What kind of friend? Well you'd be hard pressed to find anyone call you a good friend I'll tell you that much. Thank god this is over.

How is he even walking?

So it's just a ruse so that Judy'll get hooked up with Gideon even though he's dating Sharla? I mean the sex parts were nice but wtf is with the story?

If you're not even going to try to have things make sense in your series, then why bother to have any kind of a plot in the first place? Just draw Judy and Nick having threesomes or whatever else. This whole thing is just... like... ugh.

wow.....this wasn't expected

rhyolite said:
How is he even walking?

barely, that's how

Toothless-chan said:
So it's just a ruse so that Judy'll get hooked up with Gideon even though he's dating Sharla? I mean the sex parts were nice but wtf is with the story?

You know, THE PORN LOGIC

I did not see this coming

And so it ends... As a furry porn comic it was ok, but as Zootopia erotica it leaves a lot to be desired. Adam Wan can certainly draw the characters well and the backgrounds of the Mystic Oasis were good, but the story pretty much butchers the characterizations of Judy, Nick, and Gideon.

Judy goes from reserved and uncomfortable to blatantly sexual so quickly it makes your head spin. Nick behaves like a smug asshole for the entire story and functions as little more than a fox-shaped cock-sleeve. Then we learn the whole bet was just a hustle to get Judy to hook up with Gideon who starts off shy, unassuming and affectionate but morphs into a character that has a mother/daughter fixation, has consensually cuckolded Judy's father, cheats on his girlfriend and appears to get more enjoyment reminiscing about his time with Bonnie than he does from actually screwing Judy. It concludes with Nick patting himself on the back for being such a good friend in arranging all this.

It seems like if you're going to craft a story where the whole point is getting Judy and Gideon together, you'd want to show Gideon in a somewhat appealing light. Especially since it's a niche ship and Wan is apparently wanting to make money off the story. But despite Gideon's initially pleasant introduction, once the "bow chicka bow wow" music starts, his portrayal devolves and it's hard to see Judy ever wanting to meet up with him again after "winning" the bet.

It does make you wonder, as some have reported, if the story is just Wan giving a big FU to his Patreon complainers. Either way, while artistically well drawn, story-wise it's not really a high point of Zootopia erotic fiction.

*sigh*

The last time I was this confused, I was writing my math exam

At it's peak (around the time Nick was getting plowed by the tigers) this comic really had me going. But the payoff was a real let down and not in the way we're used to from Adam Wan. This wasn't a 'fuck you I'm doing it because I'm Adam Wan and I'll do whatever I want'. It was more of a 'fuck it I'm ending it like this because I can't think of a better ending'.

Grummancat said:
At it's peak (around the time Nick was getting plowed by the tigers) this comic really had me going. But the payoff was a real let down and not in the way we're used to from Adam Wan. This wasn't a 'fuck you I'm doing it because I'm Adam Wan and I'll do whatever I want'. It was more of a 'fuck it I'm ending it like this because I can't think of a better ending'.

Pretty sure he did both of those reasons.

AlbineFox said:
I think this ending was due to all of the WildeHopps shippers complaining.

In a way I can understand why he did it. Shipping became the most toxic thing in this fandon.

Nah, so far, the shipping is fine. Nothing major, it isn't Voltron or Undertale fandom levels of bad yet.

AlbineFox said:
I think this ending was due to all of the WildeHopps shippers complaining.

In a way I can understand why he did it. Shipping became the most toxic thing in this fandon.

Shipping is the most toxic thing in any fandom, but at the same time it's shipping that are keeping it afloat. Zootopia isn't special in this regard, in fact, it's damn mild what we have had of disagreements compared to other fandoms.

I'm downvoting this because Adam kept teasing Finnick but didn't do anything with him

AlexanderMugetsu said:
Pretty sure he did both of those reasons.

The middle stuff (gay Nick, no wildehopps) was definitely for the former reason. What I didn't expect was that the ending would feel like a bad 3rd-tier fanfic ending by someone who just stopped caring about the story they were writing.

virtualhideout said:
Shipping is the most toxic thing in any fandom, but at the same time it's shipping that are keeping it afloat. Zootopia isn't special in this regard, in fact, it's damn mild what we have had of disagreements compared to other fandoms.

I've already seen tons of people leave the fandon because they got tired of the "WildeHopps or leave it" mentality. The problem is that a lot of shippers got very vocal about their ship and they just have to make sure everyone knows how wrong they are in case they don't ship Nick and Judy.

The whole condescendent act with "we're just teasing people" turned a lot of people off the fandon.

AlexanderMugetsu said:
Pretty sure he did both of those reasons.

Nah, so far, the shipping is fine. Nothing major, it isn't Voltron or Undertale fandom levels of bad yet.

I never went to the undertale fandon but Zootopia is not that much better than it.

Remember, this is a fandon about a movie that has its whole message about people admiting they have biases and fighting them but it's fandon is close minded, biased and hateful to everything that does not fit in the way the majority thinks.

Basically, it might not be the worse fandon (yet) but it is the most hypocritical fandon out there.

Toothless-chan said:
So it's just a ruse so that Judy'll get hooked up with Gideon even though he's dating Sharla? I mean the sex parts were nice but wtf is with the story?

The sex parts nice? 90% of the time judy was in the same exact shot, same angle, and same position. For like 8 pages straight

virtualhideout said:
Shipping is the most toxic thing in any fandom, but at the same time it's shipping that are keeping it afloat. Zootopia isn't special in this regard, in fact, it's damn mild what we have had of disagreements compared to other fandoms.

Nah mate, some fandoms have worse things than shipping.

Take FNAF fandom for example. Shipping is just mildy cringy at worst here. It's the theories that are worse here.

AlbineFox said:

I never went to the undertale fandon but Zootopia is not that much better than it.

Remember, this is a fandon about a movie that has its whole message about people admiting they have biases and fighting them but it's fandon is close minded, biased and hateful to everything that does not fit in the way the majority thinks.

Basically, it might not be the worse fandon (yet) but it is the most hypocritical fandon out there.

Well the Steven Universe fandom, one based on a show about love and acceptance, once goaded an artist into attempting suicide just because they disliked how she had drawn Rose.

As bad as we might be, we are nowhere near that bad, even hypocritical wise.

Duke_Ysellian said:
Lets not repeat post 475800

This is Adam Wan were talking about.

rva98014 said:
And so it ends... As a furry porn comic it was ok, but as Zootopia erotica it leaves a lot to be desired. Adam Wan can certainly draw the characters well and the backgrounds of the Mystic Oasis were good, but the story pretty much butchers the characterizations of Judy, Nick, and Gideon.

Judy goes from reserved and uncomfortable to blatantly sexual so quickly it makes your head spin. Nick behaves like a smug asshole for the entire story and functions as little more than a fox-shaped cock-sleeve. Then we learn the whole bet was just a hustle to get Judy to hook up with Gideon who starts off shy, unassuming and affectionate but morphs into a character that has a mother/daughter fixation, has consensually cuckolded Judy's father, cheats on his girlfriend and appears to get more enjoyment reminiscing about his time with Bonnie than he does from actually screwing Judy. It concludes with Nick patting himself on the back for being such a good friend in arranging all this.

It seems like if you're going to craft a story where the whole point is getting Judy and Gideon together, you'd want to show Gideon in a somewhat appealing light. Especially since it's a niche ship and Wan is apparently wanting to make money off the story. But despite Gideon's initially pleasant introduction, once the "bow chicka bow wow" music starts, his portrayal devolves and it's hard to see Judy ever wanting to meet up with him again after "winning" the bet.

It does make you wonder, as some have reported, if the story is just Wan giving a big FU to his Patreon complainers. Either way, while artistically well drawn, story-wise it's not really a high point of Zootopia erotic fiction.

