vixavil hayden created by feretta
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"I dunno, snuggles, that thing is really messed up, are you sure it's worth fixing?"
"You should'a seen the old one before I straightened it. Don't worry, I got this!"

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  • Ok, as a furry, this is great. As a mechanic and a gear head, I really want to ask artists to do more research. That is not a how a supercharger works.

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  • captain_obvious88 said:
    Ok, as a furry, this is great. As a mechanic and a gear head, I really want to ask artists to do more research. That is not a how a supercharger works.

    It's meant to look like a semi-futuristic replacement engine.

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  • feretta said:
    It's meant to look like a semi-futuristic replacement engine.

    I'm not shitting on your artwork or your design; this is porn after all. Just looking to educate. All a supercharger is is a belt-driven air pump that sucks air from the outside and forces it into a manifold system between the "V" of the engine. You need an intake scoop to suck fresh air, while two interlocked helix screws on the inside forces the air between them to compress it, then it is forced into the combustion chambers. The denser the air, the stronger the engine fires. The futuristic version of this is a turbocharger, which is an exhaust-driven turbine.

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  • captain_obvious88 said:
    I'm not shitting on your artwork or your design; this is porn after all. Just looking to educate. All a supercharger is is a belt-driven air pump that sucks air from the outside and forces it into a manifold system between the "V" of the engine. You need an intake scoop to suck fresh air, while two interlocked helix screws on the inside forces the air between them to compress it, then it is forced into the combustion chambers. The denser the air, the stronger the engine fires. The futuristic version of this is a turbocharger, which is an exhaust-driven turbine.

    If you're going to be pedantic you need to be accurate, lest you invite the identical criticism you're giving out. Gotta watch those tautologies. Kinda left yourself open there.

    Buckle up.

    • While automotive superchargers are commonly belt-driven, there are many other drive methods. Electrically-driven, hydraulically-driven, chain-driven and gear-driven superchargers are also widely used. There are even superchargers attached directly to the driveshaft, with no transfer mechanism at all.
    • Superchargers do not need to be within the "V", especially if there isn't a "V" layout at all (i.e. inline motors). Easily-researched example would be the BMW Mini. Anywhere within the intake system will do, though a "V" motor does have a mighty convenient place to put the compressor IF you're using a twin-helix compressor.
    • The screw-system is by no means the only compressor style. Centrifugal pumps are, if anything, more common than the twin-helix design, especially in automotive use, as they can be relocated from the top of the motor to a more convenient place in the engine bay, and are significantly less expensive to manufacture.

    Here's an educational video for increased "actually"! https://youtu.be/oHEulOcU7jY
    Here's an educational webpage for increased "actually"! https://www.fastfordmag.co.uk/fastford-features/fastford-tech/superchargers-explained/

    Reminder: artist research time is on-the clock time. If high technical accuracy is a requirement of the commissioner, that time isn't free. It's hours of the work-day that could be spent actually drawing, so for people who create art for a living it's billable hours. This is the main reason why aviation art and hot-rod art are so expensive: the buyers demand extreme technical accuracy, and more time goes into research than into the actual act of drawing.

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  • weaselsmasher said:
    If you're going to be pedantic you need to be accurate, lest you invite the identical criticism you're giving out. Gotta watch those tautologies. Kinda left yourself open there.

    Buckle up.

    • While automotive superchargers are commonly belt-driven, there are many other drive methods. Electrically-driven, hydraulically-driven, chain-driven and gear-driven superchargers are also widely used. There are even superchargers attached directly to the driveshaft, with no transfer mechanism at all.
    • Superchargers do not need to be within the "V", especially if there isn't a "V" layout at all (i.e. inline motors). Easily-researched example would be the BMW Mini. Anywhere within the intake system will do, though a "V" motor does have a mighty convenient place to put the compressor IF you're using a twin-helix compressor.
    • The screw-system is by no means the only compressor style. Centrifugal pumps are, if anything, more common than the twin-helix design, especially in automotive use, as they can be relocated from the top of the motor to a more convenient place in the engine bay, and are significantly less expensive to manufacture.

    Here's an educational video for increased "actually"! https://youtu.be/oHEulOcU7jY
    Here's an educational webpage for increased "actually"! https://www.fastfordmag.co.uk/fastford-features/fastford-tech/superchargers-explained/

    Reminder: artist research time is on-the clock time. If high technical accuracy is a requirement of the commissioner, that time isn't free. It's hours of the work-day that could be spent actually drawing, so for people who create art for a living it's billable hours. This is the main reason why aviation art and hot-rod art are so expensive: the buyers demand extreme technical accuracy, and more time goes into research than into the actual act of drawing.

    I was only describing the twin scew system displayed. I own a roots style, I work on twin screws, and I'm very familiar with centrifugal. I also own and work on two turbocharged vehicles. I see cars every day. Did I come here to look at cars? No, I didn't. Do I ever shit on Feretta's artwork? No, I don't. Excuse me if I decided to give one of my favorite artists a little bit of information. I didn't know that was wrong.

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  • captain_obvious88 said:
    I was only describing the twin scew system displayed. I own a roots style, I work on twin screws, and I'm very familiar with centrifugal. I also own and work on two turbocharged vehicles. I see cars every day. Did I come here to look at cars? No, I didn't. Do I ever shit on Feretta's artwork? No, I don't. Excuse me if I decided to give one of my favorite artists a little bit of information. I didn't know that was wrong.

    I think the negative response is more because of a perceived assumption that I somehow don't know what I'm doing. Either way, don't worry about it, it's just a drawing :p I didn't feel like digging up an engine reference, so I just made something up, seeing as how it's an entirely unimportant thing. I certainly could pull up a reference if I felt like it, but again, very unimportant detail in the grand scheme of things.

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  • feretta said:
    I think the negative response is more because of a perceived assumption that I somehow don't know what I'm doing. Either way, don't worry about it, it's just a drawing :p I didn't feel like digging up an engine reference, so I just made something up, seeing as how it's an entirely unimportant thing. I certainly could pull up a reference if I felt like it, but again, very unimportant detail in the grand scheme of things.

    I apologize if I seemed rude

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  • That's a nice '69 Chevelle she has there, judging by the front-end.
    Given that it still has drumbrakes upfront, whatever she's done to the engine (there was no V6) is probably an upgrade - I'd guess the V8 should mostly have the optional disk-brakes already and the i6 isn't much of a loss. She may want to upgrade that part too, though.

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  • fuzzygears said:
    That's a nice '69 Chevelle she has there, judging by the front-end.
    Given that it still has drumbrakes upfront, whatever she's done to the engine (there was no V6) is probably an upgrade - I'd guess the V8 should mostly have the optional disk-brakes already and the i6 isn't much of a loss. She may want to upgrade that part too, though.

    It's an El Camino. The image is slightly cropped for space.

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  • I have no fucking idea what the hell these car people are talking about, but it sounds cool.

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