Ya know, I can appreciate a heartfelt conversation. I’m not gonna pretend like I understand everyone’s fetish (obviously cause I don’t) but at least there’s some conversation and boundaries put up beforehand.

Aw shizz he bringing out the big guns. Boy ready to hit the ground running.

fredogodofredo18461 said:
If they weren't Judy and Nick this would be a very good comic. The characters make their points and set limits, that's good. Unfortunately, what was proposed does not agree at all with the personality of the characters that are being used. Why use them? Why not make original characters? That way it would be an understandable comic

Where were Judy and Nick's sexual preferences and kinks explained in the movie?

duke_logan said:
Where were Judy and Nick's sexual preferences and kinks explained in the movie?

What the person above said

faceless_skull said:
Nah, but Nick clearly had a sense self-respect. No offense to cucks, but that's not something you can claim to have when you are agreeing to this sort of arrangement.

Seriously, what did I miss/why are you here then? If everyone involved is consenting then why toss insults like that? I'm not into it, but someone else is and I say good for them. Why all the hate? I feel like I missed something.

wither&wane said:
Seriously, what did I miss/why are you here then? If everyone involved is consenting then why toss insults like that? I'm not into it, but someone else is and I say good for them. Why all the hate? I feel like I missed something.

It's not even an insult, just calling the facts of why it doesn't match Nick's character.

Consent isn't relevant to what I'm talking about, people consent to some pretty wild and self-destructive shit.

Wait, if you put Nick’s dick in a chastity cage, would that make it...

A Nicolas Cage?

blueballz96 said:
Wait, if you put Nick’s dick in a chastity cage, would that make it...

A Nicolas Cage?

Shut up and take my upvote, dammit

aquertyon said:
Ya know, I can appreciate a heartfelt conversation. I’m not gonna pretend like I understand everyone’s fetish (obviously cause I don’t) but at least there’s some conversation and boundaries put up beforehand.

It's hard to believe this comic deserves such a wholesome conversation when Judy lied to Nick's face for no reason other than for selfish desire.

alexandermugetsu said:
It's hard to believe this comic deserves such a wholesome conversation when Judy lied to Nick's face for no reason other than for selfish desire.

That's a good point that kinda gets glossed over. Also the absolute worse thing to do when exploring a lifestyle like this one.

wither&wane said:
Why all the hate? I feel like I missed something.

There was this cute Disney movie called Zootopia...

moximoore said:
That's a good point that kinda gets glossed over. Also the absolute worse thing to do when exploring a lifestyle like this one.

Indeed. It tries to justify the cuckoldry to some degree, but like all others, it falls flat in understanding how this'll work with long-time partnership.

wither&wane said:
Seriously, what did I miss/why are you here then? If everyone involved is consenting then why toss insults like that? I'm not into it, but someone else is and I say good for them. Why all the hate? I feel like I missed something.

Well, I can't answer for faceless_skull, but I'll give you my answer.

I'm here because I'm a fan of the characters and the movie they're from. I don't see why I, as a fan, should be barred from seeing this. And in the same way that people can praise the work, people should also be allowed to be critical of it. If you enjoy this content, then I don't see why a critical comment would impact that?

Also, if this really isn't made for me, i.e. a fan of Zootopia, then why are Judy and Nick being used in this comic? What do non-fans gain from seeing characters they have no emotional investment in being portrayed like this? As I see it, Judy and Nick could easily have been replaced by OC characters and it wouldn't have impacted the enjoyment of the comic for every non-fan and at the same time, the fans would have been spared for something that was never aimed for them in the first place. This is why it can be hard not to view this comic as some sort of an attack on the fans.

I guess you missed the part where Judy straight up cheated on Nick in part 1. And in part 2 she canceled her date with Nick because a "bull" called her. It all shows how toxic their relationship is. This is in no way a comic that tries to show how to properly handle cuck in a relationship.

Also, notice how every time we learn that this is what Nick "wants" it's always Judy saying it. Add in the fact that Judy used birth control from the very beginning, it really starts to paint a picture of Judy being extremely manipulative. She obviously never wanted kids and now she keeps making sure that Nick thinks that this new lifestyle is something he wants, that this was his idea, all along. And he jumps right in because he completely lacks any self-respect. Just toxic all around.

virtualhideout said:
Well, I can't answer for faceless_skull, but I'll give you my answer.

