Over time, I've come to stumble across (well, more like other people have found and then linked me to) images of my own character. And even though I didn't upload them myself, I figured I still might as well make sure they're tagged right.

Here's an example of one of them http://e621.net/post/show/148885/2011-big_breasts-black-blush-bow-breasts-bulge-col

Now, someone tagged them all as "dani_skunk" for the character tag. However, the actual character name is just "Dani", and not "Dani Skunk". DaniSkunk is just the username I go by. It is the name used to identify me on websites and such, but "Skunk" isn't the last name for the character or anything (I never actually gave any last name). So basically to sum it up, I'm not sure how these images should be tagged. I don't know if they should be tagged as just "Dani" because that's the character name, or kept as "Dani_Skunk" like someone already tagged them, because that's my username.

I just don't use this site too often, and I'm not sure what the proper way to do things is.

"Dani," as that's the character's name.

RedOctober said:
"Dani," as that's the character's name.

Except tagging their character Dani would conflict with another character, also called Dani on here.
I would be fine with tagging their character as dani_(daniskunk).

Riversyde said:
Except tagging their character Dani would conflict with another character, also called Dani on here.
I would be fine with tagging their character as dani_(daniskunk).

My bad, didn't take the time to look. Yes, that works.

RedOctober said:
My bad, didn't take the time to look. Yes, that works.

Cool, brah. I'ma go fix it now then.

Derp.

Riversyde said:
Except tagging their character Dani would conflict with another character, also called Dani on here.
I would be fine with tagging their character as dani_(daniskunk).

I don't see why there can't be multiple characters with the same name on here. Different characters will come up in the results, but the name Dani still applies to all of them.

But they are two separate characters. A single character tag represents a single character. There needs to be a way to distinguish your characters from each other based on their character tags alone.

Also the two characters would share the same wiki page. This way you each get your own.

dani

dani_(daniskunk)

KloH0und said:
But they are two separate characters. A single character tag represents a single character. There needs to be a way to distinguish your characters from each other based on their character tags alone.

They are two separate characters, so I understand needing to distinguish between the two. But I'm just wondering, what designates one character to use the name tag over another character?

Hold up.

The original dani tag referred to dani_kiss, which appears to be a more specific name of the same character.

So dani should be converted to dani_kiss.

That would leave the "dani" tag free, but dani_(daniskunk) should be kept just in case another Dani rolls around. It's a rather inexplicit title; doesn't she have a last name or something?

KloH0und said:
Hold up.

The original dani tag referred to dani_kiss, which appears to be a more specific name of the same character.

So dani should be converted to dani_kiss.

That would leave the "dani" tag free, but dani_(daniskunk) should be kept just in case another Dani rolls around. It's a rather inexplicit name.

That's another thing I was meaning to point out, that the other images tagged with "Dani" as the character, those same images also have the character tagged as "Dani_Kiss" leading me to believe that the other Dani character does actually have the full name of "Dani Kiss" whereas mine would be just "Dani".

I suppose there may be more images posted with the name "Dani" so I understand the want to differentiate them still, however that makes it so when you search for "Dani" it brings up nothing, because you're not typing in the exact right tag. If someone was looking for a specific character, such as mine, they would have to search for "dani_(daniskunk)" to get any results. And although more Dani characters may come along, the one named "Dani Kiss" was posted over 2 years ago it seems, so it doesn't seem that common.

DaniSkunk said:
I don't see why there can't be multiple characters with the same name on here. Different characters will come up in the results, but the name Dani still applies to all of them.

All characters with the first name Dani can be found by searching for character tags starting with "dani_*" in the Tags section.

DaniSkunk said:
They are two separate characters, so I understand needing to distinguish between the two. But I'm just wondering, what designates one character to use the name tag over another character?

Popularity is definitely a factor. If someone posted a picture of their, or someone else's character called krystal, we wouldn't retag all ~1000 pictures of Krystal from Star Fox to krystal_(star_fox). We'd retag the lesser known character.

KloH0und said:
So dani should be converted to dani_kiss.

