So I'm not sure how e621 works but I have been browsing here for a few weeks and was curious if this was another site "picky" about the artwork allowed to be "displayed". It amazes me that hentai sites like this one tend to have better quality pictures than say deviantart or what not.

I have a few pictures I want to upload but I'm not sure if they will be allowed here.

Lets start with the "better ones"

My character "Seamstress" from a "Super" rp on another site, can fly and has powers of any and all textiles can melt them to use them as a weapon or as defense and reform them to how they were orginally: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/unokitsune/Seamstressinunderwear.jpg

She's part of the formal group Phoenix Four composed of all female supers. This is her shortly before she joins the current Rp Group:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/unokitsune/Miranda.jpg

And here she is with her boyfriend, Morph, an alein super from another planet who can morph into anything and anyone male or female but in his natural form he's technically solid white and faceless unless he chooses to have one as well as a little boy, super, named Anem who she will officially adopt in case anything happens to his super surrogaunt brother.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/unokitsune/fixedpicture.jpg

Being this is mostly a fury site, which most of the furries here are so shiny and pretty, I tried to do one a Khajiit from a TES fanfic I'm currently writing:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/unokitsune/zeyeldenmalekhajiit-1.jpg

Then because I'm tired of seeing Female Body hermaphrodites, more commonly reffered to as "Dick Girls" I decided to Draw a Male version:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/unokitsune/boybodyvaginahermaphrodite.jpg

Is this good enough quality to join here or is this another "We're good you're not good enough go somewhere else!" site?

This is a furry-focused site, so it's highly likely any images you uploaded of purely human characters (no inhuman features like pointy ears or fangs or weird faces or whatever) will be deleted for being off-topic. Other than that, as long as the images you upload are of a good size (a good guideline is 500x500 pixels or greater) and good quality (no jpeg artifacts, no fuzzy scans, no photographs of paper, no crap mspaint drawings), they will likely be approved.

For some reference: order:score

Make sure you ask the artist for permission before you upload.

titaniachkt said:
For some reference: order:score

Unfortunately, ordering by score is pointless, since a good number of people vote based on kink, and not image quality. For instance, scat-related images generally have a negative score regardless of how good the image quality is.

As null said, be aware first that this is a furry-oriented site. Non-furry art stands a good chance of being deleted, based on whichever admin happens to come across it.

As for quality, using your male Khajiit as an example, I mean... nothing says you can't post it to the site (that I'm aware of), but the site's comments are... not curated. Which is a polite way of saying that you can expect a great deal of unhelpful criticism and negative votes.

We're not "elitist snobs"; quite the opposite, the problem is that our users are (with a few exceptions) a bunch of random shmucks who have no art training whatsoever but are utterly spoiled by high-quality content.

Since you're here, though, here's a few suggestions I would offer:

Avoid slinky strokes. Most especially avoid randomly changing the orientation of your slinky strokes when shading a large area. Look into hatching and cross-hatching, which are deliberate techniques for shading and applying texture to elements of an image.

If you're going to ink, keep your ink lines clean. Otherwise, what's the point?

Work big. I don't think I can estimate the size of the source image very well, but I think it was too small, for two reasons:

First, and most importantly, I think you tricked yourself into thinking you'd represented more detail than you did, especially with regards to the face, but even the sword has a basic problem of where it's clearly a type of broadsword or hand-and-a-half sword, yet the hilt and the blade do not follow a single straight line. Problems in the details become bigger when you up-size an image. They become smaller when you can down-size the image.

The second reason to work big is that at the image's current size, much of the pencil work looks like crayon. Consider how the image looks when resized down to 400x520, where you still get the texture of the pencil without the noticeable white gaps the pencil is leaving as different parts of the tip rub off on the paper.

Don't rush, ever. You spent so much time detailing that scalemail, but it looks like you completely punted on the wings. Which is a shame, because wings don't need to be hard. Google for wing drawings. Trust me.

Finally, it never hurts to look into how others draw things. I suspect you meant for the figure to be wearing chainmail instead of scalemail, but there is a distinct difference in texture between the two. Here's a good tutorial on drawing chainmail.

Cheers, and I hope this helps.

Also, just a thing to keep in mind. The "Quality of artwork" here has nothing to do with the background or history of the art or characters within it, but the visual quality of the picture itself. And is up to moderator discretion, and some mods are more picky then others. It may be deleted depending on who gets to it first, it may not be.

Lyokira said:
Unfortunately, ordering by score is pointless, since a good number of people vote based on kink, and not image quality. For instance, scat-related images generally have a negative score regardless of how good the image quality is.

Don't order the entire site by score, silly. Order specific kinks by score. Within a specific kink the score becomes meaningful. Cross-kink you learn more about what people prefer than about art quality.

Also, think of it as a rating of 'what do people browsing past this image like?' rather than a rating of 'how good is this image?' It's not a rating of the image's quality. It's a rating of what people like. Insofar as the image's score represents quality that is only because people prefer high quality to low.

