Okay, I think I'm out with this comic. I tried my best to be open with the idea of THIS, but it seems my person can't really digest this sort of relationship. Sorry but no for me.
P. S.: I didn't put a dislike because the art is good

vesa said:
Okay, I think I'm out with this comic. I tried my best to be open with the idea of THIS, but it seems my person can't really digest this sort of relationship. Sorry but no for me.
P. S.: I didn't put a dislike because the art is good

Eh, I pretty much agree with you. I mean, I can see a "cucking fetish", but a "telling everyone and his kid sister that you're letting your girlfriend get banged by someone else" fetish? Quck that noise.

Yea, this was the stopping point for me too. That’s asking for to much in my opinion.

Ok, things went wrong before but this is just too much

lynnwhite said:
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all! In that case.. I love this comic! It seriously appeals to me. The art-style, the story.. Very nice job! Keep it up. <3

Well, everyone with their fetishes. At least the art is good, that cannot be denied

I find it amusing how the previous page had Nick saying "I see us taking it slow and easy at first, maybe a once a week thing while we see if there's chemistry. Then slowly ramp things up".

Then they immediately launch into discussions of denial, genital caging, meeting multiple times a week, kicking Nick out of the bedroom, not bothering to ask for permission, Owen having exclusive bareback rights, and now Judy broadcasting her cucking to every canid in the ZPD.

Realistically, these should be topics they'd be talking about months from now.

This must be some definition of "slow and easy" I'm unfamiliar with.

rva98014 said:
I find it amusing how the previous page had Nick saying "I see us taking it slow and easy at first, maybe a once a week thing while we see if there's chemistry. Then slowly ramp things up".

Then they immediately launch into discussions of denial, genital caging, meeting multiple times a week, kicking Nick out of the bedroom, not bothering to ask for permission, Owen having exclusive bareback rights, and now Judy broadcasting her cucking to every canid in the ZPD.

Realistically, these should be topics they'd be talking about months from now.

This must be some definition of "slow and easy" I'm unfamiliar with.

He said "slow and easy" but still he wants all that what said in the last two pages. Owen's just suggested all that and Nick didn't seems to object.

henlein_thekobold said:
He said "slow and easy" but still he wants all that what said in the last two pages. Owen's just suggested all that and Nick didn't seems to object.

I was being sarcastic with my "slow and easy" comment. I had hoped that would have been apparent when I said these were topics they should be talking about months later.

Sure they may all be interested in indulging in all these things, but they just met Owen. There are some considerable trust issues involved with any of these suggestions and it's like they went from zero to 60 in seconds.

Amadose caught criticism in his earlier installments for not showing the reader that Nick and Judy had actually discussed and approved of all the things they were doing to each other in those early stories.

So Judy came across as a heartless bitch and Nick as spineless milquetoast.

Here Amadose seems to trying to say "look, look... here they are talking about it". Which is true. They just aren't talking about things with any semblance of safety or maturity. It's all driven by how horny it makes them.

I wouldn't bother looking for actual realism or reason here.

The whole thing just seems like a massive buildup to absolutely curb-stomp the last shreds of dignity Nick still has. They haven't discussed a single thing in this arrangement that isn't specifically designed around marginalizing or devaluing him.

faceless_skull said:
I wouldn't bother looking for actual realism or reason here.

The whole thing just seems like a massive buildup to absolutely curb-stomp the last shreds of dignity Nick still has. They haven't discussed a single thing in this arrangement that isn't specifically designed around marginalizing or devaluing him.

Well, you cannot demand much from a comic that from the beginning has only wanted to satisfy the fetishes of the people who read it, leaving aside all the pre-established characteristics of the characters and all previous development, not to say that if it were not for the shape and names would be other characters. What makes me sad is that such a good art is accompanied by such a poor and meaningless story.

Love where this is going! Keep it up!

One thing on this page. Wolfword is a coworker and apparent friend of Nick and Judy. He smells another fox has been rutting Judy and he doesn't show concern or suspicion at this, but excitement? Is everyone just shitty in this story besides Nick, besides him being a doormat?

renobunny said:
One thing on this page. Wolfword is a coworker and apparent friend of Nick and Judy. He smells another fox has been rutting Judy and he doesn't show concern or suspicion at this, but excitement? Is everyone just shitty in this story besides Nick, besides him being a doormat?

