I like this discussion going on. Doesn't just leap into the kink and leave those not into it feeling confused or annoyed - it's trying to lay down an understanding of what makes it appealing.

It won't connect with everyone of course, but it's an effort I appreciate a lot.

This is so incredibly hot! Please keep it up for us cucks, and bulls alike. <3

qwazzy said:
I like this discussion going on. Doesn't just leap into the kink and leave those not into it feeling confused or annoyed - it's trying to lay down an understanding of what makes it appealing.

It won't connect with everyone of course, but it's an effort I appreciate a lot.

Not enough stories grasp the power of correctly used exposition.

You don't have to agree to appreciate WHY it's appealing. The understanding creates sympathy and makes the work more enjoyable.

Cuck isn't necessarily just cheating or abuse. In a way it's like consensual voyeurism. Some people enjoy watching more than being IN the action.

I can't claim to understand this fetish(and don't think I ever really want to), but from Nick's end, isn't the core of this just concentrated humiliation and degradation? Like what else could he be getting out of this arrangement other than to be shown he isn't enough of a man for his wife/girlfriend?

faceless_skull said:
I can't claim to understand this fetish(and don't think I ever really want to), but from Nick's end, isn't the core of this just concentrated humiliation and degradation? Like what else could he be getting out of this arrangement other than to be shown he isn't enough of a man for his wife/girlfriend?

That is cuckolding, no?

ablackguy said:
That is cuckolding, no?

I dunno, I guess. The author seems to be trying to portray the complete absence of Nick's self-respect as something deep and meaningful though.

And then there is talk of limits, which I don't get either. If being humiliated/degraded is a positive in your relationship, what constitutes "too much"?

I can't say it's my kind of kink...but with this comic, it's done about in a way where I can respect those who do like this kink.

Most comics make cucking out to be done about where those involved treat each other like absolute garbage. But here....there seems to be an underlying reasoning behind it. Here, it has more of a "It helps me better appreciate my partner" sort of vibe that makes it passable in my book.

And the art itself is pretty good also, so that is another point in my book.

See THIS is how you write a proper cuckolding story.

Usually, ANY comic that EVER divides Nick and Judy is put to death with downvotes. But here, they make it abundantly clear that the fantasy they share is just that, a fantasy. All three parties don't want this to come in between the happy marriage and they just want to engage in some kinky fun.

blodhgarm92 said:
I can't say it's my kind of kink...but with this comic, it's done about in a way where I can respect those who do like this kink.

Most comics make cucking out to be done about where those involved treat each other like absolute garbage. But here....there seems to be an underlying reasoning behind it. Here, it has more of a "It helps me better appreciate my partner" sort of vibe that makes it passable in my book.

And the art itself is pretty good also, so that is another point in my book.

If you read the prior comics Nick is kinda treated like actual garbage. I’m still not 100% convinced he’s actually into this and not just doing it to keep Judy.

deya said:
If you read the prior comics Nick is kinda treated like actual garbage. I’m still not 100% convinced he’s actually into this and not just doing it to keep Judy.

Yeah, all this just brings venom in my stomach.

deya said:
If you read the prior comics Nick is kinda treated like actual garbage. I’m still not 100% convinced he’s actually into this and not just doing it to keep Judy.

Almost (there are some good ones out thier that dont do this) Every cuckold comic I come across, or even comics abut judy just portrays everytHong so negativly, oh judy has lost her mind, fuck nick judy is addicted to sex and sex alone, or cuckold in is a fetishes specifically for humiliating and driving a man to suicide, oh your not man enough I'm leaving you for this bull you wanted to only be a fetish thing. Watch this will be how it ends. If not I will eat my flex tape

Just here for the sex. :3

deya said:
If you read the prior comics Nick is kinda treated like actual garbage. I’m still not 100% convinced he’s actually into this and not just doing it to keep Judy.

And the whole comic's tone being set as Judy is a cheater with those birth control pills. Still don't understand why she even took them if she can't have children with Nick.

renobunny said:
And the whole comic's tone being set as Judy is a cheater with those birth control pills. Still don't understand why she even took them if she can't have children with Nick.