31h253 said:
Don't order the entire site by score, silly. Order specific kinks by score. Within a specific kink the score becomes meaningful. Cross-kink you learn more about what people prefer than about art quality.

Also, think of it as a rating of 'what do people browsing past this image like?' rather than a rating of 'how good is this image?' It's not a rating of the image's quality. It's a rating of what people like. Insofar as the image's score represents quality that is only because people prefer high quality to low.

That again is only helpful if people stick to a single kink, but that isn't always the case. It's a rating of what people like, but image quality is only one factor to such.

Lyokira said:
Unfortunately, ordering by score is pointless, since a good number of people vote based on kink, and not image quality. For instance, scat-related images generally have a negative score regardless of how good the image quality is.

It also helps that most scat-related images are pretty poor anyway.

ikdind said:
As null said, be aware first that this is a furry-oriented site. Non-furry art stands a good chance of being deleted, based on whichever admin happens to come across it.

As for quality, using your male Khajiit as an example, I mean... nothing says you can't post it to the site (that I'm aware of), but the site's comments are... not curated. Which is a polite way of saying that you can expect a great deal of unhelpful criticism and negative votes.

We're not "elitist snobs"; quite the opposite, the problem is that our users are (with a few exceptions) a bunch of random shmucks who have no art training whatsoever but are utterly spoiled by high-quality content.

Since you're here, though, here's a few suggestions I would offer:

Avoid slinky strokes. Most especially avoid randomly changing the orientation of your slinky strokes when shading a large area. Look into hatching and cross-hatching, which are deliberate techniques for shading and applying texture to elements of an image.

If you're going to ink, keep your ink lines clean. Otherwise, what's the point?

Work big. I don't think I can estimate the size of the source image very well, but I think it was too small, for two reasons:

First, and most importantly, I think you tricked yourself into thinking you'd represented more detail than you did, especially with regards to the face, but even the sword has a basic problem of where it's clearly a type of broadsword or hand-and-a-half sword, yet the hilt and the blade do not follow a single straight line. Problems in the details become bigger when you up-size an image. They become smaller when you can down-size the image.

The second reason to work big is that at the image's current size, much of the pencil work looks like crayon. Consider how the image looks when resized down to 400x520, where you still get the texture of the pencil without the noticeable white gaps the pencil is leaving as different parts of the tip rub off on the paper.

Don't rush, ever. You spent so much time detailing that scalemail, but it looks like you completely punted on the wings. Which is a shame, because wings don't need to be hard. Google for wing drawings. Trust me.

Finally, it never hurts to look into how others draw things. I suspect you meant for the figure to be wearing chainmail instead of scalemail, but there is a distinct difference in texture between the two. Here's a good tutorial on drawing chainmail.

Cheers, and I hope this helps.

This is actually the most helpful feedback I have received in awhile. I never did have good colored pencil coloring and I often relied on Blender marker for colored pencil to make them look like markers. For you pointing out those on the Khajiit male has actually helped out a lot. I think I might be better at thread paint or something, like this http://unokitsune.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3hj9d8

And all the links of artwork I have posted in this post are my own.

If kinks are judged more than quality, how would say an "Ice cream" penis be judged? Like say a penis covered in cold icecream with chocolate syrup and whipping cream? I don't want to draw female hermaphrodites but anatomically correct females are fine.

Penis with ice cream on it? I can't speak for the rest of the community but for me, it'd depend on how well it was drawn more than anything else.

Another reference for mostly "good quality" work is to search by popularity. Go to the expanded site map (the >> after contact at the top of your window) and you can search by popularity over a time span (day, week, or month).

Actini said:
It also helps that most scat-related images are pretty poor anyway.

Most images are pretty poor, period. It's just that most people don't bother with other poor images. *shrug*

Furries have bad taste in artwork, so it's fundamentally impossible for a furry site to banish bad artwork.

JustFrame said:
Furries have bad taste in artwork, so it's fundamentally impossible for a furry site to banish bad artwork.

Not just furries, people in general. :p

Lyokira said:
Not just furries, people in general. :p

Actually, furry artwork is often worse than other forms of fanart for some reason.

Raiden_Gekkou said:
Actually, furry artwork is often worse than other forms of fanart for some reason.

That's seperate from having bad taste. It only means furries either have less avenues of engaging their likes, or feel a greater need to express themselves

Not to mention that at this point, I'd note we need to have a clearer definition of furry before we can continue with this thread of argument.

Good taste is essential in artists. It's not essential at all in fans... That aside, since this thread seems to have listed various ways to list the archives in order of popularity, I'd feel it was missing something if order:favcount weren't mentioned.

order:favcount as a search term lists one's search results in order of how many people favorited the artwork.

There's also order:favcount_asc and order:score_asc that invert the usual :score and :favcount terms.