And I thought 'Servants Of The Serpent' was bad.

I mean, it still is, but this I think it actually worse. Insulting to the original source-work (at least SotS was original) and with even worse twists.

At least SotS had an ending that made some semblance of sense. This just created a plot-hole for an ending.

That's it??

Numbers39 said:
That's it??

Your picture seems to go well with your comment.

AlexanderMugetsu said:
Well the Steven Universe fandom, one based on a show about love and acceptance, once goaded an artist into attempting suicide just because they disliked how she had drawn Rose.

As bad as we might be, we are nowhere near that bad, even hypocritical wise.

The only difference is because there was no chance for them to do it yet. I bet if a Disney executive confirmed no WildeHopps in second movie the annoying shipping side of the fandon would riot.

AlbineFox said:
The only difference is because there was no chance for them to do it yet. I bet if a Disney executive confirmed no WildeHopps in second movie the annoying shipping side of the fandon would riot.

Maybe.

But despite my obvious love for, I wouldn't riot.

Will I be angry and upset, sure, but still, it's not as if there's a lack of fanart and fanfictions to keep me happy.

What’s with the ENDLESS bitching in every Zaush comic comment section?

fizzymcbon said:
This cuck shit needs to stop.

I've noticed that whenever a furry artists seems to stray into this territory, it only gets worse. That is, said themes are always present. even if it's just a random panel shoe-horned in the middle of a comic for no reason at all

What's nice about E6, is this is probably the only place I know of where furries exist who actually dislike cuckolding/cheating/netorare. In other words, an actual difference of opinion. Which is nice to know that there are still some redeemable people out there who don't care for it, because when all you ever see across other sites are people singing its praises followed by a bunch of mysteriously deleted comments, you tend to get the wrong idea about a lot of artists and furries.

Numbers39 said:
That's it??

I get it! Adam Wan was spoofy the Seinfeld ending! :P

MurTheHuman said:
I've noticed that whenever a furry artists seems to stray into this territory, it only gets worse. That is, said themes are always present.

What's nice about E6, is this is probably the only place I know of where furries exist who actually dislike cuckolding/cheating/netorare. In other words, an actual difference of opinion. Which is nice to know that there are still some redeemable people out there who don't care for it, because when all you ever see across other sites are people singing its praises followed by a bunch of mysteriously deleted comments, you tend to get the wrong idea about a lot of artists and furries.

Who would've guessed a site aimed primarily at furry porn of any kinds would have furries with decent opinions?

Adam Wan and Jay Naylor are our unwanted cucklords. I can't stand all the cuck being put out. Honestly, the plot of this has to purposely be a big f-u to the patreons who complained about his switch on the vote. It's difficult to imagine that the artist considers Gideon cucking Stu and entering some weird mother/daughter obsessed relationship is worth Nick's "humble" actions to bring a happy couple together.

Why all the downvotes?

MurTheHuman said:

What's nice about E6, is this is probably the only place I know of where furries exist who actually dislike cuckolding/cheating/netorare. In other words, an actual difference of opinion. Which is nice to know that there are still some redeemable people out there who don't care for it, because when all you ever see across other sites are people singing its praises followed by a bunch of mysteriously deleted comments, you tend to get the wrong idea about a lot of artists and furries.

The part where you like that e621 is nice for its difference of opinion from other places is fine. The part where you label people with a different fetish from you as “irredeemable” is pretty shitty.

Wow someone pulled a jasonafex

It feels mean to say a comic is only good for the art and the story is meaningless, but... I'd say that's pretty accurate for this one. The illustrations are really well done, but I'd enjoy it just the same if not more so if all of the dialogue were removed at this point.

I mean, the "cucking" theme (I don't know what else to call it, honestly) isn't always bad and I can see the appeal, but... it's almost always written in this really poor, unrealistic and unpleasant way by most creators. There's probably good examples of it out there somewhere, but I guess they're not getting noticed as much.

FireTheFoxxo said:
Why all the downvotes?

Read through the comments.

king_cong54 said:
Those of you criticizing the creator, take a second to realize that you are actually complaining about a furry porn comic's plot. Let that sink in...

This is stated almost every single time a discussion comes up, and it's never made any sense. Being pornographic or not isn't relevant in the slightest.

Besides, this kind of discussion is still better than usual cringey commentfests most images get.

king_cong54 said:
Those of you criticizing the creator, take a second to realize that you are actually complaining about a furry porn comic. Let that sink in...

On the one hand, I can get behind a subculture that stops treating sex like it’s this filthy thing that belongs in poorly written throw-away gutter trash that should be segregated from art. On the other hand, I don’t look forward to the encroaching snobbishness and mob mentality that comes with it that feels the need to treat creators and fans of the “wrong” parts of the fandom like shit, then dismissively gloats, pats one another on the back, and spams “and nothing of value was lost” gifs if the artist gets frustrated and rage quits.

Not that I’m accusing anyone in this comment section of doing all of those things, but I’ve seen it plenty on e621 and elsewhere. We’re here for fun, people are going to have their flaws and idiosyncrasies, some of them are going to be a bit thin skinned or overly sensitive occasionally, we don’t need to escalate the issues. I’m guilty of this myself btw so I’m not preaching by any means. But I think it would overall be a more pleasant experience.

Holy fuck. Does it seem to anyone else that Adam Wan just RAGEQUIT the comic after the response to the last page? adding in that final stab of Gideon and Judy hooking up on a more permanent basis, just to piss off everyone who disagreed with how things were going?

CandleJake said:
Holy fuck. Does it seem to anyone else that Adam Wan just RAGEQUIT the comic after the response to the last page? adding in that final stab of Gideon and Judy hooking up on a more permanent basis, just to piss off everyone who disagreed with how things were going?

Not likely. The complete comic has been posted in it's entirety on other websites beyond furraffinity for a few weeks now. So it's unlikely that the opinions of e621 affected the ending at all.

rva98014 said:
Not likely. The complete comic has been posted in it's entirety on other websites beyond furraffinity for a few weeks now. So it's unlikely that the opinions of e621 affected the ending at all.

Not 100% on this, but i believe it had something to do with patreons voting how the comic should have gone, and said artist not liking their collective ship of judy+wilde.

Ive nothing against Gideon myself, but when it comes to the character Gideon feels more like he would be a friend, much like in the movie. His personality does not fit the character. Same with Judy or Nick in this case.

AlbineFox said:
And also, Adam Wan is very well KNOWN for the cuck fetish, criticizing him for it is like criticizing furry artists for having furries in their porn.

The point is that the usage of the fetish in this story is poorly done. It doesn't flow well or make much sense by comparison to everything else going on in the comic.

I was gone for 4 hours and the downvotes just sparked holy shit.

rhyolite said:
How is he even walking?

post #1391586

Que?

43 comments hidden huh? i get somone inserted his or her character breaking fetish huh? lol happens

Cloppingyiffer said:
Honestly, the plot of this has to purposely be a big f-u to the patreons who complained about his switch on the vote.

I keep hearing about this what happened? Could someone explain it in full?

Duke_Logan said:
I keep hearing about this what happened? Could someone explain it in full?

I don't know firsthand so take this with a grain of salt, but from what I heard he offered a poll on his Patreon to decide the pairing / pairings that would be featured in this comic. Naturally Judy x Nick won, but he didn't want to do that so he chose not to and just ignore the poll results. It's also possible some of the moves made in the comic are deliberately trying to anger those who complained about him avoiding the poll results, too. (Obviously that's a lot harder to prove, though.)

rhyolite said:
How is he even walking?

Imagination.

Reptard said:
What’s with the ENDLESS bitching in every Zaush comic comment section?

For some people, it's just a hobby...for others it's the sole purpose of their existence.