Can't imagine working in a traditionally "macho" profession(like being a cop) and actually letting your co-workers know that you are a raging cuck, not to mention your wife who cucks you works there also.

It'd be absolute social suicide.

What's ruining it for me is the utterly unrelatable characters. They're like cutouts you see at the grocery store huckstering another mediocre product as the best thing ever. They lack empathy and seem to be constructs for justifying a fetish carried one step too far. They're just as flat as the cutouts as well with nothing supporting their existence aside from an unauthorized use of Disney's creations and the bizarre fixation on sexualizing Nick and Judy.

callista_vavoom said:
What's ruining it for me is the utterly unrelatable characters. They're like cutouts you see at the grocery store huckstering another mediocre product as the best thing ever. They lack empathy and seem to be constructs for justifying a fetish carried one step too far. They're just as flat as the cutouts as well with nothing supporting their existence aside from an unauthorized use of Disney's creations and the bizarre fixation on sexualizing Nick and Judy.

That's something I've never been able to understand about fanart/fanfiction.

If you're creating a story where a kink/fetish is the primary focus and you include Nick and Judy in your story but your version of those characters have virtually nothing in common with their personality except their appearance, then... WHY BOTHER USING THOSE CHARACTERS in the first place?

Why not just create two OCs that have a similar appearance, call them Rick and Trudy and be done with it?

You've acknowledged the inspiration for your characters and you don't have to bother with irking the fandom because you are clearly doing a porn parody of those characters.

A few members in the cucking community have voiced their displeasure to me about the perception of their fetish in this comic.

One of the glaring things said, was that the comic seems to focus solely on the degradation of Nick as a partner and not nearly enough on the intimacy and sexual pleasure that happens between the couple who're partaking in it.

Particularly, that Nick and Judy should also be experiencing a boost in their own sexual experiences.

It was an interesting conversation. I admit that I thought all cuckolding was essentially what we're reading. But, there's many more layers that are almost never portrayed.

I'm here for hot dirty sex
Not gor public humiliation

rva98014 said:
If you're creating a story where a kink/fetish is the primary focus and you include Nick and Judy in your story but your version of those characters have virtually nothing in common with their personality except their appearance, then... WHY BOTHER USING THOSE CHARACTERS in the first place?

Why not just create two OCs that have a similar appearance, call them Rick and Trudy and be done with it?

You mean... like nearly every pornographic depiction of otherwise SFW characters in media ever made?

Everyone's acting like this is some spiteful change to Nick and Judy in some fashion, but using canon characters with artist-chosen differences is the most common thing you can find in rule 34. There's also literally nothing wrong with it whatsoever. You don't have to like the artist's depiction of Nick and Judy, but pushing this idea that they're doing it "wrong" is nonsensical. Of course they're not faithful to the original characters - EVERY fanwork that isn't made by the original writers of the movie is just as unfaithful, even if your headcanon wants to pretend it's totally 100% canon that they do X/Y with each other after the events of the movie.

... but I'm sure this is going to be a rant to a brick wall, because y'all just don't stop with this whole "this is how Nick and Judy are SUPPOSED to be" crusade.

Does Amadose need a hug?

I feel like at this point he needs some affable human contact, just so he can take a step back.

qwazzy said:
Everyone's acting like this is some spiteful change to Nick and Judy in some fashion, but using canon Of course they're not faithful to the original characters - EVERY fanwork that isn't made by the original writers of the movie is just as unfaithful, even if your headcanon wants to pretend it's totally 100% canon that they do X/Y with each other after the events of the movie.

I'm not arguing one way or the other regarding the current story, but claiming that every portrayal that isn't by the original authors is inherently equally unfaithful is absolutely nonsensical, given that the movie gave us plenty of material to judge whether certain actions or behaviors would be compatible with their personalities. All fanwork about the characters being equally noncanon is not the same as all of it being equally unfaithful to what the source material established.

Your stance tries to delegitimize large swaths of character and plot-based criticisms of fanworks simply because of their nature as fanwork, which is completely asinine.

Once again, these comments are fucking hilarious.

