This... really looks like sexual harassment really. He looks uneasy or too nervous and she really don’t need to tell him to have a different name...I do not like how Sidra is. Poor Tucker, I would be extremely uneasy in his situation ):

Limedragon27 said:
I don't know, his facial expressions and the fact his dick is half hard looks pretty consensual to me.

His body is reacting but his facial expression says something else to me.

Depends. Can be shy, can be discomfort. Aside from that do we have a lot worse things on e621. This is pretty much as mild as it can go in terms of potential "non consent".

Limedragon27 said:
I don't know, his facial expressions and the fact his dick is half hard looks pretty consensual to me.

Getting erect does not equal consent for the exact same reason that a woman getting wet does not mean she consented.

Jackpot

Oh boy, I feel this comment section will become a war zone...

Nah, it doesn't have to. Constructive talks like those are in my opinion more interesting than the more regular "Good picture!" or "that's hot" comments. Not saying of course that those are unwelcome. But it's a change of pace.

But I believe the best way to put this is to wait for what the artists say. Since they made the picture and story. They know best what is going on and what the feelings are.

i wonder if this is going to end up as a sort of "this bitch is crazy but this is amazing" kind of a situation

Y'all are getting rather worked up over a porn comic starring a character best described as "blowjob fox."

Considering how Tucker doesn't even try to attempt to say no is a decent indication that he's ok with it, never mind the fact that they're trying to advance the plot a bit more coyly instead of just outright saying "fire hoers and succ canid will now do a sex"

Aqua717 said:
This... really looks like sexual harassment really.

It just seems like he's nervous/inexperienced, random sex is probably not a normal situation outside the guild.
Plus the fact that he realizes what she wants to do, is following along with her, and is getting aroused in anticipation, It all points to him also wanting to continue.

AReallyBadDragon said:
Getting erect does not equal consent for the exact same reason that a woman getting wet does not mean she consented.

Exactly

Let's just all agree that as this page stands, it's probably deserving of some yikes, but knowing that this is porn, he's more than likely fine with it (at least by the time the boning begins).

I sure miss when porn got comments like "Damn, those are some good looking balls." or "I hope she goes to town on his ponut."

Instead we get "Hm, this fictional character might be getting sexually harassed by this other fictional character. Allow me to pontificate to you all about how rape is bad as if it's not one of the most universally held opinions."

That said, I hope she goes to town on his ponut. She was sure staring at it long enough.

Prediction time: after this "incident" it will be brought to the attention of someone in the guild and she will get the boot

Verizon unlock screen

TheDrizzle404 said:
I sure miss when porn got comments like "Damn, those are some good looking balls." or "I hope she goes to town on his ponut."

Instead we get "Hm, this fictional character might be getting sexually harassed by this other fictional character. Allow me to pontificate to you all about how rape is bad as if it's not one of the most universally held opinions."

That said, I hope she goes to town on his ponut. She was sure staring at it long enough.

Ponut sucking is hot, so I totally agree.

TheDrizzle404 said:
I sure miss when porn got comments like "Damn, those are some good looking balls." or "I hope she goes to town on his ponut."

Instead we get "Hm, this fictional character might be getting sexually harassed by this other fictional character. Allow me to pontificate to you all about how rape is bad as if it's not one of the most universally held opinions."

That said, I hope she goes to town on his ponut. She was sure staring at it long enough.

You'd be surprised how many people think that men can't be raped. Sometimes you *need* to clarify that getting hard does not equal consent because a lot of people seem to think that it does. That men always want sex and thus can't be raped. I've met people who think this.

Sidra's constant internal monologue

Aqua717 said:
This... really looks like sexual harassment really. He looks uneasy or too nervous and she really don’t need to tell him to have a different name...I do not like how Sidra is. Poor Tucker, I would be extremely uneasy in his situation ):

If he wasn't feeling it or comfortable with whats going on. He'd probably would not have lifted his leg.

TheDrizzle404 said:
I sure miss when porn got comments like "Damn, those are some good looking balls." or "I hope she goes to town on his ponut."

Instead we get "Hm, this fictional character might be getting sexually harassed by this other fictional character. Allow me to pontificate to you all about how rape is bad as if it's not one of the most universally held opinions."

That said, I hope she goes to town on his ponut. She was sure staring at it long enough.

Why does the word "Ponut" make me cringe so hard?

TheDrizzle404 said:
I sure miss when porn got comments like "Damn, those are some good looking balls." or "I hope she goes to town on his ponut."