Qwazzy said:
I don't know firsthand so take this with a grain of salt, but from what I heard he offered a poll on his Patreon to decide the pairing / pairings that would be featured in this comic. Naturally Judy x Nick won, but he didn't want to do that so he chose not to and just ignore the poll results. It's also possible some of the moves made in the comic are deliberately trying to anger those who complained about him avoiding the poll results, too. (Obviously that's a lot harder to prove, though.)

Clearly the goal was to cuck his supporter base themselves by asking what they wanted and forcing them to accept something completely different.

When I saw the thumbnail: Why so many dislikes????
When I clicked on it: Oh... okay, that's fair.

I think I understand all the down votes and such...I think...

Anyway, while I liked the art and character design in this comic the story was a bit confusing.

Quite a few furry porn comics nowadays are like this. They have great art, but not so good stories and themes.

Embracethechaos said:
When I saw the thumbnail: Why so many dislikes????
When I clicked on it: Oh... okay, that's fair.

I thought the first bit but still dont get the downvotes.

wolfman28 said:
I think I understand all the down votes and such...I think...

Anyway, while I liked the art and character design in this comic the story was a bit confusing.

Quite a few furry porn comics nowadays are like this. They have great art, but not so good stories and themes.

Yes... wan like so many others have focused more on quality of art rather than story... though i don't entirely blame them good stories only get harder to come up with as time goes by... i really should start writing my one then... hmm.

wolfman28 said:
I think I understand all the down votes and such...I think...

Anyway, while I liked the art and character design in this comic the story was a bit confusing.

Quite a few furry porn comics nowadays are like this. They have great art, but not so good stories and themes.

It's what you get when good artists think that being good artists makes them good writers. It doesn't help that they tend to have a core fanbase that will praise them no matter what they do, and the ability to self-moderate out any feedback that isn't positive.

Man, with that many downvotes I would have thought this was a page from Deception: By Master Ploxy.

This comic makes no fucking sense... It's nice sexually but this story makes me cringe...

Decent sex scenes, but an insanely rushed and confusing story. It's especially noticeable on this page, where it seems like Adam just gave up and pushed out this page when there were probably many more pages that were supposed to come out in between.

Aw. If this is the end, this was an amazing sexy comic for Zootopia.

Even if some of the dialogue is corny, some of those sex pairs and shots were just rich and beautiful with the cum effects.
I mean Judy with the two neighbors, and Gideon at the end, Imma fap back to those a lot. And Nick with the two tigers.

Please by all means, for the original artist, more you artistic god.

rva98014 said:
So it's unlikely that the opinions of e621 affected the ending at all.

Of course. But you can take e621 as a litmus test for the fandom. If they react one way, it's very probable that others would have reacted exactly the same. Maybe not on FA where it's a goddamned hugbox of sucking artist dick, but elsewhere? Sure.

If you don't understand me, it's because is in Portuguese From Brazil:

Eu odiei demais, sério...

Adam ama fazer atrocidades, ele desenha as comics dele como se ele odiasse amor reciproco, sério. Não é a primeira vez, ele já é o autor de Daddy's Little Secret, que a historia simplesmente tende a mulher trair o marido e o marido fuder com a FILHA dele pra compensar, e pra piorar, ele tambem da pra o amigo dela que decidiu que ia fuder a filha e a amiga dela. É no minimo frustante demais, e não é por poucos motivos.

Não vou reclamar dele fazendo isso, sinceramente, todo mundo tem seu proprio fetish, mas imagina comigo tudo que eles passaram por Zootopia, toda a relação, todo o amor entre eles descrito como canon, e do nada, eles saem fodendo meio mundo, dai judy decide fuder um amigo dela antigo que bateu nela, até ai ok, que comeu a mãe dela, fez o pai dela ficar assistindo e trai a namorada dele em um puteiro publico, e com isso, prova ao nick que ela ganhou uma aposta de quem fode mais, algo que não encaixa no personagem em NADA.

Adam Wan e FaF estão se tornando os piores criadores de comic junto a Palcomix, e isso é um insulto que não digo levemente! Eles estão arranhando a concepção de se importar com alguem justamente para tirar algumas cenas de sexo (no caso do FaF, nem isso)

Comics porno não precisam ter a melhor historia do mundo, mas algo mais humano não mataria por motivo nenhum.

Please: Leave it a mess é o oposto do espectro com facilidade incrivel, eu aceito troca de casais que não tem sentimentos um pelo outro, mas saber que existe uma confiança sendo quebrada me parte o coração, porque só sabe quem já passou por isso.

Não é uma critica leve, menos ainda, a arte de Wan não é desculpa para todo mundo ser um psicopata sem perdão. Quando voce chega ao final dessa comic, não tem Pay off, só uma dor que te broxa na hora.

Eu esperaria o dobro pra ver comics como Better Later than Never ou como as do Maririn, que são as melhores comics no mercado hoje em dia, porque mesmo sendo uma comic porno, tem um sentimento de complemento, de um final que você não se sente mal em ler...

Adam Wan é pior que Shadbase
Ele ainda ganha

The cuck is strong in this comic.

Boi if you dont..

All those downvotes...

They're GLORIOUS!

Downvoting because of a few reasons:
-The story started off okay, but as it came near the end, it just fell apart.
-Gideon's scene and the ending feels really rushed and weak. Don't know if it was "artist's fatigue" or what.
-It's not an Adam Wan comic without some cucking (not a downvote reason, just a friendly jab)
-Sex scenes were good, in fact, they were visually great. But they were rushed. I know having them sex up the entire cast has to be done quickly, but so potential was wasted.
-I'm getting Jason/Kabi vibes from this comic. Well, at least reading about what happened on his Patreon
-Characters started off in-character, characters ended off-character.

dude, if people are paying to be allowed in the poll (patreon, so they are) and you don't follow the poll, you are STEALING THEIR MONEY.
what a scumbag.

AlbineFox said:
All this whining is because the comic is nt WildeHopps. I don't like Gideon and Judy together but for fucks sake, the shippers were complaining ever since the beggining.

They want every damned comic, fan art and fanfic to be the same WildeHopps fiesta, whenever the non shippers get any bone thrown their way, the shippers start acting like spoiled children and complain like wankers.

And also, Adam Wan is very well KNOWN for the cuck fetish, criticizing him for it is like criticizing furry artists for having furries in their porn.

This is most certainly not a case of it not being "WildeHopps". It's about a somewhat rushed ending, with completely out of character depictions. I promise you that if you would remove references to cheating and general douchebaggery, and just treating it as casual, easy going orgy of sex, this would have ended with a +100 score like all the other pages. E.g. if you would have cut Gideon out of the picture all together, there wouldn't really have been much of a problem, despite Judy and Nick not even touching each other.

Douchebags, cheating and cuckolding aren't really very popular "fetishes", combine all three and it will get even less popular. Combining this with an otherwise popular thing and a subpar or rushed attempt at plot, and you got an easy recipe for hate. You can't stop people hating, all you can do is ignore it, if that's the road you chose to go down.

Additionally, what happens if you instead do ships which aren't popular or don't do any shipping at all? It's simple; you get no recognition. People will simply ignore you, a few might comment that they'd rather have x instead of y like always, but you rarely get hate. You only get hate when you combine this with other things, like bad character development, bad story, bad art, etc.

Chessax said:
This is most certainly not a case of it not being "WildeHopps". It's about a somewhat rushed ending, with completely out of character depictions. I promise you that if you would remove references to cheating and general douchebaggery, and just treating it as casual, easy going orgy of sex, this would have ended with a +100 score like all the other pages. E.g. if you would have cut Gideon out of the picture all together, there wouldn't really have been much of a problem, despite Judy and Nick not even touching each other.