Yeah, it should.Wait, wait, wait, no, it shouldn't. Other people could have characters named Dani. Just retag that character's name to dani_kiss.

That would leave the "dani" tag free, but dani_(daniskunk) should be kept just in case another Dani rolls around. It's a rather inexplicit title; doesn't she have a last name or something?

Not that I could find...

DaniSkunk said:
That's another thing I was meaning to point out, that the other images tagged with "Dani" as the character, those same images also have the character tagged as "Dani_Kiss" leading me to believe that the other Dani character does actually have the full name of "Dani Kiss" whereas mine would be just "Dani".

I suppose there may be more images posted with the name "Dani" so I understand the want to differentiate them still, however that makes it so when you search for "Dani" it brings up nothing, because you're not typing in the exact right tag. If someone was looking for a specific character, such as mine, they would have to search for "dani_(daniskunk)" to get any results. And although more Dani characters may come along, the one named "Dani Kiss" was posted over 2 years ago it seems, so it doesn't seem that common.

Like I said before, you can search the index for dani_* to return tags starting with dani. Or search with the search tags function.

Two derp combo.

I actually think that this ought to be Dani_kiss, and Dani for daniskunk's character :) we can edit the wiki to reflect that it's a character belonging to daniskunk, and should be confused with dani_kiss... and if another Dani ever comes along, they can be Dani_(whatever)... or if daniskunk's faded int o the backdrop of the fandom, a new "dani" can take over

Riversyde said:
Yeah, it should.Wait, wait, wait, no, it shouldn't. Other people could have characters named Dani. Just retag that character's name to dani_kiss.

Sorry, I didn't mean to actually edit the tags themselves, just re-tag the images.

Which I did.

SnowWolf said:
I actually think that this ought to be Dani_kiss, and Dani for daniskunk's character :) we can edit the wiki to reflect that it's a character belonging to daniskunk, and should be confused with dani_kiss... and if another Dani ever comes along, they can be Dani_(whatever)... or if daniskunk's faded int o the backdrop of the fandom, a new "dani" can take over

Eh... not really a fan of this. It means we have to keep an eye on furry trends and whatnot and change tags accordingly. Unnecessary work.

SnowWolf said:
I actually think that this ought to be Dani_kiss, and Dani for daniskunk's character :) we can edit the wiki to reflect that it's a character belonging to daniskunk, and should be confused with dani_kiss... and if another Dani ever comes along, they can be Dani_(whatever)... or if daniskunk's faded int o the backdrop of the fandom, a new "dani" can take over

That is honestly what I think looks best. Especially since there is no last name, or any other part of the name to add on, as well as there is now no precedent for the Dani tag on here, since the other Dani has be re-tagged. This also means that the tag of Dani will never be used, if every character is tagged as "dani_(namehere)". Just my personal input on it.

I didn't think this would cause so much conversation with me asking about the tags, but looking at the options, I'm starting to think a tag of just Dani would look best.

DaniSkunk said:
That is honestly what I think looks best. Especially since there is no last name, or any other part of the name to add on, as well as there is now no precedent for the Dani tag on here, since the other Dani has be re-tagged. This also means that the tag of Dani will never be used, if every character is tagged as "dani_(namehere)". Just my personal input on it.

I didn't think this would cause so much conversation with me asking about the tags, but looking at the options, I'm starting to think a tag of just Dani would look best.

This isn't really about how the tag looks to you. This is about the tag's functionality and ease of use.

here's my thought River ._. it's nto a matter of furry trends: its' a matter that the character's owner is here and wanting her character tagged one way. We already allow people to tag species and gender and stuff on their own characters.. if they're here and willing to do the change, why not? As you said, it's not like we're retagging all of Krystal, just a hand full of pictures...

she could have just gone ahead and done it under the table and no one would have noticed... Hell I would have done this if I noticed while just scuttling around browsing.

SnowWolf said:
here's my thought River ._. it's nto a matter of furry trends: its' a matter that the character's owner is here and wanting her character tagged one way. We already allow people to tag species and gender and stuff on their own characters.. if they're here and willing to do the change, why not?