Judy was taking birth control because she was fucking other rabbits. If she had gotten pregnant, then she wouldn't have had an excuse to fuck them anymore.

Judy: I want to fuck a man who is "above" my husband because that connects me more to my husband

Well, that's where I have to leave the train. I have no clue how that works? Back in part 1, she didn't even know that Nick got turned on when she fucked other guys. She quite literally cheated on him, by making sure that she couldn't become pregnant thusly having an excuse to keep fucking them. But now, she's saying that she did it because it somehow connected her more with her husband?

On a completely different note, I just can't help be confused about Nick being the beta male in basically all Zoot cuck comics out there. When I see other non-Zoot cuck comics, the "bull" seems to have a lot of similar character traits with Nick. Nick is extremely charismatic, has a silver tongue that should be able to talk most people into submission, and he just exudes self-confidence. On top of that, since the movie showed us his height and weight, we know that he is rather large for a fox. Yet, all of these comics removes all of those traits from him. I don't really get it?

virtualhideout said:
Well, that's where I have to leave the train. I have no clue how that works? Back in part 1, she didn't even know that Nick got turned on when she fucked other guys. She quite literally cheated on him, by making sure that she couldn't become pregnant thusly having an excuse to keep fucking them. But now, she's saying that she did it because it somehow connected her more with her husband?

On a completely different note, I just can't help be confused about Nick being the beta male in basically all Zoot cuck comics out there. When I see other non-Zoot cuck comics, the "bull" seems to have a lot of similar character traits with Nick. Nick is extremely charismatic, has a silver tongue that should be able to talk most people into submission, and he just exudes self-confidence. On top of that, since the movie showed us his height and weight, we know that he is rather large for a fox. Yet, all of these comics removes all of those traits from him. I don't really get it?

It was said before on a previous image, and I can't find who said it, that all cuck comics that don't have Nick participating or not enjoying it have to nerf his personality to make it fit.

They should stop looking for logic to the whole situation and to this comic. What the characters allege does not correspond to their attitudes and that is because either the comic is only made to satisfy the fetishes of people who like infidelity. Perhaps the author did not have that intention and wanted to show a relationship that in a twisted way would benefit from this situation, but he did not know how to carry it correctly. Judy is a jerk and Nick is a submissive idiot that's what this comic shows and I doubt it will change.

renobunny said:
It was said before on a previous image, and I can't find who said it, that all cuck comics that don't have Nick participating or not enjoying it have to nerf his personality to make it fit.

That might have been me. I had said.....

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"Ultimately, to be honest, this is a well-drawn comic that's about the cucking fetish first and foremost. It happens to feature Nick and Judy but their primary contribution to the comic is their names and their physical appearance.

Anything about them that doesn't serve being a good fit for cucking (like personality, relationship chemistry, character development in the movie, etc) is just ignored.

In this comic, Nick and Judy are basically puppets used by the artist to say/do what needs to be said/done to serve the fetish."
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rva98014 said:
That might have been me. I had said.....

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"Ultimately, to be honest, this is a well-drawn comic that's about the cucking fetish first and foremost. It happens to feature Nick and Judy but their primary contribution to the comic is their names and their physical appearance.

Anything about them that doesn't serve being a good fit for cucking (like personality, relationship chemistry, character development in the movie, etc) is just ignored.

In this comic, Nick and Judy are basically puppets used by the artist to say/do what needs to be said/done to serve the fetish."
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Yes, thank you. Was looking for this to quote and give credit to. Just couldn't find it through all the pages.

I'm not a big fan of this fetish, but I still love the comic. And I'm my opinion there are worse fetishes then cuckolding. For example I in to scat but I'm not ashamed of it.

chickenman said:
I'm not a big fan of this fetish, but I still love the comic. And I'm my opinion there are worse fetishes then cuckolding. For example I in to scat but I'm not ashamed of it.

You should be.