Instead we get "Hm, this fictional character might be getting sexually harassed by this other fictional character. Allow me to pontificate to you all about how rape is bad as if it's not one of the most universally held opinions."

That said, I hope she goes to town on his ponut. She was sure staring at it long enough.

You right. But to stray away from all that controversial stuff, people gotta admit that he does have a nice pair of balls and it would be hot to see her eat that ponut.

But seriously, I'm not seeing any signs of rape. If he didn't want this, like someone else said.

discordschangeling said:
He'd probably would not have lifted his leg...

If he starts to say "that's enough" or something else along those lines and Sidra doesn't stop, then think it's a problem. Don't hurt good fire horse boi.

i'm liking this sexually aggressive Vulpix

...why does part of me want to watch the guild suffer the consequences for avoiding responsibilities?

I mean, I like the sex, but what part of “increasing debt for months” do these kinds of members not get?

I think somethings wrong with me siding with the boycotters...

Re-Horakhty said:
You'd be surprised how many people think that men can't be raped. Sometimes you *need* to clarify that getting hard does not equal consent because a lot of people seem to think that it does. That men always want sex and thus can't be raped. I've met people who think this.

Okay cool but I don't think the comment section of furry porn is the right place to have a serious discussion about that...

The comic is allowed to be a rape fantasy, and we're allowed to like it, that's not a problem, the disturbing part is how many people in here don't seem to know that this is already rape. If you're using pressure and coercion to get sex from an non-enthused party, that's what it is, whether he lifts his leg up or not.

I'm just here for the story, sidra will probably get the boot from. I want to say from Bolero because Ryn or Misu wouldn't do much about It. Also I wonder where this takes place in the wanderlust timeline.

Binagon said:
Y'all are getting rather worked up over a porn comic starring a character best described as "blowjob fox."

Considering how Tucker doesn't even try to attempt to say no is a decent indication that he's ok with it, never mind the fact that they're trying to advance the plot a bit more coyly instead of just outright saying "fire hoers and succ canid will now do a sex"

It's the curse of what happens when part of a story series gets serious. People start looking at everything in a critical eye about the characters once a series introduces serious plot elements. Especially one that's been critical of the sexual things going on within it.

Dragon_Monarch said:
Oh boy, I feel this comment section will become a war zone...

You should read the future more often.

Limedragon27 said:
I don't know, his facial expressions and the fact his dick is half hard looks pretty consensual to me.

It is not consensual unless consent is given

Can't rape what doesn't exist

I'd say they're both in quite a lucky position~ Sidra gets some horse cock she's been dying for, and tucker gets to enjoy a -very- nice break after all of his hard work~

Can't wait to see the next pages! Tucker is positively precious, I adore him.

Zregs said:
It's the curse of what happens when part of a story series gets serious. People start looking at everything in a critical eye about the characters once a series introduces serious plot elements. Especially one that's been critical of the sexual things going on within it.

My issue with it is that this isn't the first time something like this has happened, but people are beginning to debate about it now? Sidra is well known to be lusty, and Tucker has obviously been made to be the shy, flustered type of character, likely inexperienced with sex, so his current body language reflects someone who is embarrassed but willing, to match that personality. This type of dynamic exists in tons of porn, hell, pretty much the same thing happened with Tinsel and Scarlet in We Live Here Too but everyone understood that both parties involved was alright in that situation despite no formal consent being asked.

Just because Sidra is more dominant and Tucker is more submissive, it doesn't mean that she's a rapist or that he's an innocent. If Tucker didn't want this, he would at least give some indication of it, but instead he pops a half chub and shows her his cock when she asks because he understands she's interested in him. Other than the embarrassed look, which is a fairly ambiguous indicator of emotion, there's no other indication that he's uncomfortable with this situation: no fear, no anxiety, no hopelessness. Just him, his submissive personality, and his boner.

But of course, Sidra is the bad guy cuz sex vulpix wants to sex in comic revolving around sex.

Binagon said:
My issue with it is that this isn't the first time something like this has happened, but people are beginning to debate about it now? Sidra is well known to be lusty, and Tucker has obviously been made to be the shy, flustered type of character, likely inexperienced with sex, so his current body language reflects someone who is embarrassed but willing, to match that personality. This type of dynamic exists in tons of porn, hell, pretty much the same thing happened with Tinsel and Scarlet in We Live Here Too but everyone understood that both parties involved was alright in that situation despite no formal consent being asked.