You know you can just stop reading the comic without needing to leave a comment telling the world that you'll stop reading the comic...right?

And KelKelKun's comment having a -3 score for praising the comic is just telling how far all you e621 anti-cuckold people will go. It's just hilarious at this point seeing the comments on cuck work. Gimme the popcorn and I'll just keep watching.

why is it always cucking between these two characters? Why is everyone misunderstanding the basic core concepts of cuckolding which is built solely on trust and communication? Why cant we just cuddle and fuck?

Everyone's talking about whether they like or don't like where this is going (everyone has their preferences) but why is no one talking about how adorable Judy looks in that outfit at the bottom

like it or not, at least the comments are a wild read.

lynnwhite said:
If you don't have anything nice to say...

That's not how this works. Just because they're not praising it doesn't mean they're not "being nice". Expressing their dislike of something isn't "mean". It's literally what these comments are for.

windthorpryas said:
That's not how this works. Just because they're not praising it doesn't mean they're not "being nice". Expressing their dislike of something isn't "mean". It's literally what these comments are for.

Does this person not understand the use of criticism and reviewing?

windthorpryas said:
That's not how this works. Just because they're not praising it doesn't mean they're not "being nice". Expressing their dislike of something isn't "mean". It's literally what these comments are for.

I disagree, comments are meant to be whatever the user wants. Within the rules of e621 in this case. I just want to spread positivity instead of negativity is all. Even though my positivity is down voted to hell for some reason.

The concept of a realistic conversation between couple and bull is interesting, but even though I don't care about their character consistency as much as some here, I find it getting kind of odd with how much they're contradicting themselves now. That being said, I'm really liking the scent play :3 I didn't expect to ever see that in a comic!

Jesus Christ this comment section is whiny. Just some scent marking play and everyone becomes a catholic nun.

It's ironic that Amadose draws anthropomorphic furries very, very well but generally writes them like they are just humans in fursuits.

His description of scentplay is "I want every other canidae bold enough to smell you to know that it's not Nick breeding you anymore." And then shows Wolfard invading Judy's personal space to sniff at her.

He draws it like Judy has a coy little secret.

This is not even close to accurate. A wolf's sense of smell is so acute, so developed that as soon as Judy walks into the ZPD bullpen every wolf in the room will know what Judy's up to. And that's not taking into account those animals with a greater sense of smell than wolves.

She might as well be constantly wearing a t-shirt saying "Nick's not fucking me anymore!!!!!".

Yo guys, if that's so wrong to you, why are you still on e621?

lynnwhite said:
I disagree, comments are meant to be whatever the user wants. Within the rules of e621 in this case. I just want to spread positivity instead of negativity is all. Even though my positivity is down voted to hell for some reason.

Because people disagree with you, presumably.

alexandermugetsu said:
Does this person not understand the use of criticism and reviewing?

Perhaps not.

lynnwhite said:
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all! In that case.. I love this comic! It seriously appeals to me. The art-style, the story.. Very nice job! Keep it up. <3

So you're basically a socialist

durra said:
I'm not arguing one way or the other regarding the current story, but claiming that every portrayal that isn't by the original authors is inherently equally unfaithful is absolutely nonsensical, given that the movie gave us plenty of material to judge whether certain actions or behaviors would be compatible with their personalities. All fanwork about the characters being equally noncanon is not the same as all of it being equally unfaithful to what the source material established.

Your stance tries to delegitimize large swaths of character and plot-based criticisms of fanworks simply because of their nature as fanwork, which is completely asinine.

There is tons of artwork, comics and stories that portray Fluttershy as a sex-starved nymphomaniac slut, and nobody has a problem with those most of the time. Is that 'faithful to the source material'? The character who is so shy and antisocial that she's legitimately afraid of her own shadow?

sexygriffon said:
There is tons of artwork, comics and stories that portray Fluttershy as a sex-starved nymphomaniac slut, and nobody has a problem with those most of the time. Is that 'faithful to the source material'? The character who is so shy and antisocial that she's legitimately afraid of her own shadow?