I'm here because I'm a fan of the characters and the movie they're from. I don't see why I, as a fan, should be barred from seeing this. And in the same way that people can praise the work, people should also be allowed to be critical of it. If you enjoy this content, then I don't see why a critical comment would impact that?

Also, if this really isn't made for me, i.e. a fan of Zootopia, then why are Judy and Nick being used in this comic? What do non-fans gain from seeing characters they have no emotional investment in being portrayed like this? As I see it, Judy and Nick could easily have been replaced by OC characters and it wouldn't have impacted the enjoyment of the comic for every non-fan and at the same time, the fans would have been spared for something that was never aimed for them in the first place. This is why it can be hard not to view this comic as some sort of an attack on the fans.

I guess you missed the part where Judy straight up cheated on Nick in part 1. And in part 2 she canceled her date with Nick because a "bull" called her. It all shows how toxic their relationship is. This is in no way a comic that tries to show how to properly handle cuck in a relationship.

Also, notice how every time we learn that this is what Nick "wants" it's always Judy saying it. Add in the fact that Judy used birth control from the very beginning, it really starts to paint a picture of Judy being extremely manipulative. She obviously never wanted kids and now she keeps making sure that Nick thinks that this new lifestyle is something he wants, that this was his idea, all along. And he jumps right in because he completely lacks any self-respect. Just toxic all around.

Respect for this man. I'm sure he captured exactly what many of us think when reading these comics

I do sometimes end up liking cuckold images cause of chastity but I'm not really into cuck stuff by itself. Not the biggest fan of this comic, but jesus christ people here are so just willing to complain.

virtualhideout said:
Well, I can't answer for faceless_skull, but I'll give you my answer.

I'm here because I'm a fan of the characters and the movie they're from. I don't see why I, as a fan, should be barred from seeing this. And in the same way that people can praise the work, people should also be allowed to be critical of it. If you enjoy this content, then I don't see why a critical comment would impact that?

Also, if this really isn't made for me, i.e. a fan of Zootopia, then why are Judy and Nick being used in this comic? What do non-fans gain from seeing characters they have no emotional investment in being portrayed like this? As I see it, Judy and Nick could easily have been replaced by OC characters and it wouldn't have impacted the enjoyment of the comic for every non-fan and at the same time, the fans would have been spared for something that was never aimed for them in the first place. This is why it can be hard not to view this comic as some sort of an attack on the fans.

I guess you missed the part where Judy straight up cheated on Nick in part 1. And in part 2 she canceled her date with Nick because a "bull" called her. It all shows how toxic their relationship is. This is in no way a comic that tries to show how to properly handle cuck in a relationship.

Also, notice how every time we learn that this is what Nick "wants" it's always Judy saying it. Add in the fact that Judy used birth control from the very beginning, it really starts to paint a picture of Judy being extremely manipulative. She obviously never wanted kids and now she keeps making sure that Nick thinks that this new lifestyle is something he wants, that this was his idea, all along. And he jumps right in because he completely lacks any self-respect. Just toxic all around.

This comment alone is so full of just... weirdness.

"If you enjoy this content, then I don't see why a critical comment would impact that?"
If you're such a Zootopia fan with such character commitment, why would one comic impact that?

"Also, if this really isn't made for me, i.e. a fan of Zootopia, then why are Judy and Nick being used in this comic? [...]"
Wait... what? So, you're a fan and the artist/his viewers aren't? And that's because of what exactly? What makes you a fan and people who like this "not fans"? Is it the fact that your imaginary extension of a cartoon character is more 'innocent'? But sure, let's assume they're not "emotionally invested" in characters that appeared in one 2-hour movie, whatever emotional investment there can be in such characters past the storyline already shown, what if they just like the design of the characters? Is that not valid? Do they have to appreciate every detail about those characters in order to like how they look? Are only the die-hardest of the fans allowed to be attracted to something/someone?

No I don't like the things you point out later either, but if others here do, I'm genuinely happy for em. Good to know they found an art piece that they enjoy.

faceless_skull said:
Nah, but Nick clearly had a sense self-respect. No offense to cucks, but that's not something you can claim to have when you are agreeing to this sort of arrangement.

