified as ponies, imo.

123easy said:
pony implies horse implies equine, IIRC. If it's a character given a name by the MLP wikia, use it. If not, unknown_pony.

Missed this bit. I disagree with unknown pony. We don't tag unknown_fox, unknown_cat, unknown_anything_else. Pony should be no different.

Unless you can magically get the height of Celestia and Nightmare Moon, we should not classify them as ponies. The six main characters are ponies, and given that Celestia and Nightmare Moon are much taller than them, they should be considered horses.

Lyokira said:
Missed this bit. I disagree with unknown pony. We don't tag unknown_fox, unknown_cat, unknown_anything_else. Pony should be no different.

We do have a tag for unknown_character.

Riversyde said:
Unless you can magically get the height of Celestia and Nightmare Moon, we should not classify them as ponies. The six main characters are ponies, and given that Celestia and Nightmare Moon are much taller than them, they should be considered horses.

We do have a tag for unknown_character.

And I'm of the opinion that it should be removed as well.

So then unknown_artist should be removed as well? that's the purpose of unknown_character and unknown_pony- To provide images that you don't know the character to with a specific tagme that lets others go through and tag with the character(s). unknown_pony I did at one time say should be rolled into unknown_character, but it was argued that it's different enough.

123easy said:
So then unknown_artist should be removed as well? that's the purpose of unknown_character and unknown_pony- To provide images that you don't know the character to with a specific tagme that lets others go through and tag with the character(s). unknown_pony I did at one time say should be rolled into unknown_character, but it was argued that it's different enough.

Ok, that's more understandable... but I'd think unknown_character_(mlp) would fit better than unknown_pony. That way if there's any other significant series (like pokemon ot anything else) they can use the same format.

regarding celestial and night mare moon -- I prefer to think of 'pony' as a race name. The main cast is clearly the same size as griffons and zebra...So.. pony makes more sense as a word like 'human' or 'elf')... and the two 'taller ponies' are just... far more mature versions of the 'regular' ponies. ... you don't tag a foal as 'mini pony' or something just because they're even smaller then the other ponies.

as for unknown_pony... I honestly don't like unknown_character tags. not every illustration has an attached story and character.. sometimes it's just "I drew this"... and there'sn o way to 'fix' the unknown_character tag...

Plus. unknown_character isn't used much at all, I don't think.

I would save the usage of both for characters that are clearly characters--the fox with gold and silver spiral markings, long blue hair, and shining gold earings, that appears in 3 or 4 pictures... verse a fox that is indistingushable from every other fox.

Pony is not a race or species. A pony is a small horse. Celestia and Nightmare are mature ponies, so they're horses!

Okay, i think i got most of the MLP pictures, that weren't tagged with "pony", tagged appropriately. I all posts with at least one pony in it, and there should only be pictures the non-equine cast, and the Celestia + Nightmare Moon ones. Then there were the ponified inanimate objects, like the one were they are military vehicles and the likes. That was like 700 posts i had to tag "pony". (0_O) That was quite tedious.

Riversyde said:
Pony is not a race or species. A pony is a small horse. Celestia and Nightmare are mature ponies, so they're horses!

A pony isn't automatically converted to just a horse when they mature. For example, shetland ponies are such the entire duration of their lives./ Honestly, the MLP cast seems to be portrayed as teenage ponies, with Celestia and Nightmare Moon as adult ponies.

That said, all ponies are horses anyways. :P

123easy said:
A pony isn't automatically converted to just a horse when they mature. For example, shetland ponies are such the entire duration of their lives./ Honestly, the MLP cast seems to be portrayed as teenage ponies, with Celestia and Nightmare Moon as adult ponies.

That said, all ponies are horses anyways. :P

Strictly speaking, Celestia/luna are deitys. Granny smith is a very old pony, clearly old.

I haven't been tagging with 'pony' unless it's an Earth Pony, as opposed to a Pegasus or Unicorn. That's why a number of mine were in there without 'pony'.

Skiltaire said:
I haven't been tagging with 'pony' unless it's an Earth Pony, as opposed to a Pegasus or Unicorn. That's why a number of mine were in there without 'pony'.

Yes well, Their still "Ponies" by the shows definition, please try to tag them as such. The only two "equines" in the show who are not ponies, are Zecora who is a Zebra and thus, not a pony, and Big Macintosh who is a draft horse.

Icedrake201 said:
Okay, i think i got most of the MLP pictures, that weren't tagged with "pony", tagged appropriately. I all posts with at least one pony in it, and there should only be pictures the non-equine cast, and the Celestia + Nightmare Moon ones. Then there were the ponified inanimate objects, like the one were they are military vehicles and the likes. That was like 700 posts i had to tag "pony". (0_O) That was quite tedious.