Douchebags, cheating and cuckolding aren't really very popular "fetishes", combine all three and it will get even less popular. Combining this with an otherwise popular thing and a subpar or rushed attempt at plot, and you got an easy recipe for hate. You can't stop people hating, all you can do is ignore it, if that's the road you chose to go down.

Additionally, what happens if you instead do ships which aren't popular or don't do any shipping at all? It's simple; you get no recognition. People will simply ignore you, a few might comment that they'd rather have x instead of y like always, but you rarely get hate. You only get hate when you combine this with other things, like bad character development, bad story, bad art, etc.

Well the thing here is it was voted for a WildeHopps comic that won a poll made by Adam Wan himself. So his Patreons feel cheated out of for him not making following through with the most voted decision.

If Adam Wan made this without any poll that included WildeHopps as an option then it wouldn't get hate for this part.

I don't dislike Gideon X Judy, but if there was a poll for WildeHopps, and the people who voted mostly wanted it to be WildeHopps, and these people give Adam Wan money, then they would feel cheated out of it.

But I do agree with the other stuff, you are exactly right there.

What's so disappointing about this comic is that it contains the art and story elements needed to tell a straight-forward tale of Gideon & Judy hooking up.

The story could have simply unfolded as: Nick and Judy are best friends and ZPD partners but Nick is gay so romantic WildeHopps isn't possible. Judy has let it slip that she has the hots for Gideon. So, Nick (who knows everyone) finds out that Gideon and Sharla frequently come to the Mystic Oasis and that they have an open relationship.

Nick arranges a "bet" with Judy to get her to the spa on a day he knows Gideon will be there and the atmosphere will be sexually charged. Nick acts more smug that day to goad Judy into acting outside her comfort zone leading to the "I can get more guys than you" bet.

He monitors the progress to make sure it's tied all day and makes sure Gideon hangs around to be the tie-breaker. Judy and Gideon have a good lay, hit it off and consider the possibility of meeting again. Boom. Simple, straight-forward, satisfying.

I posted a comment on the previous page of this comic (p22) about how the story above could have been achieved by simply removing 1 panel of art and changing 3 lines of dialogue. Why there was the last minute addition of cuckolding, cheating, and mother/daughter fixation is puzzling because it makes Gideon into a jerk and Nick into an idiot for trying to get them together.

rva98014 said:
What's so disappointing about this comic is that it contains the art and story elements needed to tell a straight-forward tale of Gideon & Judy hooking up.

The story could have simply unfolded as: Nick and Judy are best friends and ZPD partners but Nick is gay so romantic WildeHopps isn't possible. Judy has let it slip that she has the hots for Gideon. So, Nick (who knows everyone) finds out that Gideon and Sharla frequently come to the Mystic Oasis and that they have an open relationship.

Nick arranges a "bet" with Judy to get her to the spa on a day he knows Gideon will be there and the atmosphere will be sexually charged. Nick acts more smug that day to goad Judy into acting outside her comfort zone leading to the "I can get more guys than you" bet.

He monitors the progress to make sure it's tied all day and makes sure Gideon hangs around to be the tie-breaker. Judy and Gideon have a good lay, hit it off and consider the possibility of meeting again. Boom. Simple, straight-forward, satisfying.

I posted a comment on the previous page of this comic (p22) about how the story above could have been achieved by simply removing 1 panel of art and changing 3 lines of dialogue. Why there was the last minute addition of cuckolding, cheating, and mother/daughter fixation is puzzling because it makes Gideon into a jerk and Nick into an idiot for trying to get them together.

But that would imply Adam Wan has good storytelling prowess.

Instead he'd rather pertain to his own fetish's and what he'd enjoy rather than what the readers, or better yet the people who actually gives him money, wants.

rva98014 said:
Why there was the last minute addition of cuckolding, cheating, and mother/daughter fixation is puzzling because it makes Gideon into a jerk and Nick into an idiot for trying to get them together.

Its the artists fetish, he is well know for drawing cuck porn. However the issue comes from the rushed last page, making it feel like a big F-U to the patreons who supported him.

Honestly if you are going to do a poll why even put the option that you know full well people support...

AlexanderMugetsu said:
But that would imply Adam Wan has good storytelling prowess.

Instead he'd rather pertain to his own fetish's and what he'd enjoy rather than what the readers, or better yet the people who actually gives him money, wants.

well its quite impossible to write or draw a porn comic if u as the artist are not interested in whats going on, so his fetishes are going to be there no matter what or else the comic or story will feel soul less.

Worst...storyline...ever.

W0LFB3AT5 said:
Worst...storyline...ever.

Worse than The Room?
That's a bold statement.

Pardon

KendrickPilots said:
Might as well write a full review of this.

Two clarifications to your review.
1) The first animals Judy has sex with are Bucky and Pronk, her neighbors from the movie. They are both members of the Antelope family and are not sheep.
2) The terms of the bet was simply that Judy could get more guys than Nick. They were tied as of page 18 when Nick leaves the playing field. Judy then has sex with Gideon giving her one more notch. Thus she wins plain and simple.

alekpo said:
well its quite impossible to write or draw a porn comic if u as the artist are not interested in whats going on, so his fetishes are going to be there no matter what or else the comic or story will feel soul less.

He doesn't have to put cuck porn in it. We both know that.

His only reason to put it in was to please himself, not for the readers.

I haven't seen a comic get this much hate, since that jasonafex comic.

putyourownnamehere said:
I haven't seen a comic get this much hate, since that jasonafex comic.

Alright this is something else I have to know about. What comic and why was it hated so much?

Duke_Logan said:
Alright this is something else I have to know about. What comic and why was it hated so much?

This community reacts quite disappointed to bad stories in crowdfunded comics. Jasonafex and Kabier made a comic called "Servants of the Serpent" (It is apparently deleted though, maybe due to hate or whatever). That story was full of nonsensical plot devices and poor excuses to have sex, imo still fapable though :3

akauvi said:
Comon fellas.. Don't click the downvote. This was a great comic. Really

That's what the votes are for.

If people like it, they upvote it. If they don't they downvote it.

It's a way to get a genuine consensus on a submission to see what the overall public thinks about it.

AlexanderMugetsu said:
[regarding (supposedly) ignored WildeHopps poll]

Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with that, I just don't like people who automatically jump on the "you are shipping the wrong couple!" bandwagon, it's the obvious bait, but rarely the real issue.

KendrickPilots said:
... it seems like everyone either hates this or loves it ...

The hate mostly comes in the last couple of page, the "hate" in the beginning is very mild, in both instances the reasons why is quite well understood.

KendrickPilots said:
In a fanfiction, the characters don't need to be exactly like they were in their original piece of media. They only need to be both likable, and consistent. ...

Then what's the point of fanfiction? It's just shameless fanservice. But, I guess I'm one of few who actually has a problem with this so I'll shut up now...

akauvi said:
Comon fellas.. Don't click the downvote. This was a great comic. Really

I'm glad you liked but not everyone else has to, also, telling people simply not to hate is not going to generate less hate. On the contrary it can easily have the opposite effect unless your counter argument is very well constructed and shows you understand why the hate exists in the first place.

Peachy~ said:
everyone please stop being upset over the cartoon animal pron.

there are much more dire situations occurring, for example i have so much corn in my home i am not sure what to do with it all.

please help.

Hah, I was really close to reply with something snarky, but I dunno, if it's dried and kept dried I don't really see the problem, it usually stays good for a long time, otherwise I suggest sharing :)

testsubject1234 said:
This community reacts quite disappointed to bad stories in crowdfunded comics. Jasonafex and Kabier made a comic called "Servants of the Serpent" (It is apparently deleted though, maybe due to hate or whatever). That story was full of nonsensical plot devices and poor excuses to have sex, imo still fapable though :3

Being the 5th most downvotes page is no excuse. It was a clear consensus that they had no excuse to suck.

