it's a real shame that the desktop is too slow to do anything...

#RIPpowerpc

ccccool34gf said:
it's a real shame that the desktop is too slow to do anything...

So it can't get away.

Anyone know where I could get myself a deskbottoms?

alphawolf5703 said:
Anyone know where I could get myself a deskbottoms?

Buy me dinner and I'll show you. ;D

lance_armstrong said:
So it can't get away.

Modern problems require modern solutions

ccccool34gf said:
it's a real shame that the desktop is too slow to do anything...

#RIPpowerpc

Jus turn it into a sleeper. Give it some good guts and leave the outside pretty.

gunnerthelucario said:
Jus turn it into a sleeper. Give it some good guts and leave the outside pretty.

A sleeper? What's that?

ermine1227 said:
A sleeper? What's that?

In general, basically just something that looks like it'll be slow on the outside (say an old junker car or an old dusty pc case from win 98 era or something), but in reality is actually really fast with modern parts/tech.

So basically think like a very old looking desktop case with floppy drive and all, but inside it has like gtx 1080 ti, relatively fast i7 cpu, and 32 gb of ram, all running on windows 10.

ermine1227 said:
A sleeper? What's that?

Think of an old pc that looks like it can't even play something simple like, I dunno, Roblox (Is that still a thing?), and then it turns out it can run Metro 3: Redux on max graphics.

That's a sleeper.

Or, if you want to put it into car terms, A Delorian which isn't complete garbage doesn't break down every 30 mins.

it looks like that ibox image from like 2008 or something lol

This looks like a pencil sharpener I got from Japan…

we need laptop and lapbottom now

strider17 said:
Modern problems require modern solutions

More like modem problems require modem solutions

ccccool34gf said:
it's a real shame that the desktop is too slow to do anything...

#RIPpowerpc

A ~1GHz G3 (which does exist, I have an official Apple G3 laptop running at 900MHz right next to me) is perfectly usable for online tasks, and more than capable for writing, listening to music, gaming, graphics manipulation, drawing, 3D modelling, doing your finances, all the stuff that it was used for when it was shiny and new with no complaints from anyone. Even a 450MHz is good enough for most things, which I know because I'm writing this on a 450MHz 7400. I realize that a 7400 isn't a G3, but it's basically a G3 with some vector math instructions bolted on. G4s can go even faster, with official Apple hardware going up to dual 1.4GHz and third party upgrades getting up to dual 2GHz. Throw a Geforce4 Ti in there (or a Radeon 8500 if you want to use Mac OS 9) and you're good for basically anything; I have the stock ATI Rage 128 (not even the pro) with 8 megabytes of VRAM installed and it handles e621 like a champ.

gunnerthelucario said:
Jus turn it into a sleeper. Give it some good guts and leave the outside pretty.

If you're going to do that, just get a Cooler Master Q300P and leave the interesting old computer alone, maybe give it to someone who would actually appreciate it.

dngafk said:
A ~1GHz G3 is perfectly usable for online tasks.

Unfortunately web browsers and full-stack web apps are becoming heavier and heavier. give it another few years and Google Chrome will reach a full gig of disk space for just downloading it and will require more in RAM just to do your damn taxes.

bm2012 said:
Unfortunately web browsers and full-stack web apps are becoming heavier and heavier. give it another few years and Google Chrome will reach a full gig of disk space for just downloading it and will require more in RAM just to do your damn taxes.

10.4Fx, which I'm using right now to watch a YouTube video, only takes up 168 megs. Granted, that's not the slim footprint of Netscape 4, but it's a fully functional Firefox 78. If I'm honest, it's amazing how well the Power Macintosh Gx series has remained usable with time; I have a Pentium II Wintel box running 98SE from 1999 and that thing barely even knows what internet *is* and would have no chance of actually getting on it (I tried and IE5 didn't even get to the router's setup page), while the G4 (also from 1999) can browse basically any site I want, like Macrumors, Twitter, Neocities, all that. It's even internet-ready from Mac OS 9, albeit restricted to TLS 1.1; that's on OS 9, and not Classilla.

dngafk said:
10.4Fx

...which is no longer developed and will end support in October.
trust me, I wish things weren't going down this path, too. I still use my old ThinkPad X220T because I have yet to find anything to replace it. (if Framework release a ruggedized model, I will buy 100 and then pay someone to design and fabricate a full-size mechanical keyboard for it with integrated TrackPoint.)

kingofboredom said:

ermine1227 said:A sleeper? What's that?

In general, basically just something that looks like it'll be slow on the outside (say an old junker car or an old dusty pc case from win 98 era or something), but in reality is actually really fast with modern parts/tech.So basically think like a very old looking desktop case with floppy drive and all, but inside it has like gtx 1080 ti, relatively fast i7 cpu, and 32 gb of ram, all running on windows 10.

Windows 10? Booo.

ermine1227 said:

gunnerthelucario said:Jus turn it into a sleeper. Give it some good guts and leave the outside pretty.

A sleeper? What's that?

Think old car(probably from 80s) but with a new,powerful engine and other modern performance upgrades with no indication of its new performance visible on the outside. Or a tuned minivan. That's a sleeper. Think of that idea and apply it to computers. The first of the previous replies explained it nicely.

bm2012 said:
Unfortunately web browsers and full-stack web apps are becoming heavier and heavier. give it another few years and Google Chrome will reach a full gig of disk space for just downloading it and will require more in RAM just to do your damn taxes.

Easy fix for chrome:
https://e621.net/posts/2640601?q=firefox

dngafk said:
If you're going to do that, just get a Cooler Master Q300P and leave the interesting old computer alone, maybe give it to someone who would actually appreciate it.

unless you can find one with a bad motherboard.

thatgayboy said:
unless you can find one with a bad motherboard.

Can still use the good case for a good logic board.

corporate_higher_up said:
it's a real shame that the desktop is too slow to do anything...

#RIPpowerpc

they're pretty fun to play around with for old games lol, i got a ton of old puzzle games on mine, along with a ps1 emulator and some other games

alphawolf5703 said:
Anyone know where I could get myself a deskbottoms?

That's simply your local IT person

gunnerthelucario said:
Jus turn it into a sleeper. Give it some good guts and leave the outside pretty.

Probably more effort than it's worth. Apple used a lot of non-standard formfactor stuff in their machines.

I own a (somewhat gutted) B&W G3 and a QS G4, so I can tell you from experience that the first issue you're going to run into is the need for custom cabling, at least if you want it to open right. Apple ran all their cables from the sides of the board and along the bottom to reach the devices in the upper part of the chassis. It's a great design, super clean, and it's why the thing can open up the way it does, but it doesn't play well with other mobos.

You'll also need a different PSU than the one the G3/G4 comes with, as Apple used PSUs with something different than the standard ATX pinout. I don't know what would actually fit and mount properly, as I don't believe the PSU is a standard shape, either.

I'd suggest instead turning it into a MorphOS box, but finding a good graphics card for that setup is near impossible.