Holy fucking shit it's a porn comic. Idk why everyone needs to get butt-hurt over a drawing.

rva98014 said:
That might have been me. I had said.....

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"Ultimately, to be honest, this is a well-drawn comic that's about the cucking fetish first and foremost. It happens to feature Nick and Judy but their primary contribution to the comic is their names and their physical appearance.

Anything about them that doesn't serve being a good fit for cucking (like personality, relationship chemistry, character development in the movie, etc) is just ignored.

In this comic, Nick and Judy are basically puppets used by the artist to say/do what needs to be said/done to serve the fetish."
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I actually mentioned your quote on Amadose's Furaffinity page when I offered the following answer to someone asking what the big deal was:

"I read one person's grievance once, and I can understand why him and others would be disappointed. In order to make these comics, you have to snip Nick's character. Rather than have him snarky and full of confidence, he instead is submissive and pushed to the side. He begs rather than tricks and falls in line rather than be assertive when needed.

An occasional bit of silliness (like him on this page holding up a muscle) can shine through, but for the most part it isn't really Nick. If you really enjoy Nick's character, then these comics would definitely not be enjoyable for most people."

Amadose actually responded with the following:

"Obviously I disagree! I don't think the scenarios I've been focusing on, really have room for his sass to shine through. The conversations have been far more weighty and emotional. Intimacy needs space, time, and tentativeness. Hopefully, I'll get more of their character to show up through as the story goes along. I mean, we're only like 20 or so pages in. I'm not going to get every checkbox ticked in that time you know?"

I mean, at least he didn't answer in a mean way at all. Heck he seems understanding of why people wouldn't like his work. But I of course have to disagree with him. Even just one snide remark or smirk would show something like his original character.

Like what if on this page he's leaning back on a chair loving the sight he's seeing with a grin. It's too easy to think of how you can keep his character in tack while making these.

virtualhideout said:
Well, that's where I have to leave the train. I have no clue how that works? Back in part 1, she didn't even know that Nick got turned on when she fucked other guys. She quite literally cheated on him, by making sure that she couldn't become pregnant thusly having an excuse to keep fucking them. But now, she's saying that she did it because it somehow connected her more with her husband?

On a completely different note, I just can't help be confused about Nick being the beta male in basically all Zoot cuck comics out there. When I see other non-Zoot cuck comics, the "bull" seems to have a lot of similar character traits with Nick. Nick is extremely charismatic, has a silver tongue that should be able to talk most people into submission, and he just exudes self-confidence. On top of that, since the movie showed us his height and weight, we know that he is rather large for a fox. Yet, all of these comics removes all of those traits from him. I don't really get it?

I actually asked Amadose:

"I'm really trying to understand this kink (in a non-aggressive manner). When Judy says "At the mercy of a man who's above my husband", what does that mean? Like find a guy whose just better than him? Sounds like it would sour a relationship really fast to find someone who's better than the guy you married. Or does it mean "above" like in terms of dominance? Like, he's not as funny, smart, or loving as Nick, but would come in and push him to the side? That kind of dominating presence that's higher than Nick's."

He responded:

"I'm not sure it needs toooo much explaining? But I can try: as part of her sexy times, she wants to be at the direction of another man, who's stationed above her husband.
She's excited at the idea of being an object for another man and loves that her hubby gets off on coming second (during their playtime).
Hope that helps? Their relationship won't sour - he's not being invited in to become her new husband - nobody planning on falling in 'love'."

So I think what he's saying is that when Judy wants someone"Better than my husband", it's someone more imposing either physically or by authority. Or at least pretends to be imposing.

faceless_skull said:
I dunno, I guess. The author seems to be trying to portray the complete absence of Nick's self-respect as something deep and meaningful though.

And then there is talk of limits, which I don't get either. If being humiliated/degraded is a positive in your relationship, what constitutes "too much"?

do you

not know anything at all about BDSM?

Finally, this comic gets back on track with a HEALTHY portrayal of the kink. That entire date night/shower section was fucking yikes all around.