I mean she is basically bipolar in the show, so it's possible

So it makes sense you want to know and sit down with the ones fucking your girl, but like is this suggesting other random males are going to pursue her? Or that she will literally be that one girl everyone calls a slut or skank behind their back but they can still hear them, either way. That's bad

Love this comic, it's cute and written in a way that I really enjoy! Author clearly thinks deeply about the way they want to write characters, and I'm digging the development and thought they've put into fleshing out the ramping up of the "conditions". I'll keep an open mind for whatever's next!

Yeeeeah... So... As someone who has been the Bull for a cuck-couple in a few situations, people calling this out is pretty spot-on. I've read the whole comic up to this point, and this guy is coming across heavily as a Predator, and not just because he's a fox... This guy is breaking some pretty core rules for people trying to engage in 'good' cuckold play. The things he's asking for aren't ok, and are things that WILL fuck with a relationship in a negative and harmful way. And just as others have said before, 'slow and steady' got abandoned on the prior page, this guy is steamrolling through this 'talk' and creating some really unrealistic expectations. Everything going on with this says he doesn't want to cuck Nick, he wants to Replace Nick.

This is a classic case that I've sadly seen before. Person leads into the discussion by tickling all their kinky buttons, gets them 'on the hook', and then starts pushing for more because once you find a person who seems like a 'fit', you tend to be extremely hesitant to say no because you don't want to lose a potential match, since this situation is extremely rare.

What gets me is how many of these comments treating being consensually cucked as if it were inherently a bad thing that isn't fair to Nick. Imagine people commenting on a spanking picture that hitting someone is physical abuse, and thus it is horrible and demeaning and awful that the dom would inflict that on the pathetic, shameful sub. Imagine seeing long diatribes about how someone is unfollowing the artist because it DISGUSTS them to see ASSAULT AND BATTERY being inflicted and how DEGRADING and and DEVALUING and MARGINALIZING that is to have someone body's VIOLATED that way. Hey, guess what, some people like to be spanked, and some people like to be cucked.

Somehow, most people seem to understand that some people like to be physically hurt, but haven't yet wrapped their head around that idea that some people to be emotionally hurt in this specific way, to explore their feelings around it. Nick isn't being spineless, Judy isn't being heartless; they are indulging their kinks. They are pursuing a sexual fantasy. Good for them!

Yeah, some people are trying to critique specific elements of how they're going about it, but a lot of the comments only make sense if you assume your partner fucking someone else is inherently shameful. Like a man being in a non-monogamous relationship is a personal failing on his part, regardless of whether he consents to it and what he gets out of it. Guys, please pay attention: a girlfriend is not a piece of property. You aren't less of a man for not being possessive and controlling over your girlfriend's pussy. You can enjoy being poly and your partner being poly, wow! Humiliation-play and actual humiliation are not the same thing!

(Also, I think Owen's listing of things on the last page wasn't meant to be him rushing into them, but him trying to get a sense of what things he's allowed to bring into it eventually. He probably could've waited until the first week had passed before bringing those up, but I don't see the point in waiting MONTHS to have a discussion about "What do we both want from this eventually? What are our long-term goals? Do we have compatible wants and needs?" Seems like that's a conversation that SHOULD come early on, along with a discussion of WHEN those next steps might come into play.)

dreameggsoaring said:
...

Please allow me to give you this trophy for "most level-headed person in a cucking comment section in the history of the universe".

dreameggsoaring said:
What gets me is how many of these comments treating being consensually cucked as if it were inherently a bad thing that isn't fair to Nick. Imagine people commenting on a spanking picture that hitting someone is physical abuse, and thus it is horrible and demeaning and awful that the dom would inflict that on the pathetic, shameful sub. Imagine seeing long diatribes about how someone is unfollowing the artist because it DISGUSTS them to see ASSAULT AND BATTERY being inflicted and how DEGRADING and and DEVALUING and MARGINALIZING that is to have someone body's VIOLATED that way. Hey, guess what, some people like to be spanked, and some people like to be cucked.

Somehow, most people seem to understand that some people like to be physically hurt, but haven't yet wrapped their head around that idea that some people [like] to be emotionally hurt (...)

I was going to make this exact point but you beat me to it! I would like to add the following:
Let's concede, for the sake of argument, that Nick is actually being abused and is not okay with this situation. Why would that matter for the art? There's plenty of art of violence being romanticized or otherwise appreciated and people may generally be cool with it, as it's not happening to them personally, it's just an idea. I don't know why people are taking this particular comic so personally. There's a lot of rape fantasy, but we still accept it as fantasy while admonishing actual rape.