Wow. O_O good job! <3 Thank you <3

SnowWolf said:
Wow. O_O good job! <3 Thank you <3

Nah, it's cool. XD I didn't have anything else to do, so i just thought "why not?". Besides, i had some kickass music to listen to while i did it.
Back to ponies, should we tag them as she said?:

Princess_Celestia said:
Yes well, Their still "Ponies" by the shows definition, please try to tag them as such. The only two "equines" in the show who are not ponies, are Zecora who is a Zebra and thus, not a pony, and Big Macintosh who is a draft horse.

Honestly, I think not. while it's technically correct, it's one of those things that joe-average-fur won't know... for big mac, at least.

zecora is pretty obviously a zebra. :)

Riversyde said:
Pony is not a race or species. A pony is a small horse. Celestia and Nightmare are mature ponies, so they're horses!

This is true. So should all "pony" images instead be tagged "horse young?" As they sort of are?

123easy said:
Honestly, the MLP cast seems to be portrayed as teenage ponies, with Celestia and Nightmare Moon as adult ponies.

I've not watched the show much myself (just a few episodes) but it seems to me that the ones that aren't the Princesses or Big Mac or GrammaPony or whatnot are young, as 123 says. They act fairly young, they look fairly young. I'd say they're prrooobbably under "18."

In my mind, if we use "pony," it's either because it's a "species" of sorts that exists only in that show, and so is not inappropriate; or else we use it because they are in fact "young horses." If it's the latter, then it should be tagged with both "young" and "horse" instead. At the very least, "pony" should imply those two. And any other images with "young" and "horse" in them should have the "pony" tag added, though that's just shy of a page and would be a simple matter.

Edit: Gah. This brings in, however, images like post #141535. That would have to have the "pony" tag removed, as she does not look like a pony, i.e. young horse.

You can't have both. We either classify them as ponies because that's their "species" (it's in quotes because yes, I know pony is not a species. Nor is taur, but we have it thanks to fantasy games, so bear with me) in the show, or else we have it because young horses are ponies. I personally think it should be the latter; "pony" should imply both "young" and "horse" and all current images with those tags should have "pony" added. Images depicted the grown horses like Big Mac and Granny Apple should not be tagged with pony. If you try to have both, we get a conflict of meaning in the tag.

As I said, I'm not a fan, so I will certainly not close my mind to solid arguments against this reasoning. I do understand a desire to use pony instead of young, so that you can differentiate regular MLP from "Young" MLP, like post #133337. Nonetheless, I still think that they should BOTH be tagged "young."

Edit:This is more complicated than I thought....

Ponys *are* small horses, but they don't "grow up".. their 'full grown size' is pony sized. Pony can mean one of two things: a horse who's adult size is under a certain height, or a particular 'breed' of equine that is of smaller stature then your typical horse. (A good comparison would be... a human who is a dwarf/midget... and an actual DWARF with a beard and axe and stuff.) ... ponies make for good mounts for children who are learning to ride, due to their smaller size. :) Linguistically, there are variations, but as a general rule, they're a separate set of breeds. :)

A immature horse OR pony is called a foal for the first year, then, a yearling until they're adults. Fillies and colts are gender specific words, used until they're about 3 or 4, then they become mares and stallions/geldlings.

Most of the main cast of FIM are "adults". Rarity runs a business of her own, Applejack spends her days working on the farm, in parked contrast to the *fillies* on the show who ARE young who go to school and learn. the main cast "acts" young because it's a show aimed primarily at children, who need characters they can identify with. And "adult" pony isn't that. That's why celestia is larger then the others, and is also a 'parent' figure... as well as being a 1000+ year old "goddess".

So, in any event, a pony is not a young horse c_c;;;;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony

SnowWolf said:
Ponys *are* small horses, but they don't "grow up".. their 'full grown size' is pony sized. Pony can mean one of two things: a horse who's adult size is under a certain height, or a particular 'breed' of equine that is of smaller stature then your typical horse. (A good comparison would be... a human who is a dwarf/midget... and an actual DWARF with a beard and axe and stuff.) ... ponies make for good mounts for children who are learning to ride, due to their smaller size. :) Linguistically, there are variations, but as a general rule, they're a separate set of breeds. :)

A immature horse OR pony is called a foal for the first year, then, a yearling until they're adults. Fillies and colts are gender specific words, used until they're about 3 or 4, then they become mares and stallions/geldlings.

Most of the main cast of FIM are "adults". Rarity runs a business of her own, Applejack spends her days working on the farm, in parked contrast to the *fillies* on the show who ARE young who go to school and learn. the main cast "acts" young because it's a show aimed primarily at children, who need characters they can identify with. And "adult" pony isn't that. That's why celestia is larger then the others, and is also a 'parent' figure... as well as being a 1000+ year old "goddess".

So, in any event, a pony is not a young horse c_c;;;;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony

Well fuck me shitless. Indeed. Ignore everything I said beforehand XD