Chessax said:
This is most certainly not a case of it not being "WildeHopps". It's about a somewhat rushed ending, with completely out of character depictions. I promise you that if you would remove references to cheating and general douchebaggery, and just treating it as casual, easy going orgy of sex, this would have ended with a +100 score like all the other pages. E.g. if you would have cut Gideon out of the picture all together, there wouldn't really have been much of a problem, despite Judy and Nick not even touching each other.

Douchebags, cheating and cuckolding aren't really very popular "fetishes", combine all three and it will get even less popular. Combining this with an otherwise popular thing and a subpar or rushed attempt at plot, and you got an easy recipe for hate. You can't stop people hating, all you can do is ignore it, if that's the road you chose to go down.

Additionally, what happens if you instead do ships which aren't popular or don't do any shipping at all? It's simple; you get no recognition. People will simply ignore you, a few might comment that they'd rather have x instead of y like always, but you rarely get hate. You only get hate when you combine this with other things, like bad character development, bad story, bad art, etc.

Then where is all this hate for cuckoldry and douchebagery for the comic and fanfic of the same name "This is what true love looks like". It's a fanfic/comic entirelly focused on CUCKING Nick and it ends with Nick helping raise Judy's kids with another male and she doesn't even says she likes or loves him.

AlbineFox said:
Then where is all this hate for cuckoldry and douchebagery for the comic and fanfic of the same name "This is what true love looks like". It's a fanfic/comic entirelly focused on CUCKING Nick and it ends with Nick helping raise Judy's kids with another male and she doesn't even says she likes or loves him.

Ugh, I'm getting way too talkative again...

Man... this comic was rushed at the end just like Daddy's Little Secret. And dem down-votes. A lot of dislike and I don't blame them.

MurTheHuman said: is nice to know that there are still some redeemable people out there who don't care for it

if you really care that much how people get off, why dont you just go blow them?

imagine caring this much about what makes other people nut.

what makes furries look creepy are the pedos and dogfuckers in this community and all the weird borderline violent political shit going on, not some people being hot and bothered fantazising about jerking it in a corner not getting the gf's poon.

we got actual pedos trying to creep on some kid at a furry con, but adam wan makes a comic you all dont like and you go up in arms. oh well, have fun spending all your energy whining in this comments section even though you chose read it knowing full well what a retard adam wan is.

Am I the only one who just read it for the porn? I really never cared about the ending either way...

Also, does cucking only count when its a guy and a girl? Because Nick was getting action in nearly every page, so what's even cucky about it?

Flame-LoneWolf said:
Also, does cucking only count when its a guy and a girl? Because Nick was getting action in nearly every page, so what's even cucky about it?

they just care too much about that nickxjudy ship and what others find hot.

instead of taking their energy elsewhere they just wanna whine about how people like things they dont.

couldnt give two shits of someone likes poop, because im not getting involved, and im blacklistign it and im never gonna annoy myself by finding scat art and commenting on how disgusting it is every damn time i find some.

fuckers on this website always go on about the blacklist, but not if they can shit out yet another comment about how cucking is "evil" and circlejerk with 500 other people with nothing better to do, that all agree with eachother.

ill say this again, if you care so much about what gets another mans dick hard, why dont you take that extra energy to fucking suck it too?

chiz said:
they just care too much about that nickxjudy ship and what others find hot.

instead of taking their energy elsewhere they just wanna whine about how people like things they dont.

couldnt give two shits of someone likes poop, because im not getting involved, and im blacklistign it and im never gonna annoy myself by finding scat art and commenting on how disgusting it is every damn time i find some.

fuckers on this website always go on about the blacklist, but not if they can shit out yet another comment about how cucking is "evil" and circlejerk with 500 other people with nothing better to do, that all agree with eachother.

ill say this again, if you care so much about what gets another mans dick hard, why dont you take that extra energy to fucking suck it too?

I've very much noticed how the Zootopia fanbase/furries will lose their fucking minds if Judy isn’t shipped with Nick, and vice versa. Classic shippers right there.

I've never cared about the ship either way, but it honestly makes me hope there's no romance between them in Zootopia 2. But of course there will be, because we're in the age of writers pandering to popular ships.

But yeah, I'm not really into the whole cucking thing either, but if someone likes it, why should I care? I didn't pay a dime for this comic, so why the fuck should I feel entitled enough to complain about it, lol

Aaaaand I can already taste the downvotes.

Flame-LoneWolf said:
I've very much noticed how the Zootopia fanbase/furries will lose their fucking minds if Judy isn’t shipped with Nick, and vice versa. Classic shippers right there.

I've never cared about the ship either way, but it honestly makes me hope there's no romance between them in Zootopia 2. But of course there will be, because we're in the age of writers pandering to popular ships.

But yeah, I'm not really into the whole cucking thing either, but if someone likes it, why should I care? I didn't pay a dime for this comic, so why the fuck should I feel entitled enough to complain about it, lol

Aaaaand I can already taste the downvotes.

Too be honest I don't really have much against Gideon X Judy. At all really, as I can see why people can like this, even over Nick.

It's not even a major reason why I hate this comic. Though, with that said, here it's just done awfully. Over people have explain why, rva98014 especially.

Also, anyone here can express their mind, doesn't matter if they never payed for it, that does not mean it's free from criticism from those who haven't paid for it.

Flame-LoneWolf said:
Also, does cucking only count when its a guy and a girl? Because Nick was getting action in nearly every page, so what's even cucky about it?

Not everything is about Wilde, Hopps or the popular WildeHopps, the explosion on negativity mostly stems from the combination of the following events:

• Cucking: Stu on page 21.
• Adultery: Gideon and Sharla on page 19.
• Creepiness: Gideon on page 21 - 22.
• Douchebaggery: Nick on this page.

chiz said:
[some valid points mostly lost in pointless drivel]

Again people are simplifying the reasons for hate, the non-WildeHopps storyline is a very minor complaint, or we would see much more hate earlier on in the story.

Also no need to be a complete ass about people's opinions, additionally you're somewhat hypocritical seeing as you seem to complain as much as some other people complain. People don't tend to take people who whine and insult seriously, so any valid points you have are mostly lost.

What is this ending? I'm lost, can someone help?

AlexanderMugetsu said:
Also, anyone here can express their mind, doesn't matter if they never payed for it, that does not mean it's free from criticism from those who haven't paid for it.

Never said they couldn't, but there's a difference between criticism and acting like a crybaby over a free comic on the internet not being the way others want. I'm not really defending Adam, I like his art, but that's about it. But if that's how the creator wanted to end it, then nothing is going to change that.

Chessax said:
Not everything is about Wilde, Hopps or the popular WildeHopps, the explosion on negativity mostly stems from the combination of the following events:

• Cucking: Stu on page 21.
• Adultery: Gideon and Sharla on page 19.
• Creepiness: Gideon on page 21 - 22.
• Douchebaggery: Nick on this page.

Again... So? A few fetishes people don't like? If you don't like it, pay another artist or make it yourself.

And exactly what is this site's major malfunction when it comes to cucking? Not really my thing, and I can get the anger when it's done out of malicious intent, but it clearly wasn't in that page. Who is it harming exactly, other than your egos?

Adultery is far from the worst thing on this site, especially considering it's porn, lol. "Creepiness" is subjective really, and I legitimately don't see how anything Nick did on the last page was him being a douchebag. And this says a lot, considering Nick is a douchebag, even in the movie.

Flame-LoneWolf said:
Never said they couldn't, but there's a difference between criticism and acting like a crybaby over a free comic on the internet not being the way others want. I'm not really defending Adam, I like his art, but that's about it. But if that's how the creator wanted to end it, then nothing is going to change that.