This isn't like tagging species and gender at all. With names, you can search one thing and get 2 or more completely different characters. When searching gender or species, what you search for is what you get. If we let this one have their character tagged as Dani, and another person comes along wanting their character tagged as Dani as well, it would cause some problems.

Also, having their character tagged as dani_(daniskunk) right now means we don't have to change it later when another person comes along with their character Dani.

she could have just gone ahead and done it under the table and no one would have noticed...

Dunno about no-one noticing, but this would have broken searching a bit, given that the dani_kiss character would still be tagged with Dani if it were not for this forum topic.

Hrm. Something I'd like to add about this... Why retag the pictures to remove dani and not just keep it as a metacharacter tag fora ll danis? Thus if you search for "dani" it gives you all dani-tagged pictures. If you know the specific dani you're looking for, you can search for that more specifically. Just a thought. (That way we can do without that hullabaloo of doing a dani* search which is counterintuitive unless you've made yourself quite familiar with the way the site works).

123easy said:
Hrm. Something I'd like to add about this... Why retag the pictures to remove dani and not just keep it as a metacharacter tag fora ll danis? Thus if you search for "dani" it gives you all dani-tagged pictures. If you know the specific dani you're looking for, you can search for that more specifically. Just a thought. (That way we can do without that hullabaloo of doing a dani* search which is counterintuitive unless you've made yourself quite familiar with the way the site works).

That's what I've been thinking myself. That way, if say someone was looking for me, they could search for "Dani" or they could refine their search by searching "Dani skunk" which would then search for the Dani tag as well as the skunk tag, and any images with my character would show up. Other, searching for just Dani brings up all characters. I didn't even know, in all this time here, that there was a wildcard search function by using an asterisk. To me I honestly see the method of just tagging it as [[Dani] as a more simple way for users to find things.

123easy said:
Hrm. Something I'd like to add about this... Why retag the pictures to remove dani and not just keep it as a metacharacter tag fora ll danis? Thus if you search for "dani" it gives you all dani-tagged pictures. If you know the specific dani you're looking for, you can search for that more specifically. Just a thought. (That way we can do without that hullabaloo of doing a dani* search which is counterintuitive unless you've made yourself quite familiar with the way the site works).

Would clutter up tags too much.

The way I'd been handling multiple same-named characters before was to just have their wiki pages all list each other under 'see also'(Or use the base, non-suffixed tag as a disambiguation page -- see, for example, 'molly'). Although arguably that doesn't help 'the average user' that much either, given that (last I knew; admittedly half a year ago...) 'the average user' didn't realize the site had a wiki... :|

Riversyde said:
Would clutter up tags too much.

And thye many, many other small things wouldn't? I think that for characters who share names it's not that big a dealto add just a single other tag for all of them to metatag to. We do it with plenty of other things like hair.

123easy said:
And thye many, many other small things wouldn't? I think that for characters who share names it's not that big a dealto add just a single other tag for all of them to metatag to. We do it with plenty of other things like hair.

Well, acct mentioned disambiguation pages... if the ambiguous tag modifier actually WORKED, we could make up a disambiguation page for "Dani", with a list of all characters whose names started with Dani. Before around August 30th last year, if you searched a tag marked as ambiguous, you'd see a box asking you to check the wiki page for disambiguation. I like this idea better than having a separate tag for characters with the same first name.

Riversyde said:
Well, acct mentioned disambiguation pages... if the ambiguous tag modifier actually WORKED, we could make up a disambiguation page for "Dani", with a list of all characters whose names started with Dani. Before around August 30th last year, if you searched a tag marked as ambiguous, you'd see a box asking you to check the wiki page for disambiguation. I like this idea better than having a separate tag for characters with the same first name.

That sounds like a reasonable compromise indeed. What's preventing the tech from working?

123easy said:
That sounds like a reasonable compromise indeed. What's preventing the tech from working?

It's broken. The box with the link to the wiki page doesn't show up.

Riversyde said:
It's broken. The box with the link to the wiki page doesn't show up.

To this, i have but one thing to say. LAME!