Judy deceived Nick at the beginning of the comic, which a lot of haters bring up as an unsalvageable amoral element of the plot. But it's fine for Judy to be amoral. You may not like this story and its characters but it doesn't make them inherently unworthy of appreciation.

Another point brought up was when Judy cancelled their "date night" on a whim due to a text, that was labeled as abusive. I think part of what can accentuate the kink is that kind of unannouncement. That the bull can just drop in unexpected because he's in charge. Even if that may be uncommon in real life cuckolding arrangements (I have no clue), that's not important. If the fantasy you are hoping to achieve involves others forcing their will upon you in the first place, you have to forsake perfect consent and simply trust you will enjoy what happens, like a gamble. You see this a lot in mindbreak porn. Fantasy often goes beyond physical limitation. We try to approach it in real life as best we can, but there is always an ideal that we can't reach that is best given life in art, and this could be what we're seeing here.

Furthermore, there is no set way of having relationships. Notions of faithfulness and transparency are not maxims that need be applied to everyone in every relationship. You can argue that it was wrong of Judy to deceive Nick because that's "something that is always inherently wrong in any context and turnout", while you could also argue that "while it may be unfortunate she succumbed to that, it turned out that they both found a new side of themselves they want to explore to make themselves happier, which might not have happened otherwise". After all, if their lives were optimal before she forgot to go off of birth control, why would she have kept going on it? Because she was pursuing greater happiness. Fortunately Nick was okay with it. This could have been a different story that turned out worse for him, which would also be valid. There's nothing inherently wrong with either of these stories. They seem very human, in fact. If she decided the fun she had with Buck was worth risking her relationship, that's her prerrogative and there's nothing wrong with wanting that in lieu of Nick (which wasn't the case in this story anyway).

This comic isn't an instruction booklet on "how to cuckold". It's not trying to give advice or teach lessons about how you should go about fulfilling your cuckoldry in real life. All it's doing, to my understanding, is trying to approximate the juicy limits of the artist's fetish, however difficult, risky, unreasonable, or amoral it may be to accomplish in the real world to the extent in which it is depicted here.

sexygriffon said:
Please allow me to give you this trophy for "most level-headed person in a cucking comment section in the history of the universe".

Ha ha, thanks!

rva98014 said:
If you're creating a story where a kink/fetish is the primary focus and you include Nick and Judy in your story but your version of those characters have virtually nothing in common with their personality except their appearance, then... WHY BOTHER USING THOSE CHARACTERS in the first place?

I'd personally rather see what someone got out of the characters, even if it doesn't line up with my own interpretation. Using obvious stand-ins feels cheaper to me than just using the characters you were inspired by. Slapping "Original the Character" just feels like a cop-out if the artist isn't interested in actually deviating from the original source.

Also, these kinks make sense to me given what we know from the movie:

Judy was raised by parents who were intensely fearful of foxes and grew up having to deal with a fox bully who she felt the need to "police" to stop him from hurting her friends. Now she's getting to take control over the idea of "being afraid of a fox" (as Owen plays the role of the uncaring bull who's only interested in satisfying his own wants -- in this case, lust instead of hunger) and the idea of a "she needs to be vigilant to protect those she cares about" (in this case, allowing Nick to be "hurt" by "failing" to police Owen).

In Nick's childhood, he was made to feel like he was Lesser than others because of his species; he was made to feel like he didn't deserve things, and had control cruelly inflicted on him. Now he's getting to take control over the idea of being Lesser (by having a "Better" man come and take control of his sex life), of not deserving things (by having his relationship with Judy pretend-imperiled) and being controlled (by leaving the exact nature of his "mistreatment" up to Owen).

In this case, the kinks line up with harm these two characters faced in their formative years, which is one way that kinks develop. Judy gets to see the fear of foxes her parents instilled in her "fulfilled" and gets to relinquish her need to be protective in a safe way; Nick gets to see his fear of being Lesser "fulfilled" and the idea that he deserves mistreatment "fulfilled" in a safe way.