Again... So? A few fetishes people don't like? If you don't like it, pay another artist or make it yourself.

And exactly what is this site's major malfunction when it comes to cucking? Not really my thing, and I can get the anger when it's done out of malicious intent, but it clearly wasn't in that page. Who is it harming exactly, other than your egos?

Adultery is far from the worst thing on this site, especially considering it's porn, lol. "Creepiness" is subjective really, and I legitimately don't see how anything Nick did on the last page was him being a douchebag. And this says a lot, considering Nick is a douchebag, even in the movie.

We hate the fact that not only is it here, but it does so using characters we have come to love. It's insulting to the personalities of the characters.

We can hate what we want, call it useless crying if you want but we will still share our hate.

Flame-LoneWolf said:
I've very much noticed how the Zootopia fanbase/furries will lose their fucking minds if Judy isn’t shipped with Nick, and vice versa. Classic shippers right there.

I've never cared about the ship either way, but it honestly makes me hope there's no romance between them in Zootopia 2. But of course there will be, because we're in the age of writers pandering to popular ships.

But yeah, I'm not really into the whole cucking thing either, but if someone likes it, why should I care? I didn't pay a dime for this comic, so why the fuck should I feel entitled enough to complain about it, lol

Aaaaand I can already taste the downvotes.

oh yeah, all the downvotes and me "trolling" aka telling it like it is, got me a "neutral" standing or whatever. lol salty much haha

This kinda made sense until the end

Chessax said:
Not everything is about Wilde, Hopps or the popular WildeHopps, the explosion on negativity mostly stems from the combination of the following events:

• Cucking: Stu on page 21.
• Adultery: Gideon and Sharla on page 19.
• Creepiness: Gideon on page 21 - 22.
• Douchebaggery: Nick on this page.

Again people are simplifying the reasons for hate, the non-WildeHopps storyline is a very minor complaint, or we would see much more hate earlier on in the story.

Also no need to be a complete ass about people's opinions, additionally you're somewhat hypocritical seeing as you seem to complain as much as some other people complain. People don't tend to take people who whine and insult seriously, so any valid points you have are mostly lost.

i dont wait for every page of a comic to be finished over a long period of time downvoting every page of it and complaining about how i hate it every time i see it instead of blacklisting.

if you want to compare me going "oh thats the last page lets look- oh nooo the comments are all retarded and ill have to tell them" to that and call me hypocritical, then fine i guess? i dont see the hypocracy. try to find any other comments of me saying this stuff i said in this comment section anywhere else and you might have a point. until then *shrug* the insults happened because i think they ARE acting like they have their diaper full. and knowing this community some of them probably actually have their diaper full.. thats a hairy baby etc etc.

AlexanderMugetsu said:
We hate the fact that not only is it here, but it does so using characters we have come to love. It's insulting to the personalities of the characters.

We can hate what we want, call it useless crying if you want but we will still share our hate.

atleast youre being honest about how pathetically attached you all are to pixels.

What an amusing comments section.

RabbitVibrator said:
What an amusing comments section.

whats amusing is your name and picture. well done!

AlexanderMugetsu said:
We hate the fact that not only is it here, but it does so using characters we have come to love. It's insulting to the personalities of the characters.

We can hate what we want, call it useless crying if you want but we will still share our hate.

They're drawings.

People will draw characters doing things you won't like.

Get over it.

Flame-LoneWolf said:
They're drawings.

People will draw characters doing things you won't like.

Get over it.

If you're trying to satisfy a crowd of eager people that enjoy your art, not following what they want is a good way to end up on someone's shit list. EG: Jasonafex

Steel_Warrior said:
If you're trying to satisfy a crowd of eager people that enjoy your art, not following what they want is a good way to end up on someone's shit list. EG: Jasonafex

So, artists should bend over and be their audience's bitch. Got it. 👌

And here I thought Adam was supposed to be the cuck...

Flame-LoneWolf said:
So, artists should bend over and be their audience's bitch. Got it. 

And here I thought Adam was supposed to be the cuck...

Well, try that at your job and get fired
See? People is PAYING him to do that
And he can't even
You are bitchin and complaining about a bunch, but you don'r even know how to critique, friendo
And like brazilians say: Você é babaca pra caralho mano

And, as expected, Adam Wan(ker) once again delivers

Flame-LoneWolf said:
[...]

chiz said:
[...]

Maybe was too hard on you to call you a hypocrite for what you're doing, but you're probably still being too aggressive, as mentioned people won't take your arguments seriously if you go about it that way. Seeing as you seem to be serious about trying to get your point across it might be worth thinking about.

Also one can be a hypocrite at one occasion and not the next, it's not a character trait, it's mostly about failure to be self-aware.

What a story, Mark.

rhyolite said:
How is he even walking?

Because fuck logic, that's how xD

The comment section on this post though.

FantasiIFrittFall said:
The comment section on this post though.

Even furries have a limit.

Flame-LoneWolf said:
So, artists should bend over and be their audience's bitch. Got it. 

And here I thought Adam was supposed to be the cuck...

I'm talking about what happened with the poll. As an artist, you shouldn't be expected to be forced to do something that's suggested, but he brought that upon himself.

It's like asking a question, getting told an answer that you don't like, and then saying, "Well, I don't believe you." To which the response would be, "Why'd you ask the question?"

In this case, a lot of eager fans got pimp-smacked by Adam, leaving the question of, "Well, why'd you even have a poll?" in their minds.

Disclaimer: I really love his artwork, same as Jasonafex', but questionable decisions are still questionable.

So... are people offended by this? Why?

Fauxgirl said:
So... are people offended by this? Why?

Salty patreon, rushed, out of characters, Creepness, Cuckhold, Cheating (in so many levels) and for the wort: Conflict of Fetishs

People who pass trough some of this sintoms and is Angry AF comment here, my dear Faux

The comments sections like this amuse me because people take time to complain about stuff on a FREE site when they could go make better use of their time. Dude, if you don’t like how a comic went go commission one yourself so you can have it your way instead of “DOWN VOTED!”, “WORST COMIC EVER!”, “ARTIST IS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF.” You want some cheese with that wine?

Kitsune4Life said:
The comments sections like this amuse me because people take time to complain about stuff on a FREE site when they could go make better use of their time. Dude, if you don’t like how a comic went go commission one yourself so you can have it your way instead of “DOWN VOTED!”, “WORST COMIC EVER!”, “ARTIST IS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF.” You want some cheese with that wine?

Oh, so if something is free, that makes it automatically immune to criticism?

Good god you sound like that other guy who tried to say, "but it's porn!!1!"

Kitsune4Life said:
The comments sections like this amuse me because people take time to complain about stuff on a FREE site when they could go make better use of their time. Dude, if you don’t like how a comic went go commission one yourself so you can have it your way instead of “DOWN VOTED!”, “WORST COMIC EVER!”, “ARTIST IS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF.” You want some cheese with that wine?

Nothing's immune from criticism. Even criticisms are criticised. My critique on your criticism is that it is lackluster and requires a better criticism when it comes to critiquing.

ehy said:
HOLY SHIT, WHAT A FUCKPILE OF HATE!

And in good reason too. I always knew Adam was one for cuck comics but this is fucking rediculous.

wot

Qwazzy said:
I don't know firsthand so take this with a grain of salt, but from what I heard he offered a poll on his Patreon to decide the pairing / pairings that would be featured in this comic. Naturally Judy x Nick won, but he didn't want to do that so he chose not to and just ignore the poll results. It's also possible some of the moves made in the comic are deliberately trying to anger those who complained about him avoiding the poll results, too. (Obviously that's a lot harder to prove, though.)