Just because Sidra is more dominant and Tucker is more submissive, it doesn't mean that she's a rapist or that he's an innocent. If Tucker didn't want this, he would at least give some indication of it, but instead he pops a half chub and shows her his cock when she asks because he understands she's interested in him. Other than the embarrassed look, which is a fairly ambiguous indicator of emotion, there's no other indication that he's uncomfortable with this situation: no fear, no anxiety, no hopelessness. Just him, his submissive personality, and his boner.

But of course, Sidra is the bad guy cuz sex vulpix wants to sex in comic revolving around sex.

To be fair the situation started because she constantly looked pissed at him the entire time and he was not sure why, and he first tried offering extra money because of the inconvenience and to calm her down which was unlike the start of Tinsel and Scarlet's situation, which makes this situation a bit more sketchy to some peoples views.

But yes I would agree with you on the rest in general. It's not like when she tried to jump Bolero when he was asleep sort of situation despite his constant protests beforehand. It's meant to be a dominant Sidra with a semi-submissive flame horse and not much else.

Zregs said:
To be fair the situation started because she constantly looked pissed at him the entire time and he was not sure why, and he first tried offering extra money because of the inconvenience and to calm her down which was unlike the start of Tinsel and Scarlet's situation, which makes this situation a bit more sketchy to some peoples views.

But yes I would agree with you on the rest in general. It's not like when she tried to jump Bolero when he was asleep sort of situation despite his constant protests beforehand. It's meant to be a dominant Sidra with a semi-submissive flame horse and not much else.

Well, she was pissed because it was his job to check the wagon. So technically it's his fault that they're stuck there, so its kinda justified, but I see where you're coming from, the situation did begin with some tension.

Binagon said:
Well, she was pissed because it was his job to check the wagon. So technically it's his fault that they're stuck there, so its kinda justified, but I see where you're coming from, the situation did begin with some tension.

She wasn't mad at him for that reason at all. It was shown from the start that she was pissed at him because of her associating flame-horse with Bolero. Which is why she basically is telling him to call himself Bolero during this to relieve that tension she herself has, and that the reason she was upset over the wheel was because she didn't want to interact with him for the previous reason.

Zregs said:
She wasn't mad at him for that reason at all. It was shown from the start that she was pissed at him because of her associating flame-horse with Bolero. Which is why she basically is telling him to call himself Bolero during this to relieve that tension she herself has, and that the reason she was upset over the wheel was because she didn't want to interact with him for the previous reason.

She wasn't angry at him as an individual, she was annoyed (and sexually frustrated) that he was a horse. She didn't really get upset until after she got flung off the wagon due to the broken wheel: an event that could have been avoided had proper inspection been preformed, which was Tuckers job. This put them behind schedule, in a bad area, and down one member until they get a new wheel. That's the point that she gets mad at who he is, rather than what he is.

Binagon said:
She wasn't angry at him as an individual, she was annoyed (and sexually frustrated) that he was a horse. She didn't really get upset until after she got flung off the wagon due to the broken wheel: an event that could have been avoided had proper inspection been preformed, which was Tuckers job. This put them behind schedule, in a bad area, and down one member until they get a new wheel. That's the point that she gets mad at who he is, rather than what he is.

Hrm, will have to agree to disagree simply then. It seems less likely to me that's why she was mad at him in general, and more that her horniness and desire for horse along with the timeline since her last enjoyment of such have made it more personal for her.

Dabster69 said:
I'm just here for the story, sidra will probably get the boot from. I want to say from Bolero because Ryn or Misu wouldn't do much about It. Also I wonder where this takes place in the wanderlust timeline.

For the latter question, I'd assume this takes place right after the end of chapter 1 in "The Bottom Line" where all the characters head off with their job for the day, where this is Sidra's job (hence why the hatred for Bolero and her being horny for horse dick).

Remember guys. Chaut is innocent.

"Remember what we used to say?"

I, for one, am very interested in sociological questions like these. Probably the most interesting comment section I've seen for weeks.

no stop im a virgin (vibe check)

If anything like this happened for real, it would be sexual harassment, but often the whole purpose of porn is to enjoy situations that we wouldn't enjoy IRL.

Look at how many movies involve car-chases, shootouts, and fights to the death. I doubt audiences actually want to be involved in shootouts or car chases, any more than someone who enjoys roller coasters actually wants to get shoved off of a cliff with no parachute.

Personally, I've had lots of sexual fantasies about being "used" sexually by another person. I also know that I don't actually want for that to happen. It's not that mysterious.