"No offense but *says offensive shit*" Okay, again, not into cucking but this hits me personally, and just sounds like an insult to me.
So, having a weird sexual preference now makes you lack self-respect? Really? So if I like playing submissive in bed - that might be just being a sub for another male in a gay relationship, wearing chastity, or in this case cucking - and enjoy that while I'm aroused, that makes me lack self-respect? Just because of stuff I do in bed? Even if I live rest of my life like everybody else? Really? What the hell do you think self-respect is then? Cause to me your logic here sounds like the rules can bend to the point where everyone who ever took it from behind just likes being degraded constantly by everyone everywhere. It's not exactly how it works, and self respect has nothing to do with sexual preference. I might find XYZ to be hot while playing around sexually with someone. But I still am confident, and when out of bed I still feel like I act with honour and dignity, and I do feel like I'm worth something. And that's literally the definition of self-respect. What you said is proper offensive to anyone who enjoys "weird things" sexually.

fredogodofredo18461 said:
If they weren't Judy and Nick this would be a very good comic. The characters make their points and set limits, that's good. Unfortunately, what was proposed does not agree at all with the personality of the characters that are being used. Why use them? Why not make original characters? That way it would be an understandable comic

overthink much mate XD just enjoy the goddamn comic

Jesus, its a keybord warzone here

blueballz96 said:
Wait, if you put Nick’s dick in a chastity cage, would that make it...

A Nicolas Cage?

You're fired

I just can't understand the differences between Cheating and Cuckold. While some of the kindly users here have pointed out, cuckolding is usually being known by the couple, and they both enjoy it. Also "it comes from faith in each other" and "it strengthens the relationship? " while cheating is the opposite?

So apart from the faith thingy, do you supposed to abuse the other one in a cuckold relationship, like how J have been treating pathetic N like garbage this whole time, and in the later of this comic too? Or is this some choices of plot the author choose to draw? Cause what's really draw us to like Judy is the kind charecter she is and in this comic, she lacked every bit of it.

And is this normal that the life, work, relationship with others,.... of the couple should be affected that much by the kink? I've never experienced in sex kink but I believe it should has its own limit. For cuckold, should it stay between the couple and the third party involved, or does it supposed to be much known by the others as it can be?

Like I don't know, Ama is really trying to make the story deep and sweet somewhat here, but for all I see, this is just a very toxic relationship, it's almost like the couple is not enjoying and exploring the kink anymore, that their life are becoming just the kink itself.

Long story short: is this poorly cuckold written or am I not into cuckold as I think I am? Cause no offence intended to you all cuckold fans here, I got really upset and troubled reading this while I've come to like some other cuckold, cheating arts before. And to think of it, is there any specific tag for husband cuckold wife? How come that I've never found any of those before?

How about we all just tone it done a few notches in here? There's no need to get upset.

faceless_skull said:
Nah, but Nick clearly had a sense self-respect. No offense to cucks, but that's not something you can claim to have when you are agreeing to this sort of arrangement.

A cuck can know what they want. Cuckolding as a fetish isn't nessessarily from wanting to feel inadequate; it's a fetish.

sosocialsolice said:
And to think of it, is there any specific tag for husband cuckold wife? How come that I've never found any of those before?

The term for that is cuckquean. Although it's not 100% the same since the term cuckquean includes both relationships where the "cheated" partner gets off on the power dynamics and degradation like in the classic cuckold relationship, and those where they can just get off on their partners having sex with someone else sans degradation and d/s dynamics as in a hotwife relationship.

sosocialsolice said:
I just can't understand the differences between Cheating and Cuckold.

Do you understand the difference between consensual S&M and spousal abuse? It's similar. It's a different kind of pain, not physical but emotional, but in both cases it can be arousing to be "hurt" by someone you trust. For it to be healthy, you need consent, limits, and communication. You want it to hurt "good", not just wear you down.

Long story short: is this poorly cuckold written

Yeah, kind of. There's unhealthy elements here that the author tries to gloss over. It's pretty naive in the way it presents the issue. Don't use it as a guide. To be fair though, it's just a comic catering to a specific kink. People are scrutinizing it a lot more than they would other kinks.

alexandermugetsu said:
Indeed. It tries to justify the cuckoldry to some degree, but like all others, it falls flat in understanding how this'll work with long-time partnership.

