Topic: Crappily Fan Colored/Mutilated Submissions

Posted under Art Talk

Recently I have noticed a rash of fan-colored submissions being submitted to e621. Now, these are good quality lineart/greyscale artworks by some fairly skilled artists, but the coloring job is obviously fan-made by some 13 year old douchebag.

These coloring jobs look like someone used the paint bucket tool -- and nothing else. It is very obvious by the contrast of the high-quality of the lineart versus the low skill of the coloring that the submission was fan-colored by an amatuer, and not the original artist.

Anyway, I was wondering how I, the user, should respond when encountering these fan-defiled eyesores.

Should I:
A. Request delete?
B. Upload the original un-paint-bucketed undefiled work?
C. Add a tag to the submission to denote that it has been "fan_mutilated"?

Updated by jebus

I'd recommend B and making it the parent post of the shitty coloration, possibly followed by A if the coloration is honestly that bad (as in, JPEG artifacts resulting in strong white borders around lines, et cetera).

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acct0283476 said:
I'd recommend B and making it the parent post of the shitty coloration, possibly followed by A if the coloration is honestly that bad (as in, JPEG artifacts resulting in strong white borders around lines, et cetera).

Ok, but is option "C" an appropriate response if I don't have the original/can't find it at the moment? Or is it not appropriate to ever tag submissions as either "fan_edited" or "fan_mutilated"?

Thank you though for the answer. I like your tip of submitting the original as a parent of the fan-colored work.

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ferretsage said:
Ok, but is option "C" an appropriate response if I don't have the original/can't find it at the moment? Or is it not appropriate to ever tag submissions as either "fan_edited" or "fan_mutilated"?

I dunno. There are already a couple (barely-used) tags lying around for that sort of thing, and it seems a reasonable way of labeling them to me. There's usually only one or two for each tag, though, so they should probably be tidied up a bit if it's to be any use in identifying them.

Updated by anonymous

I say B, it makes the most sense, A is to overeacting and C is just childish, just because you think there "mutilated" don´t mean your opinion should be a tag upon a image, if you need a tag so you can black list them I suggest "fan_coloured" less offensive.

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I'm going to go with Cyborgcat's opinion. B is obvious, if you have the original, post it! While you're at it, parent it. You're making e621 a better place.

Unless the admins weigh in to say that A is okay, it just doesn't seem like A or C are conducive to making this a better place. "fan_coloured" or similar would be an appropriate tag, as it's a statement of fact about the image, but "fan_mutilated" is an opinion. Even if you're right, tags aren't meant for opinions.

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Cyborgcat said:
I say B, it makes the most sense, A is to overeacting and C is just childish, just because you think there "mutilated" don´t mean your opinion should be a tag upon a image, if you need a tag so you can black list them I suggest "fan_coloured" less offensive.

I appreciate your input, but I am inclined to take your advice with a grain of salt, since you were blocked 3 months ago for "argu[ing] tagging arbitration". The moderator used some pretty strong personal descriptive words when you were blocked, so I can only assume that your personal view of how tagging should be handled does not necessarily reflect the moderator's opinions.

I am unsure if I should accept your conclusion that, "A is to(sp.) overeacting(sp.) and C is just childish" since these paint bucket fan-edited submissions are rather pathetic and full of fail. I feel such poor edits are just taking up unnecessary disk space, and that nothing is lost by requesting their deletion or tagging them as the failures they are, but I will keep your assessment in mind. I trust acct0283476's opinion because he possesses a privileged account that he earned through good behavior on this site, which demonstrates that he knows correct behavior. I prefer his advice. I will do my part to keep this discussion civil.

ikdind said:
... but "fan_mutilated" is an opinion. Even if you're right, tags aren't meant for opinions.

You may be right there. Thank you for the input. As a relatively new user I appreciate the candid advice! I think the tag "fan_edited" is a nice neutral term that everyone can support. :)

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ferretsage said:
I appreciate your input, but I am inclined to take your advice with a grain of salt, since you were blocked 3 months ago for "argu[ing] tagging arbitration". The moderator used some pretty strong personal descriptive words when you were blocked, so I can only assume that your personal view of how tagging should be handled does not necessarily reflect the moderator's opinions.

I don´t see how a previous block would make my input any less valid then any others, especially when the ban was because I removed a mods tag because in principle it was a invalid tag.

Updated by anonymous

All posts are moderator reviewed, so if something does look like a five minute MS Paint job, it'll get deleted anyway.

The 'edit' tag is for these kinds of things.

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Cyborgcat said:
if you need a tag so you can black list them I suggest "fan_coloured" less offensive.

This is by far the most accurate name for a tag, and the one I would personally assume being the correct one.

Updated by anonymous

Uhhh, I meant 'what's wrong with using these tags instead of making a new one?'

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FurZ said:
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Sounds like a tag implication that should be approved on April 1, 2011. :P

Updated by anonymous

Y'know, honestly, on the subject of 'fans' and 'crap', I really think those creepy "I wanna fukk him in da butttt" comments should become a bannable offense.

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Ultima_Weapon said:
This thread makes me think of something. Can't quite put my finger on it. Oh yeah, post #81119

yea but that was funny

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