Anyway, enjoy the porn, but also don't actually convince yourself that a scenario like this wouldn't constitute sexual harassment IRL.

discordschangeling said:
If he wasn't feeling it or comfortable with whats going on. He'd probably would not have lifted his leg.

I don't know, he could have lifted his leg, even if he weren't comfortable with it, because he's a shy, submissive fella who feels pressured by the forceful personality and is worried about what happens if he refuses.

THAT BEING SAID I don't get nonconsensual - or even dub-consensual - vibes from this. Just a shy fella who's inexperienced and thus flustered, but willing.

Idk, this comic makes me question who the real villain is in this story:
Is it the Guildmaster for coming up with this idea for the first place and not expecting it to go haywhire?
Is it the townsmen for boycotting and not accepting this “breach of integrity”?
Is it the banker for being an asshole and raising rent out of spite and exploitation?
All of the above?
This whole conflict is like a multiple choice question, but all of them are so close to true you can’t even decide who carries the blame.
It gives me a sense of discomfort...

Let the rodeo begin

Ace~ said:
Okay cool but I don't think the comment section of furry porn is the right place to have a serious discussion about that...

There's place to have these kinda discussions everywhere, its important. I don't think just saying "this is a furry porn site, shouldn't be discussing it here" really justifies much. You could make that argument for any site online.

Aqua717 said:
This... really looks like sexual harassment really. He looks uneasy or too nervous and she really don’t need to tell him to have a different name...I do not like how Sidra is. Poor Tucker, I would be extremely uneasy in his situation ):

True, but its furries, they likely lack laws like that, (or all together). yeah, poor Tucker, Sidra is just to horny to care about his feels.

What this comment section sounds like to me

binagon said:
Y'all are getting rather worked up over a porn comic starring a character best described as "blowjob fox."

Considering how Tucker doesn't even try to attempt to say no is a decent indication that he's ok with it, never mind the fact that they're trying to advance the plot a bit more coyly instead of just outright saying "fire hoers and succ canid will now do a sex"

Jesus, literally the first person to use logic before commenting. Binagon your comments keep me sane I swear.

Eh, may as well throw my two cents into the ring since folks are coming back to this page.

It's about power dynamics; who has control of the situation.

You think our boy would can "No thanks" and Sidra would just accept it and NEVER say (or act on) anything about it for the rest of the mission and then some? Please.

If you can't say "No" to a situation because you can't safely leave and/or walk away, the other person has more power than you (social or physical), there's possible punishment/retaliation, or receive worsened care for refusing, then yeah, that's more or less sexual coercion if not outright rape. And Tucker here has ALL those things going on here. The pool scene, however, doesn't. Which is why that is consensual and why this isn't.

And if you want non-con in your comic? That's fine! But you have to make sure it's portrayed as the intent of the scene and not an oopsie caused by a shady scenario or unfortunate implications.

That said, I get the feeling the next couple of pages will clear most (if not, all) of these concerns. Regardless, I think it's something worth talking about. No need to throw the demographic under the bus.

dragon_monarch said:
Oh boy, I feel this comment section will become a war zone...

"Sometimes, I get flashbacks to post 2164048..."

I'm just over here cracking up over the fact that E6's community will overwhelmingly upvote blatant rape porn then turn around and overwhelmingly upvote a comment saying a character being kinda rude to another character who's nervous as a maybe awkwardly-handled, but common, dom-and-sub porn personality trope fest "sexual harassment" like... where does this community even stand on this stuff? Idk, but as someone who's really not into noncon I'm not even bothered by this personally (it just, like I said, feels a bit awkwardly written) so it's like, whatever, man.

Big Win!

This is gonna sound...kinda dumb, but uh...
...is anyone else bothered by Tucker's junk changing colour?

Like, in the previous 8 pages (including the cover/title), his junk is this dark-cream color (with a half pink member), but now, it's just solid black.

Anyone else notice this?
Or is that just my eyes not working?

aqua717 said:
This... really looks like sexual harassment really. He looks uneasy or too nervous and she really don’t need to tell him to have a different name...I do not like how Sidra is. Poor Tucker, I would be extremely uneasy in his situation ):

I'm seeing this out of context (lol comments tag) but I took the "like this" to mean he wanted to to too, and it's heard to find a real life equlivant of the zig zag mouth.

aqua717 said:
This... really looks like sexual harassment really. He looks uneasy or too nervous and she really don’t need to tell him to have a different name...I do not like how Sidra is. Poor Tucker, I would be extremely uneasy in his situation ):

oh stfu and make a tumblr post about it.