The problem is trying to balance fantasy vs reality in writing a fetish story. Ultimately M/M/F cuckoldry is a bisexual relationship, and the cuckold is a submissive bisexual. The level of bisexuality varies but you'll find that the bull being serviced by, or fucking the cuck is a very common part of this. TBH, of the people I've discussed this fetish with all the cuck personalities love the idea of getting mounted and 95% of the bull personalities are well open to the idea of doing it.

Ok, so why is that important to structuring this story? Well submissives want things to happen to them. It's like.... romance. Romance isn't romance if your giving your perspective partner a step by step guide. "now I want you to put roses out before our date..." What makes romance so great for the pursued partner is that it is happening to them, it's exciting and full of the unknown. The same thing is with submissives, really "bottoms." They want to put on a display, be attractive and be hunted by the person they want. When it's the right guy doing the perusing he takes the lead and initiates. The bottom doesn't so much lose control, but temporarily cedes it in order to be led.

Ok! So this plays out in cuckoldry. The fetish is sharing her with the ultimate male. The bull is supposed to be the epitome of masculine power (thus penis size comparison is a common crass way of representing this.) But remember, the cuck is a submissive, a "bottom." The most erotic thing in the world is if this situation is pushed onto him and he lets it happen. This obviously is not the way to make a relationship work and that's the problem when writing cuckold fetish stories. An incredibly erotic (to cuck minded men) aspect of this just is unworkable in reality. It's like.... rape fetish that way.

The reality is that there needs to be a constant sort of negotiating going on between all three partners to make it work. A sense of betrayal at any point will cause this to blow up. There's so many things tied into it, like the cuck experiences the adrenaline of a "break up" and the high of a "make up" every night that they play that game. However if there is ever the corruption of a sense of betrayal there can never be the trust of the make up part of the game. He is a submissive, and when someone submits they are ceding things in trust for safe keeping to the other partner. There has to be a rock solid foundation for that to work. The chastity cage which is pretty common in cuckold thematic is a great symbol for that. The caged male surrendered even his ability to have an erection, but the point is that the cage has a key. It's a very common trope that she wears the key, a subconscious sign "I have you in my mind always" and even a promise of "one day I will use this key." There's a lot going on under the surface here!

And yes, as I said there's a lot of bisexuality there. I've spoken to a number of open people about this fetish now and the cucks always love the idea of being fucked too. It's kind of interesting but I summarize it like this. Many ask what on earth would drive a man to form such a relationship? Well he doesn't so much lose a girlfriend, he gains a boyfriend when it's done well.

colonel__klink said:
The problem is trying to balance fantasy vs reality in writing a fetish story. Ultimately M/M/F cuckoldry is a bisexual relationship, and the cuckold is a submissive bisexual. The level of bisexuality varies but you'll find that the bull being serviced by, or fucking the cuck is a very common part of this. TBH, of the people I've discussed this fetish with all the cuck personalities love the idea of getting mounted and 95% of the bull personalities are well open to the idea of doing it.

Ok, so why is that important to structuring this story? Well submissives want things to happen to them. It's like.... romance. Romance isn't romance if your giving your perspective partner a step by step guide. "now I want you to put roses out before our date..." What makes romance so great for the pursued partner is that it is happening to them, it's exciting and full of the unknown. The same thing is with submissives, really "bottoms." They want to put on a display, be attractive and be hunted by the person they want. When it's the right guy doing the perusing he takes the lead and initiates. The bottom doesn't so much lose control, but temporarily cedes it in order to be led.

Ok! So this plays out in cuckoldry. The fetish is sharing her with the ultimate male. The bull is supposed to be the epitome of masculine power (thus penis size comparison is a common crass way of representing this.) But remember, the cuck is a submissive, a "bottom." The most erotic thing in the world is if this situation is pushed onto him and he lets it happen. This obviously is not the way to make a relationship work and that's the problem when writing cuckold fetish stories. An incredibly erotic (to cuck minded men) aspect of this just is unworkable in reality. It's like.... rape fetish that way.

The reality is that there needs to be a constant sort of negotiating going on between all three partners to make it work. A sense of betrayal at any point will cause this to blow up. There's so many things tied into it, like the cuck experiences the adrenaline of a "break up" and the high of a "make up" every night that they play that game. However if there is ever the corruption of a sense of betrayal there can never be the trust of the make up part of the game. He is a submissive, and when someone submits they are ceding things in trust for safe keeping to the other partner. There has to be a rock solid foundation for that to work. The chastity cage which is pretty common in cuckold thematic is a great symbol for that. The caged male surrendered even his ability to have an erection, but the point is that the cage has a key. It's a very common trope that she wears the key, a subconscious sign "I have you in my mind always" and even a promise of "one day I will use this key." There's a lot going on under the surface here!