He made a twitter post that seems to reference this. Salt in the wound for some at this point.

Steel_Warrior said:
I'm talking about what happened with the poll.

Can anyone prove what happened at the pool? No one has sent any screenshot of the pool, nor anything that can prove he promised WildeHopps in it.

So far all we know about this pool is by word of mouth, no one can back it up.

Edit: I really wanted to see the whole pool screenshot, that's why I'm asking.

AlbineFox said:
Can anyone prove what happened at the [poll]? No one has sent any screenshot of the [poll], nor anything that can prove he promised WildeHopps in it.

So far all we know about this [poll] is by word of mouth, no one can back it up.

Edit: I really wanted to see the whole [poll] screenshot, that's why I'm asking.

It's second-hand again, but I found a post elsewhere that claims the poll[/i] was for comic theme, and read "Something something nudist club. I imagine this would be the scene you didn't see in the movie where Nick really tries to make Judy uncomfortable, and she's upping the ante to prove wrong his assumptions of her limits"Which kinda turns on its head when the twist is he was never trying to push her limits in the first place, just trying to hook her up with someone he never met in the movie out of some feeling of social obligation.

AlbineFox said:
Can anyone prove what happened at the pool?

So far all we know about this pool is by word of mouth, no one can back it up.

Edit: I really wanted to see the whole pool screenshot.

post #954195

Aha, my Xanatos gambit to get Judy to hook up with Gideon by tricking her into having insane amounts of unprotected sex with complete strangers TOTALLY worked and having all that unprotected sex with all those complete strangers in some sort of competition was a complete ruse!

Or at least that's what I got out of it.

Adam Wan, ruining comics with one panel for over 5 years!

29 comments under threshold, Jesus Christ the manchild, is there any other post with this many comments under the threshold?

aimbotexe said:
29 comments under threshold, Jesus Christ the manchild, is there any other post with this many comments under the threshold?

Is that a legit question? Because chances are, you'll find worse in lol_comments. Or try and find Kabier's posts, the hate off of the comics leaked into their one-off images.

The answer is yes, there are other posts with this many comments under the threshold, if not more.

I hope this score means people are gonna stop putting Zaush on a pedestal

ohmanwhatsthis said:
I hope this score means people are gonna stop putting Zaush on a pedestal

It's like you haven't seen literally every single score on the other comic pages.
The comic is relatively amazing. The ending just has everyone in a stiffy.

Rencez said:
Wow someone pulled a jasonafex

Aha, ahaha that was a fun one

This comment section has proved to me beyond a doubt that there's such a thing as caring too much.

ETA: Also I'm super disappointed at all the upvotes for comments that kinkshame people. We're better than that. Come on.

To those complaining about cuck fetishes...
Blacklist exists. I don't like the fetish either, I'm not a fan, but I'm not gonna bitch about the art that divulges in it because meh it floats the artist's (or commissioner's) boat so whatever they can have their cake and fuck it too.

HOWEVER I Will HAPPILY bitch about the strange deformed puppy that is this story! Jesus Furry Christ this is about as bad as Season 20 of South Park.

Both of which started so good too!

OK, I may have been wrong about cucking in the past (don't ask), but I'm just trying to figure something.
If this was Wilde-Hopps, and Nick doesn't get to fuck Judy, then that's cucking?
But if this isn't Wilde-Hopps (I'm assuming this is really just a work partner competition) then it's just random fucking for the sake of it?
Will agree this has NO regard to the fandoms' acceptance of the original films characters' personalities, _{but have to agree it is well drawn.
Crap, now I sound like I'm sticking up for him,,,, but I downvoted each page, honest!}

Dont know what peoples going on about
Gideon and Judy are great for each other!

Also the chance for NickXFinnick
So they're good for each other!

HelloYesThisIsDog said:
the strange deformed puppy that is this story! Jesus Furry Christ this is about as bad as Season 20 of South Park.

Where is this puppy?!

AlbineFox said:
Where is this puppy?!

probably in Mr. Wan's Asian dungeon for naughty little maids.

Reptard said:
The part where you like that e621 is nice for its difference of opinion from other places is fine. The part where you label people with a different fetish from you as “irredeemable” is pretty shitty.

I realize this is over a month old but it's probably worth pointing out that a fetish that relies on hurting someone else in any way isn't something I, and a lot of other reasonable people are going to think positively about, much to your dismay.

If you honestly think doing that to someone is okay and doesn't make you "irredeemable" then I believe that says a lot about you as a person.

Wow. I didn't think it was that bad. Sure, the ending was kinda BS, but I don't think it deserved this kind of hate.

104 dislikes.... ouch.

Wither&wane said:
Wow. I didn't think it was that bad. Sure, the ending was kinda BS, but I don't think it deserved this kind of hate.

The plot does such a sudden u-turn at the end that it leaves you with whiplash.

Okay, this ending may not have been the best, but this page has more downvotes than Trump banging Fluttershy and flipping the bird, a dog on a rotisserie, a cheetah biting off someones dick, and I hate to say this, fidget spinner cock vore.

Should this really be worse than fidget spinner cock vore?

Afasicks said:
Okay, this ending may not have been the best, but this page has more downvotes than Trump banging Fluttershy and flipping the bird, a dog on a rotisserie, a cheetah biting off someones dick, and I hate to say this, fidget spinner cock vore.

Should this really be worse than fidget spinner cock vore?

Fidget spinner cock vore seems like the kind of thing that can be avoided with a proper blacklist, and downvoting would require bothering to open the post after being able to see the thumbnail.

Artists like Zaush and Kabier/Jason are well-known enough to be specifically searched for, and even if you could blacklist bad story twists a lot of people are already invested in a comic before those are apparent.

Afasicks said:
Okay, this ending may not have been the best, but this page has more downvotes than Trump banging Fluttershy and flipping the bird, a dog on a rotisserie, a cheetah biting off someones dick, and I hate to say this, fidget spinner cock vore.

Should this really be worse than fidget spinner cock vore?

You have seen the anal cheesecrater thing, right? Nothing really has more downvotes then that, i think.

WHATS THAT?! Zaush sucks at writing story AND characterization?! Who would’ve known!

Like I love how this one page ruins the whole comic. Wow, fuck Jasonafex we got an even bigger fcukup here

honestly I don't mind the idea of shipping Judy x Gideon, but the way this comic handles it it's such an blatant "fuck you" to WildeHopps shippers

fizzymcbon said:
It's just a creepy, evil fetish in general. Like, who wants to see their significant other railed by another dude?

People who aren't insecure and enjoy it? I'm not sure why it's creepy to like watching someone you love get fucked. I think part of the problem is assuming it's a closed relationship, and just being too possessive. If both parties agree to it, and they both enjoy it, how is it evil?

fizzymcbon said:
It's some fucked up shit, and if someone gets off to being the bull in that relationship, they just come off as psychos who lack any sort of human empathy.

They lack empathy because they were asked to have sex with someone's partner and they agreed to provide both of them with a good time? What?

fizzymcbon said:
I'm not going to sit here and pretend like that the rest of the fandom isn't fucked up. But at least in your typical smut you can appreciate the characters, their feelings, and emotions.

Sounds more like a complaint about the writing than it does the fetish. Hell, there's plenty of "typical smut" stories that have awful writing that make it impossible to appreciate the characters, their feelings, and their emotions, and no doubt the art might not be there to carry the weight, so to speak.

How exactly is calling cuckolding as a fetish creepy and evil in any way a valid criticism of the way it was shoehorned into a random panel on a single page, or the strange ending to a story that just didn't seem to know when to end?

Liked the visuals, liked some of the ideas. Good jerk off material.

I just wanted to fit in with the crowd so I downvoted it and saved the pool cuz it's an amazing comic.