31h253 said:
Good taste is essential in artists. It's not essential at all in fans... That aside, since this thread seems to have listed various ways to list the archives in order of popularity, I'd feel it was missing something if order:favcount weren't mentioned.

order:favcount as a search term lists one's search results in order of how many people favorited the artwork.

There's also order:favcount_asc and order:score_asc that invert the usual :score and :favcount terms.

I don't understand that code but thank you for the reference. Many of the same artists on the current popular though.

unokitsune said:
I don't understand that code but thank you for the reference.

Copy and paste it into the search box.

Just tried to upload some artwork but it won't let me saying I have exceeded my post limit which doesn't make sense seeing as how I have uploaded nothing :/

unokitsune said:
Just tried to upload some artwork but it won't let me saying I have exceeded my post limit which doesn't make sense seeing as how I have uploaded nothing :/

you havent been here long enough. try tomorrow

Forgive me for ressurecting this dying topic but is there a thread on this forum we can post our art or yet to be posted art for questions as to why it gets so many negative votes and isn't anything scat?

unokitsune said:
Forgive me for ressurecting this dying topic but is there a thread on this forum we can post our art or yet to be posted art for questions as to why it gets so many negative votes and isn't anything scat?

There are no such forum topics, since most people don't care.

I feel bad for you and everyone like you but if you honestly want to be a decent artist (or decent anything really) don't expect to get decent by experimentation, it'll either not work or take decades. You need to be mature and take what you do seriously, take a proper basic class, and practice the basics for the rest of your life.

I really hate the nicey, nice DeviantArt/Furry culture that let's people wallow in their mediocrity while in a critical vacuum. It just hurts everyone it the long run.

Harsh but true: You suck right now. There's no redeeming feature to your technical ability. You're in square -10 when you need to start from start from square 1.

hgf said:
I feel bad for you and everyone like you but if you honestly want to be a decent artist (or decent anything really) don't expect to get decent by experimentation, it'll either not work or take decades. You need to be mature and take what you do seriously, take a proper basic class, and practice the basics for the rest of your life.

I really hate the nicey, nice DeviantArt/Furry culture that let's people wallow in their mediocrity while in a critical vacuum. It just hurts everyone it the long run.

Harsh but true: You suck right now. There's no redeeming feature to your technical ability. You're in square -10 when you need to start from start from square 1.

You created a new account just to troll? You're too afraid of posting using your real account?

I don't focus on one type of artwork and using 1 program for it, Rather I do a variety like sew clothes ((something which many people can't do)) Make dolls, do embroidery and thread paint as well as clay figurines. Most of the artists here can only draw and paint. Good for them.

I also noticed something about the furry kingdom over the standard art kingdom, most are rather sad and rude and must lead a real life lonely existence unless in the presence of other so call trollolololololols.

hgf said:
I feel bad for you and everyone like you but if you honestly want to be a decent artist (or decent anything really) don't expect to get decent by experimentation, it'll either not work or take decades. You need to be mature and take what you do seriously, take a proper basic class, and practice the basics for the rest of your life.

I really hate the nicey, nice DeviantArt/Furry culture that let's people wallow in their mediocrity while in a critical vacuum. It just hurts everyone it the long run.

Harsh but true: You suck right now. There's no redeeming feature to your technical ability. You're in square -10 when you need to start from start from square 1.

Really? Well I feel bad for you and people like you, full of ignorant naivity and a false feeling of heirarchy amongst others when in actuality your ideas are flawed from the roots of whenst they came. First, nobody starts off doing anything and is immediately amazing, it takes time and practice... But that does not mean that classes or professional training is required by any means to be good at something, merely friendly advice and hints can work wonders. There hasnt always been art classes to help people throughout time however there seemed to be plenty of arrists throughout time that created masterpieces.

Second, who are you to say who sucks, who doesnt, whats great, whats awful, or pass any judgement whatsoever? Are you god? Are you a world renown art critique? A legendary artist? Highly unlikely. And regardless of how great you might think you are at anything I guarantee there is at least a thousand people out there better than you at anything you claim to be great at... So before jumping on someone why not enjoy a slice of humble pie and wash it down with some logical thought.

hgf said:
ANGRY WORDS

Yup, this is pretty much what I meant when I said "not curated".

I keep reading this thread at times when I don't have time to reply. I'd never heard of thread painting before. Uno, that dragon you did was pretty cool!

oh, you

ikdind said:
Yup, this is pretty much what I meant when I said "not curated".

I keep reading this thread at times when I don't have time to reply. I'd never heard of thread painting before. Uno, that dragon you did was pretty cool!

Thank you very much. Thread painting is embroidery it's what those who embroidery call it. It's basically painting via sewing. Each colour represents a different thread that had to be woven into the machine and unwoven for a different colour. Many rely on machines costing thousands of dollars, some of those machines are worth the amount you can pay to get yourself a new car. However this was done with a free motion foot and 2 days of time ((especially those scales)).

The benefit of threadpainting is it becomes wearable art and you can have it sewn on to your favorite jacket or pants or something, or even a reuseable shopping bag!.