So I don't think it's fair to say that this interpretation of the characters has nothing to do with original characters. You're certainly in your right to disagree with the interpretation or dislike it or feel like the personalities don't line up even if the kinks make sense as one potential way they might respond to childhood harm. But it's not just raaaaandom in my opinion; there's a reason the artist chose these characters, and I don't see the harm in letting them explore that even if you don't see what they see.

Absolutely love it dude. Most of the people complaining just dont have this kink so i wouldnt take it too personally. As someone who enjoys this kind of stuff you really hit the mark and made a really hot comic with this kink. Keep it up!

this comment section is hilarious

zoopnigh said:
Jesus Christ this comment section is whiny. Just some scent marking play and everyone becomes a catholic nun.

It's pathetic honestly. Imagine spending your time specifically downvoting this post, and everything and everyone that supports/enjoys it. Pathetic i tell ya.

alexandermugetsu said:
Does this person not understand the use of criticism and reviewing?

Wanna go ahead and explain it to me bud? If i'm such a fool that is.

Hey to everyone that dislikes cuckold, ever heard of "Blacklisting"? Thank me later.

lynnwhite said:
Wanna go ahead and explain it to me bud? If i'm such a fool that is.

You're disavowing people's comments just because they aren't 'nice'.

lynnwhite said:
Hey to everyone that dislikes cuckold, ever heard of "Blacklisting"? Thank me later.

"Just ignore it" says the guy who can't ignore the negative comments on his cuckshit.

And straight back to being unhealthy.

"Just go for it until we tell you no" is a very toxic, dynamic-destroying thing. You can be mid-flow in the bedroom, someone says, "I'm not cool with this" and some of the sexual frisson evaporates. Alternatively, someone DOESN@T speak up, and it leads to a steadily declining dynamic, until the entire relationship implodes.

y’all know nick’s into it too. People are talking about it like nick’s some poor prisoner stuck in this relationship, but the whole point is that being cucked gets his cock hard too. I get that it’s not something most people would want (in fact it’s really the opposite of that), but fetishes be weird like that. Don’t go sounding the alarms when kinky subs wanna be treated “bad,” cause that’s the whole appeal of it for them.

sexygriffon said:
Once again, these comments are fucking hilarious.

You know you can just stop reading the comic without needing to leave a comment telling the world that you'll stop reading the comic...right?

And KelKelKun's comment having a -3 score for praising the comic is just telling how far all you e621 anti-cuckold people will go. It's just hilarious at this point seeing the comments on cuck work. Gimme the popcorn and I'll just keep watching.

See, I think the issue here is that people WANT to like this because they like the art and also have the fetish. Only problem is that the artist has said on multiple occasions that the goal of this comic is to shed light on the fetish in a mature, positive and understanding way, to legitimize and give respect to the relationship being depicted and those who share it.

However, and I say this from someone who has been cucked in every relationship since high school, that this is not a respectful way to do it. This relationship being depicted is unrealistic and harmful, not just to the characters in the story, but to the people it is supposed to be representing by showing that in almost every instance, Judy has been forcing this relationship to be this way, building it up with lies and degradation and selfishness. It paints her and the role she's supposed to represent as purely abusive and manipulative with the sole purpose being to hurt the Nick character.

I was recently in this exact position and I can tell you that it did not feel good. I did not want it to continue because all sense of love had been destroyed. My boundaries were ignored, by traumas were abused and I was supposed to just deal with it. Nick would not be just smiling here, he'd be deeply depressed and would more than likely leave if Judy refused to establish boundaries and refused any intimacy with him purely for her own amusement. The relationship depicted in this comic is almost entirely the same as the one I experienced that ended just a week ago. I think that's why people are upset. It showcases the worst way to go about these things while putting up the facade that it's being respectful. The fetish is about trust, and I feel no trust or love in this comic. I'm just in it because, well, I'm hurt, and I'm comfortable accepting my damage. I like happier stories, but this one is relatable for all the wrong reasons and I can't put it down.

alexandermugetsu said:
Does Amadose need a hug?

I feel like at this point he needs some affable human contact, just so he can take a step back.

I think he'd prefer to hug your wife in front of you and have her tell you his hugs are waaay better than yours are /j