People do realize that this is just porn right? Like...don't take it too seriously and just get your jollies off kinda of porn

And then everyone got aids and died, the end.

If you make strong attempts to ignore any sort of story, it ain't that bad.

That's a strong IF tho.

I don't really have a problem with the kink in itself because if that's all it is... that's all it is. This is art in which a fetish is included, which doesn't necessarily suggest anything about a person's actual preference towards that thing irl, just like how rape fantasies don't mean that that person actually wants to be raped or to rape people, so it's just kinda fruitless to demonize it.

I can sympathize with kink-whiplash though, where something comes out of left field and seemingly solely for the merits of itself. I, tbh, lost interest, at Gideon, so I missed he drama, but whatevs. I know I've strongly posted about this in the context of "Servants of the Serpents", but that was also kinda more along the lines of criticizing it being advertised as a BDSM adventure, but ended up with more depictions of rape than anything else. I don't mind hard kinks, but only if they can be in there on a basis that is a more... eh, tasteful and not-shoehorned-in.

I can also sympathize with disliking supremely "bleh" characters who don't portray well, especially if they were going off the basis of an already-existing character.

D4rk said:
post #1391586

post #1499888

This comic seemed like a bit of a stretch in entirely too many ways. Makes me think back to how far he's come from producing nice pleasant comics you could enjoy... https://e621.net/post/show/19233/adam_wan-american_football-anthro-athletic-ball-br

Oh.

massively triggered furries in this panel lol

MurTheHuman said:
I realize this is over a month old but it's probably worth pointing out that a fetish that relies on hurting someone else in any way isn't something I, and a lot of other reasonable people are going to think positively about, much to your dismay.

If you honestly think doing that to someone is okay and doesn't make you "irredeemable" then I believe that says a lot about you as a person.

I don't think you understand what cuck is.

wtf are all these comments?

Sequel when?

I don't understand (nor do I want to) all the whining and the score. It's porn. I came. I laughed. I upvoted. Awesome work as always, Adam Wan. Will be a sad day when we lose you.

Trash comic

Here's a question for everyone who's viewing this here. Can you politely shut the fuck up? What the hell is peoples problem?

Why do you feel the characters have to be true to the movie personality? Its POOOOOORN. EVERY PART OF THIS STORY MADE SENSE TO ME!

what is hard to understand about this concept? Are you all that braindead or do you just enjoy bitching about content you're getting for free on this site?

I come here to enjoy the comic, and everytime the comments ruin it. Nobody can be happy with anything.

Stfu, rub one out and go.

I just love the sheer drop in reception from the previous post to this one.

Holy shit I remember seeing this a while back, but I never noticed the score and the amount of comments.

I think that you all are forgetting that Judy's decision was entirely her's. She could have said no and left, but she didn't. She wasn't raped or forced anyway. She was only loosely manipulated to have sex with a guy after what, dozens of other guys? Anyway, if you are looking for moral stories filled with consensual sex and monogamy or some shit, why the fuck did you come here?

Did this post get downvote botted? Almost every other page has
well over 100 upvotes.

I feel bad for all the people who wasted there money, only for Adam to take the cash, and make a cuck ending. This is why I don't donate to comics. They will either make a great ending that everyone can be happy with, of they can be a Jay Naylor, or Adam Wan. This whole comic was great, I turned bisexual when I was Nick get his ass wrecked, but this ending made me love women more now. So like it was a fun few days I guess.

Danoobsniper said:
I feel bad for all the people who wasted there money, only for Adam to take the cash, and make a cuck ending. This is why I don't donate to comics. They will either make a great ending that everyone can be happy with, of they can be a Jay Naylor, or Adam Wan. This whole comic was great, I turned bisexual when I was Nick get his ass wrecked, but this ending made me love women more now. So like it was a fun few days I guess.

what

😲SO MANY DOWNVOTES😲

When u too good a Bro to not let your browser Bro all up in your girls Bro.

rhyolite said:
How is he even walking?

Darling, he is a fox.

STOP

Taking porn so seriously

Jesus Christ, what’s with all the downvotes? I don’t see a problem here.

All of you people writing full reviews of the story on a furry porn fan fic are really really misunderstanding the point of this comic.
Like. . .are you not beating off? Have I been doing this wrong? Is this site not just wank material?

Painfulindy2000 said:
if you are looking for moral stories filled with consensual sex and monogamy or some shit, why the fuck did you come here?

Honestly its baffling i scroll down these comments and feel like im losing my mind. How did puritians end up critiquing a zootopia porn comic.

Here’s hoping for a better sequel.
One where Nick and Judy have some alone time.

Curb your story telling

https://youtu.be/Ag1o3koTLWM

Wow, so many down votes, I wonder why?

ThunderKitten said:
Wow, so many down votes, I wonder why?

Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was a glitch or something, since all the other pages have 100+ upvotes. Did people just hate the ending that much???

That clever bastard

WilliamLotti said:
Everyone complaining about this one page and how the story does not make sense. Who cares about the story it's porn!

That's the point. What was the point of having the qualities of storytelling if you were just gonna end it suddenly like that? The interactions, plot, foreshadowing etc what was the point of having those if it was just gonna be porn? Porn doesn't need most to any of that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OLpeX4RRo28

Logged in just to downvote

This hate right here. Is why this fandom is seen as a bunch of idiots... I mean look at this.. GREAT comic I've seen "cubs" get raped on here and you guys are worried about how the characters are represented? ITS YIFF.. wth. Selective outrage at its finest right here xD good comic. If you think otherwise make one your damn self and see how it feels to have it turn down by some disrespectful morons

I read this entire comic, and tbh, im confused with all the fuckin downvotes on this page! What happened that was all that bad? Lets be real, if you didnt like the ending or whatever then YOU draw and make your own ending. Give credit to this GOD of an artist you ungreatful dicks. Now dow vote me. Lol

ShadowWolf69 said:
This hate right here. Is why this fandom is seen as a bunch of idiots... I mean look at this.. GREAT comic I've seen "cubs" get raped on here and you guys are worried about how the characters are represented? ITS YIFF.. wth. Selective outrage at its finest right here xD good comic. If you think otherwise make one your damn self and see how it feels to have it turn down by some disrespectful morons

I couldn't agree more with you

Holy shit, the amount of comments on this post lmfao

Holy fuck. When I posted the first comment on the first page of this comic three years ago, I did not expect this shit to go down. Wew

Wtf why is it over?

So... This is a GABW?

(Good Artist Bad Writter)

So many comments!

rva98014 said:
a fox-shaped cock-sleeve.

You made me log in only to upvote your comment for that part. Congratulations

Bad ending

fuk u

What happened in the past few years to get this downvoted so hard? Did I just read it exactly when it came out? Wtf is with the mass of comments? It's porn, just enjoy it and don't think so hard, you'll bust a blood vessel before a nut that way-

YALL REALLY GETTING MAD OVER PORN LOGIC.YALL REAADING THIS FOR THE PLOT?

damn why did this get so nuked? i don't see anything wrong with it, its just a (relatively) wholesome ending

Least controversial Zaush comment section.

It’s called a 'hustle', sweetheart. Boom.

Love this comic why so many down votes on legit this single page i see nothing wrong with this comic its porn ffs

Why so many downs?

The amount of comments and downvotes compared to the rest of the comic lmao

Taking this page out of context -- I haven't seen anything else from this comic -- you'd think it's a wholesome romp. Just Nick helping Judy patch things up with a childhood bully 😁

Lol I swear these lifeless whiny entitled losers throwing a tantrum over a porn mag not being just how they want it are why I don't associate with the fandom or maintain any accounts anymore lol this fandom is so overfilled with useless spoiled first world problem obsessing assholes its embarrassing.

English is not my first language. Why is this post getting down voted?