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Phenoix12
MemberIt's porn. No one really cares.
VibrantLordiction
Member"Canonically" nobody goddamn cares.
user 494863
MemberHe also canonically doesn't fuck the dinosaur maybe suspend your disbelief some
Pic Saver 6000
Membermanly man hips
syuni
Member“i know it’s porn and no one cares, you should care!!”
its porn jackass, you have better things to cry over
kcrtp
Membershe does tho :P
chapter 2 confirmed it
DonnyBrook
MemberOk, I'm just going to ask.
Is there ANYTHING to indicate Kris is non-binary in any OFFICIAL capacity beyond use of the word 'they'?
Because I have always taken that to just be a way to let the player sort of decide for themselves what Kris's gender is.
You know... like they did with Chara? And Frisk?
Duplicate Scound
Memberif you give her the jevilstail, she makes a comment about how she thought she would grow one at some point. aka, she does not have a tail
FluffyDoodle
Memberwell, other characters in undertale, like monster kid and napastablook, have "they" used for them, even in offical art books i believe, so I think that shows "they" has never been solely used for characters one projects on to, and kris is supposed to be separate from the player, thats an important theme of the game. with kris ripping out the heart to be free from the player.
DonnyBrook
Member...So there is nothing basically?
FluffyDoodle
Memberperhaps, but where would it even be explicitly said, there isn't like a deltarune art book cause the game is still being made, toby also used they in interviews if thats anything, also excuse me if I came off as rude at all, that was not my intention
DonnyBrook
MemberIt's fine, and I also don't want to come off as rude or facetious, but I just get a little frustrated with people preaching this like it's the gospel truth when it is, in fact, extremely ambiguous.
I have no doubt that Kris is officially referred to as 'they'. What I do doubt is the idea that they are explicitly non-binary, as opposed to having an undisclosed or ambiguous gender.
As far as I'm concerned, Kris is whatever the player wants them to be, be that male, female, non-binary, transgendered, and so on. If it's ever stated in an official capacity that they are non-binary, then I'll be the first one to eat crow.
BlakeBelladonnAss
MemberIn the scene with Susie and Noelle on the ferris wheel, it is revealed that Susie does have a tail, but she is embarrassed by it and hides it while telling/threatening people she doesn't have one.
So clearly that jevilstail comment is her lying about growing a tail, as she is hiding the fact she already has a tail.
PolyPolyglot
MemberNo
Ragnars rock
MemberPolitic in my porn comment section?
Classic e621.
rustymetalpipe
Memberdude chill just fap to the picture or go to a different one it's not that deep or complex
TheUltraMagnus
MemberThe irony of people complaining about this not being "nonbinary" Kris is that it's inherently sexist to assume that someone who's nb can't have a dick. They're trying so hard to spread nb awareness that they played themselves.
One of the reasons why e621 doesn't have a "nonbinary" or "trans" tags is because there's no way to look at a character and be like "yeah that's trans". The "male/female/gynomorph/etc." Tag assumptions are purely for the sake of categorizing what people want to see in porn, and to follow the "tag what you see" rule.
Sure, Kris might be NB canonically, or maybe nb to the artist, but we have to put male tags because of the "tag what you see" rule.
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Hellpad
MemberAlso I'm pretty shure it's the choice of the player
ExTerMINater267
MemberThis comment section is the epiphany of why the whole "use the correct pronouns" is bullshit. Language matters. If you cant describe something without fear of being "non inclusive" you are incapable of communicating with people.
You do you. I'll do me. And if consenting lets do each other. Cause why not. Its the internet. And this is porn.
Instead of crying take off your pants and whack off and flick whatever non-existing genitalia you may or may not have.
The Cunning Linguist
MemberThank you and ExTerMINater267, it's good to know not everybody's brain has been turned to gender-based mush
doinmyresearch
Memberit just hasn't been specified, nobody has said it specifically
Oatmeal2
Memberthis, genitals =/= gender dudes and dudettes
adogisfinetoo
Membergod i hate it here
BaconSenpai
MemberLive in the image zone, be willfully ignorant of the comment zone
random transgirl
MemberIgnorance is bliss
DoomGuy69
BlockedYou are correct, thats why Kris and Frisk are “nb” in game.
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