And yes, as I said there's a lot of bisexuality there. I've spoken to a number of open people about this fetish now and the cucks always love the idea of being fucked too. It's kind of interesting but I summarize it like this. Many ask what on earth would drive a man to form such a relationship? Well he doesn't so much lose a girlfriend, he gains a boyfriend when it's done well.

That might make sense in some ways, but not exactly here.

Nick hasn't shown interest in being fucked by the other male, or even Judy, he only cares to see the other two fuck each other, so the rules don't apply the same.

The romance angle is hard to buy since Judy had actually lied to Nick about being on birth control for no other reason than she liked it, completely showing no interest in Nick's own feelings in the matter. Cuckold romance isn't something this comic portrays particularly well.

alexandermugetsu said:
That might make sense in some ways, but not exactly here.

Nick hasn't shown interest in being fucked by the other male, or even Judy, he only cares to see the other two fuck each other, so the rules don't apply the same.

The romance angle is hard to buy since Judy had actually lied to Nick about being on birth control for no other reason than she liked it, completely showing no interest in Nick's own feelings in the matter. Cuckold romance isn't something this comic portrays particularly well.

On the abuse note: You seem to have gotten things mixed up. I wasn't saying that cuckoldry *IS* romance, but rather *LIKE* romance in that the fantasy people have for it is that it happens to you. This create the schism I mentioned later, a sense of betrayal. Cucks want to be pushed into this, but pushing them into that is generally a form of betrayal which people are pointing out. Cuckold fiction in order to be the most erotic it can be needs the cuck to be pushed into it, but in order for it to be anything other than a horror story needs to gloss over that betrayal in the rest of the story. It's just an inbuilt conflict between erotic desire and writing a story where the characters would plausibly stay together.

And yeah. Cuckoldry doesn't usually start with the cuck expressing his interest in getting mounted by the bull. Watching his wife get fucked is the high of highs, so most if given a hard choice between the two will pick watching his wife. But you even see that little subtle subtext even here. Owen, not Judy is the one to recommend putting Nick into chastity. There's already a subtle suggestion of male/male interaction. In this case Owen potentially carrying the key that subtly says "you're in my mind always" (so long as it's dangling from his neck.)

As I said the level of bisexuality varies, some cucks and bulls never physically interact but the purpose of the bull is to play as the most powerful attractive male ever. It's not just about watching his wife getting fucked, it's about watching his beautiful wife get fucked by a POWERFUL man. It's a swirling knot of emotions and one of them is a sort of vicarious living out the desire to fuck the bull himself.

Ah, so this is what goes on before consensual cucking.

Fuck all the haters that can't discern between a work of erotic fantasy with different circumstances vs an official SFW movie both of which aren't even real lol, this shit is fucking hot period.
This is my fav page so far btw because of the Chastity of course.

alexandermugetsu said:
Indeed. It tries to justify the cuckoldry to some degree, but like all others, it falls flat in understanding how this'll work with long-time partnership.

I think simply you just don’t understand how a relationship like this would work. There are real cuckold relationships like this out there that do work.

Holy shit I love this, he wants to respect boundaries while pushing them to better pleasure both his partners in cuckold, Amadose is so fucking good

residentcuck said:
Holy shit I love this, he wants to respect boundaries while pushing them to better pleasure both his partners in cuckold, Amadose is so fucking good

He really isn't...

aquertyon said:
Ya know, I can appreciate a heartfelt conversation. I’m not gonna pretend like I understand everyone’s fetish (obviously cause I don’t) but at least there’s some conversation and boundaries put up beforehand.

Thing is this is actually how kink meet ups like this are supposed to go maybe alittle less sexual prominent but it would be like a first date and discussing both interests so im kinda glad this leaned closer to a healthier take and I would say this is probably after alot of communication between Nick and judy

I really would love to see more Nick Wilde in chastity.

Apparently the majority of people following this comic are in denial about this specific page.

That little caged cock floating above Owen's hands is such a funny piece of iconography